Ugliness

by Travis G on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT in Game Recap

I didn't get to see most of today's game, but the box score sure is ugly. The Yanks again were pitiful with RISP, going just 3-17.

Final - 4.25.2009	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
New York Yankees	2	0	2	2	0	2	2	1	0	11	15	1
Boston Red Sox	0	0	0	5	3	1	3	4	X	16	13	1
WP: Hideki Okajima (1 - 0) LP: Jonathan Albaladejo (1 - 1)

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It now comes down to Pettitte - yet again - to stop a losing streak.

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I know it's only been 3 weeks.....

but his team is utterly pathetic! No clutch hitting and the pitching is the worst in baseball! I guess $200 mill doesn’t buy what it used too!

by nyc21 on Apr 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions

our pitching will be fine

CC will be lighting it up in the summer
Pettite is already hitting on all cylinders
Burnett is going to have a bad outing once in a while(but against the team that we paid him 80 mil to perform against? come onnnnnnnn)
Joba is still learning
and Wang…needs stronger hips i guess
idk im getting worried too but we get the best player in the AL back in like a week or two so we can only go up

by Brian5517209 on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions

they’re not that bad but they have to do better with RISP.

by Shaffi3 on Apr 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions

I don't know. It seems to me like the

crappy pitching had more to do with this loss. When a team scores 11 runs in a game and loses, RISP doesn’t tend to jump out at me as the problem.

by garp on Apr 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions

embarrassing

This team’s performance over the last two games has been nothing short of disgraceful. They can’t stop blinking in the clutch, or letting the other team come through. For a team that did so much to re-tool its pitching staff to give up 15, 22, and 16 runs over the last two weeks is a disgrace. I don’t think I’m prone to over-reaction, and I’d never want to blow a 3-game series in April out of proportion, but the clock started on Girardi for me today. If he can’t get them to perform better, it’s time to see if someone else can.

by long time listener on Apr 25, 2009 10:13 PM EDT reply actions

Fired

Someone is going to get fired really soon unless something changes with the pitching, it is awful!! Im totally embarassed to be a Yankee fan right now, especially on Saturdays!

by pedro316 on Apr 25, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions

sad

thats two blown games in a row now. its time to go with joba (so he can actually use that 98mlp heater), melancon and rivera for 8th and 9th innings. veras and marte are brutal. hughes or kennedy can be the 5th man……

by NF_nyy on Apr 25, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions

Yeah...because Hughes and Kennedy in the rotation

worked out so well last season.

by garp on Apr 26, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions

they're another year wiser

and besides with Wang on the DL we’ll be seeing one of them anyways starting in Detroit

by Brian5517209 on Apr 26, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions

Right. All the more reason to keep Joba

in the rotation.

by garp on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions

it's time for Joe to go...

I think It’s time for Joe Girardi to go. He is consistently making wrong moves. Posada doesn’t know how to call pitching. I understand he catched for 30 years but he is not getting it right now. It seems like every move Girardi makes, deosn’t make sense as a Baseball perspective. Why did he let wang pitch 3 games? You can tell on his 1st outing that there is a major problem. Yankees can’t afford to lose games in AL EAST. Anyways, it will be 2 years in a row, yanks won’t play in Oct. Just too many holes. Needs a new GM and the manager.

by yankslocktowin on Apr 25, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions

relax bro

it’s April
we should be thankful that we actually have a plus .500 record in April considering there is no A-Rod
we do this every year
we play average to the all star break and smoke crack and take Ritalin afterwards to explode into the playoffs(except for last year, too many injuries)
now whether we will be effective in the playoffs this year is a totally different stories

by Brian5517209 on Apr 25, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions

dude...

playing decent before all star and then turn it up ain’t gonna work this year in this tough division. Blue Jays are hitting like crazy, rays aren’t going away. I think this year that formula won’t work.
Couple of things, Joe should be next week, 1) He should name Jose an everyday catcher. I think Posada has lost the swagger of catching. Yesterday, they were so many pitching burnett throwing down and posada wasn’t even trying to show his glove to the umpire, it;s like he knows umpire won’t care and throws ball back to AJ. such a fat ass.
2) If Hughes pitches great, which I think he will, He should stay in the rotation and then they should try Kennedy. I think both these guys have figured it out. And put Joba back in the bullpen. Joba couldn’t get a K vs. soxs. That game could have been 10-2 if soxs didn’t break bats and hit double plays. I know its double plays are part of the game but teams dnt hit 5 double plays that often and Joba is consistently giving up too many hits because he can’t get anything going but fast ball. His slider stays on the plat. Curve in the dirt.

by yankslocktowin on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions

Your Joba logic is badly flawed...

The objective of any starting pitcher, in those 2 on 1 out, or bases loaded 1 out situations is to find the RIGHT pitch to get out of the inning without further damage (or limiting the damage).

“That game could have been 10-2 if soxs didn’t break bats and hit double plays.”

But they did, which means Joba found the right pitches to frustrate the hitters and induce DP ground balls AND his defense didn’t let him down.

“Joba couldn’t get a K vs. soxs. "

Strikeouts are nice, they are a terrific stat and very exciting for the fans…but they also ramp up a pitchers count throughout the game, and right now, Joba needs INNINGS, not PITCHES. More innings with fewer pitches means less bullpen exposure — and Joba, unlike Wang, has kept the Yankees in every game he’s pitched. Every single one.

Your comments are typical of someone who has little patience to allow a twentysomething year old pitcher to develop. Joba has 4 Plus pitches — give him a goddamn season to learn to develop them and use them in different situations.

And finally — relievers are a freakin’ dime a dozen. Starting pitchers are NOT. If you’ve got a chance to take 1-2 seasons to develop and teach a kid like Joba to be a 7-8 inning pitcher, you do it. You don’t freak out and stick him in the pen just because he didn’t “k” “x” number of hitters in a game.

And, that game could have been (and should have been) a NY blowout — RISP, I’m gonna keep saying it, is the stat that most hurts the Yankees right now. They are underwhelming in that category just like last year.

by detroit yankee on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

In few weeks

I will get back to you in a month with more. In a month, you will see what I am talking about with Joba.
for now, You are so OFF with what pitching is about. “Ks” ramp up pitchers count??? where did you see that? who told you that? Thats is unbelievably opposite to what reality is.
You think putting 2 men on or loading up bases take less pitches. LMAO. This guy can’t hit the corners and hard throwers have to have command. Look at AJ, Backett, JJ, Santana. I am not saying he ain’t got stuff and I understand the fact that young pitchers need time and blah blah… but, there is a place to learn all that and that’s minor league.
In this division, we can’t have a starter who is there to learn not to win. I would rather have Washburn than Joba is if Joba doesn’t have command and can’t hit corners. I don’t know if you watched the game other day but he got so lucky with some of the pitches he left in the middle.
RISP has been the issue for 3 years. Manny would have solved it if we had got him. Until A-bom comes back, we have got to appreciate whatever offense can do.
One more time, Posada needs to be more involved in calling pitches and executing the catcher position. He seems lost and not interested while catching. No excitement of close pitches, no reaction to bad calls by umpire. I like Jose as catcher and DH posada and godzilla.

by yankslocktowin on Apr 26, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions

The bullpen isn't effective

because the starters can’t give them enough innings. These guys need to make it past the fifth, IMO that is a major reason the bullpen is carrying a combined ERA of 7.08. With that being said, it’s time for Joe to give the new arms a chance. Looking forward to seeing Melancon.

Even though it’s a cliched excuse to toss around, the umpiring last night was simply unacceptable.

I think I’d rather have my local PBS affiliate broadcast the game then to suffer through another game on FOX.

by FrankDiscussion on Apr 26, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions

Really?

You guys have the most talent of any team in baseball, the best hitter in the AL returning in a few weeks, and your aces under performing. And you’re still not doing terrible. You’re panicking; even I know that you guys are gonna be playing in October, one way or another.

by Charger567 on Apr 26, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions

Natural

emotionally to panic but there is no need:
a)It is early in the season. Despite key injury (ARod,Bruney, the issues with Wang) the Yanks are over 500.
b)They have started slowly each of the last few seasons. Newly acquired players are slow starters (Teix, CC).
c)Most importantly, look at the Rays record. Ask yourself what they would have to do from this point out to win, say, 92 games. They would have to go 85/59=0.590 baseball (equiv to 96 wins over the season). Last year, by Pythagorean WL they were a 92 win team. That, coupled with the weakness in the central and west is enough to convince me that the Yankees have a very large likelihood of making the playoffs.

The biggest issue is pitching health. Since Wang was sort of a given, and AJ and Joba were the innings/health concerns, Wang’s issues would be troubling. On the other hand, it is early, there is some depth (Aceves, Hughes) and as I said above, despite the early worries, things actually should be viewed in the positive light of the surrounding facts and the realization that this is a long season of ups and downs.

by Buzzy on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions

No need to panic

Yesterday’s game was beyond ugly. There was never a point where I thought the Red Sox would stop scoring, and they did not. We got the Sox at a bad time. We’ll be OK. When you’re playing the way Boston is now everything goes right and the momentum becomes THE factor. There hitting is not going to maintain this clip and our pitching will pick up. Bay and Youkilis must be on the juice, cause it’s IMPOSSIBLE to get them out. The pithcers have to pitch inside more often. Not to hit the guy, but to make him less comfortable and to move him off the plate a little. The Sox players are swinging from there asses. The way Youkilis hogs the plate and leans over it, he should NEVER complain about getting hit with a pitch or brushed back. If he’s man enough to hit with that stance, so as to be able to get to the outside pitches and drive them, then he ought to know that he’s gonna get hit. Note to Yankees pitchers; pitch him inside even if you hit him the f……in head. Who the f…..k does he think he is? Yesterday’s RISP struggles were relevant to the loss even with the 11 runs scored. I’m not sure I would have pinch-hit Cabrera for Berroa. In spite of Melky’s heroics on Wednesday he is NOT a good hitter with RISP because he’s jumpy and not selective. Cano seems to have made the adjustment and Cabrera has too also. There’s nothing wrong with a deep count. He gets himself out, just like he did against Springer Wednesday versus Oakland.

by chambliss76 on Apr 26, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions