Resurrection of Melky-mania?
Before we go touring the Inter-Google to find out what is being written around the Yankees Universe this morning, I have a question.
Has Melky Cabrera, fresh off his two home run performance Wednesday, earned more playing time in center field? He is certainly making the most of the opportunities he has been given thus far. Even with the fact that he struck out three times Wednesday.
In 23 at-bats so far, Melky has a .304 average with four homers and 7 RBI. His OBP is .385 and he is slugging a lofty .826.
Brett Gardner is hitting .240 in 50 at-bats, with a paltry .283 OBP and a .300 slugging percentage.
I love Gardner's game. He has terrific range in center field, and when he gets on base he is obviously trouble for the opposition. He can do a lot of things to help the Yankees.
My guess, though, is that center field will be a constant juggling act for Yankee manager Joe Girardi. Right now it looks like Melky might just be the hot hand. Maybe it's time to ride him until he cools off.
Now let's look around the Yankee Universe at some other stories making headlines.
- There was another 'Maier Moment' at the new Yankee Stadium Wednesday. The New York Times says, however, that there are no plans to push fans away from the walls, especially since they are paying $150 a pop to sit there.
- If you aren't reading Kim Jones' blog, 'Keeping Up with the Jones,' you should be. She is pretty hilarious, and offers lots of behind-the-scenes stuff that gives you a glimpse of life around the Yankees.
- A-Rod is running! A-Rod is running! MLB.com has the latest on the 'Alex Rodgriguez recovery from surgery' saga. Geesh! TMI. Just tell me when he's ready to play.
- It's never too early to talk free agents when it comes to the Yankees. That said, apparently Oakland slugger Matt Holliday, who will likely be the big prize among hitters next winter, says he would play in New York. Umm ... gee, all that proves at this point is that Holliday isn't stupid. Why would he say he wouldn't play in New York, thus limiting his potential payday?
- There might be hordes of empty seats at the new homes of both the Yankees and the Mets, but Forbes says New York's teams are still easily the most valuable franchises in baseball.
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I want a sample size of at least 150 ABs before making any judgement.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Apr 23, 2009 6:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear you
The sample size is way too small to make a real judgment. I’m just wondering if, since Melky seems to be swinging well right now, you play the hot hand a little. The other theory, of course, is that Girardi chose Gardner and it’s too early to start jerking him around. I understand the choice either way.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 23, 2009 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gardner stays put
Girardi committed him to play CF so it should at least be until mid-May to make any assessment. It’s more comforting to know that Melky can come off the bench to pinch hit for Ransom in important late innings situations. Big YAY for signing Matt Holiday! When was the last time we had a complete OF with guys age 30 and under?
by BigSlim on Apr 23, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MELKY PLAYS MATSUI SITS
There are many solutions to this outfield conundrum. One that I support but hate to suggest because I’m often too loyal is Matsui riding the bench. He has been a great Yankee but hasn’t ever been a great fielder and right now isn’t a great hitter. He’s getting old and I’m starting to convince myself that he may not be able to recover from last year’s injury. He can still hit the ball a long ways and would be valuable off the bench giving the Yankees a key bat off the pine. With his knee acting up again he may just be a better tool for the Yankees off the bench.
http://yankees.gearupforsports.com/blog/2009/04/music-stops-on-yankee-outfields-musical-chairs/
by gpwestphal on Apr 24, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ehh
200 PA so far in the major isn’ t huge, but it’s still enough where a guy needs to not hit like a freaking pitcher.
by RollingWave on Apr 23, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not LF?
Why not put Melky in LF and replace a noodle arm defensively. Matsui isn’t hitting well enough to warrant a full time slot in the line up. Put Damon at DH and drop Melky in LF, easy.
by GullySully77 on Apr 23, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad idea
I think Melky is showing, if nothing else, that he has a lot of value to this team as the 4th outfielder playing in all three slots. That’s especially true w/Nady hurt and Matsui unable to play the outfield.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 23, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I like Melky in kind of a roving role— he certainly has the arm to play the corner spots, and he’s good in CF too. Gardner on the other hand, I don’t really want to see anywhere else but center. So get Melky in CF against lefties when you’re sitting Gardner, and get him in left or right to to spell the other guys a few times a week. That’s how I would use him.
And in agreement with jscape- we need to see more. If I remember correctly, Melky came on like gangbusters last year- hitting something like 7 homers in short order- before falling off the face of the Yankees Universe.
by NumberSeven on Apr 23, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was-
5 HR’s in April, 6 by May 4- slugging .505 at that point.
He finished with 8 and slugging .341
per Baseball Reference.
by NumberSeven on Apr 23, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Melky can play both corners. He’s a decent center fielder, but I think Gardner gets to more balls. Melky’s arm makes him better in the corners. Damon will need time off, so will Swisher. And Gardner won’t play against some lefties. So, plenty of ABs for Melky in this role.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 23, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
as of today, Matsui is 244/.392/.463 . that is pretty darn good .
by RollingWave on Apr 23, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At his current pace
IF he can be healthy enough to stay in the lineup, Matsui is projected for 25HR and 100+BB. Not to shabby for a guy that’s been written off.
by BigSlim on Apr 23, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great idea, Gully
Melky can field and throw much better than Damon. (He might not even overrun easy popups.) I think he’d be great in LF.
by cph on Apr 23, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that it's a plus for the team
because it isn’t, but at least Nady’s injury gives Girardi some latitude to give both Gardner and Melky a lot of playing time through the end of May. We should know by then if Cabrera’s hot start is for real this time, or if he’s destined to always be regarded as Mr. April.
by django48 on Apr 23, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What we all forget
What people forget is that Melky is actually a year younger than Gardner becuase he has been in the league for a few years. I know Gardner’s speed is a plus but Melky is not much slower. Another thing is people rave about Gardner defence Melky is as good a center fielder and he has a better arm. I think Melky in left would be great but if Girardi won’t do that put him in center.
by cspencer22 on Apr 23, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point about Apr/May
I remember Melky starting off fast last year – 5 HRs and 12 RBIs in Apr-08. But then he slowed down, including a .115 BA in Aug.. I think keeping Melky out of the normal starting position is giving him the kick in the pants he needs (he seems to lack Cano’s desire to improve himself). Gardner seems streaky right now, so this may be a good thing.
Remember last year that Melky was suprised to be sent down. But he then hit .462 when he came back up (albeit only 13 ABs), so seems like he needs to be pushed. In fact, in the one game I went to last year, Melky commited an error against the Twins because he was turning around to wave at the bleachers during roll call in the first inning. So he needs some focus. I think if Melky was REALLY motivated, he’d be a really good player.
by coops2001 on Apr 23, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THis is nothing new for Melky
Didn’t he hit about 7 HR in the early months in 2007, but only end up with 8?
I say use him the way they are. Keep everybody fresh out there. If someone is slumping, play somone else. I usually don’t like platoons, but between Swisher, Damon, Gardner and Melky, they all should get some playing time cuz really no one is a standout.
But for Melky right now, Id just leave him in the lineup and see what he does. Kinda like Swisher, let him hit until he gets cold. Melky seems to do better when Cano is doing well.
I’d love for Melky to take back the CF position tho. I think he’s got Gardner’s range but also a cannon arm.
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 23, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes and
his epic suck last year was still better than what Gardner is giving right now.
For Gardner to be succesful, he needs to translate his walk rate into the majors, something he hasn’t been close to repeating and showing little signs of making progress
by RollingWave on Apr 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walks
Until Gardner starts to show pitchers he can hurt them they will just throw the ball down the middle and he won’t draw many walks.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
and if he doesn’t walk , he won’t get on base enough to justify any play time . he’s not going to hit for power (and I don’t mean Melkish no power, I mean litterally 0 HR a year no power) he’s not even going to hit for average (he whiffs a lot for a light power guy) , the only chance he has to be a useful player in the major is if he walks 10-15% of the time or more so he actually have a reasonable chance of making use of his speed.
He seem to be confirming what the doubters have doubted all along, that his combination of extremely light power, fairly high Ks and BBs in the minor won’t work in the major, because no one is going to nimble against a light hitter , while he’s not enough of a slap hitter to get on base via lots singles Ichiro style either.
Melky isn’t great, but he does have a few things on his side, for one, he’s pretty solid contact guy, he only whiffs around 13%. he did show at least some patience during 06, and at least some brieft burst of power. he also have age on his side still .
by RollingWave on Apr 24, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about you guys but
as I was taking a glance through the pictures in this post, I was a little disturbed/taken aback at how empty they make Yankee Stadium look.
Pride, Power, Pinstripes...Go Yankees!
by acman319 on Apr 23, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear you on that
Yesterday was understandable. Mid-week day game in the rain and all. But the empty premium seats are tough to take.
by Ed Valentine on Apr 23, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed a sad sight
Have yet to go to YS but was at Citifield (yikes) to personally witness this. Field level fans were doing the wave all game long and it would always die right when it reached the premium seats.
by BigSlim on Apr 23, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am a flip-flopper
Frankly, Brett Gardner is making me miss Melky.
I advocated putting Gardner in CF because he was supposed to play excellent defense and pose a serious threat on the basepaths. But Gardner’s only stolen 4 bases and is -1 FRAA so far in CF. Oh, and he’s sporting a.283 OBP.
It’s a small sample, but it’s poor no matter how you spin it. His career numbers aren’t that much better.
Melky is no superstar, but he’s posted a .711 OPS over 1,600 plate apperances; at least we know what we’re getting.
by 3460kuri on Apr 23, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not going to help build confidence
for these two relatively young players to constantly have to look over their shoulders and not know if they still have the starting job tomorrow. They both know their roles right now. And we’re 9-6 currently so it’s not exactly the apocalypse.
by BigSlim on Apr 23, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is...
the Yanks are counting on these guys just being a placeholder for AJax. Between the the two of them, they should be fine this year- and hopefully AJax is ready for the start of next year.
by NumberSeven on Apr 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AJax
I’m not counting on him being a star, either. What level of the minor leagues has he dominated?
by Ed Valentine on Apr 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With you on this
AJax still lacks plate discipline and there’s no telling how well he’ll perform in his first stint at AAA this year.
by BigSlim on Apr 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we'll see..
i don’t think he NEEDS to be a star per se… there are still lots of people in the Yanks org that are high on the guy… but yes- we will need to see how he does at AAA..
by NumberSeven on Apr 23, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Fans' are already getting on Gardner
b/c he’s not performing up to expectations – as evident here. He was universally hyped at the time of his promotion last year. If AJax somehow lands the starting CF job next year and follows the same Gardner early-season path, which CF messiah do we turn to?
by BigSlim on Apr 23, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the difference is
many were questioning Gardner due to some obvious problems, like you know, how a player of this type have never succeeded in the majors befoer (low power, big speed guys have , but they’re all high contact guys and the really successful onces are usually walk a ton, Gardner will never have high contact so his success completely hinges on his ability to walk.. A LOT. somehting he hasn’t come anywhere close to doing.
Ajax’s issue is also contact. but he does have at least moderate power . so his whiff rate is at least accepatable. his abosalute upside might be something along the lines of either Mike Cameron or Curtis Granderson. but even somethign around 70% of that is pretty decent
by RollingWave on Apr 24, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still gotta be Gardner
despite Melky’s 2 HRs, people have already forgotten how he K’ed in the 7th with the bases full.
Gardner’s in a bit of a slump, but he’ll come out of it soon.
by Travis G on Apr 23, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
slump?
he hit .582 OPS last year over 150 PA and .583 over 50 PA this year. it’s a mighty damn long slump to be this consistent. considering that 200 PA = 1/3 of a full season. he’s had a one month stretch where he looked like a MLB player. if we use that standard, Melky had a few one month stretch where he looked like a super star.
Gardner still might be a better player than what we’ve seen from Cabrera, but Cabrera might be too, I’m not really harping on Melky as much as I’m down on Gardner, I think in the end, it is at least a good idea to play the hot hand, and right now, the hot hand is obviously not Gardner
by RollingWave on Apr 24, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gardner needs time to adjust
that’s his MO. it takes him usually half a season to adjust, then he goes off (relatively speaking).
Melky’s had 1600 ML PAs. Gardner has 200. We have to at least give Gardner half a year to see what he is.
by Travis G on Apr 24, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
adjustments?
let’s just review the fundemental problem here. Gardner is a player that’s unlikely to hit for any power, we’re not talking about Melky like light power, we’re talking about Juan Pierre like no power. if that’s the case. his value is completely tied up to his speed, which is tied up to him actually getting on base.
there are two ways to get on obviously. hitting and walking. for a guy who won’t hit for power. his average is going to be tied up to how much contact he makes, if he puts enough in play he might beat out enough to have a high average. but the problem is he’s striking out like a slugger . he whiffs 20% of the time (for comparason, Jorge Posada whiffs around 23% for his career), and that is perfectly in line with his minor league track record. most sucessful speedstars with no power (say. Pierre and Butler) whiffs at most 10% , Pierre actually only whiffs a ridiculas 7% of the time.
That’s the problem, almost all the remotely decent light hitters in the past were some of the greatest contact hitters. Gardner actually whiff significantly MORE than average. and there’s no reason to believe he’s going to change that. there have been plenty of cases where such type of hitters walked enough in the minors but didn’t walk at all in the majors . the reasons are obvious.
To be a competent hitter. you need to at least hit for average or hit for power. one or the other. walks are very important but the reason you walk have plenty to do with being able to actually do something with the pitches in the zone. and there is simply very little in the present and past to suggest that Brett will be able ot either hit for any average or any power. at this point he’s probably a .260 average .350 slg guy AT BEST. just think for a sec on what OBP you need to make that sort of average / slg viable. ? somewhere close to .380-.400 at least. is there any reason to believe that he can put up a OBP like that when he can’t make consistent contact nor hit for any power?
I’m not nearly as high on Cabrera as I was before, but by the same standards. he is a guy who’s always made good contact. a 13% K rate for his career is solid. and he’s not completely without power. something that you can at least hope to improve a bit when he reaches his prime years. (say maybe a 13-15 HR guy) so you have a guy who’s significantly above average in contact. and have at least accepatable power for a up the middle position player. in this case then. you can expect that he MIGHT be able to get a decent OBP, at least his contact suggest that he should be a fairly good average hitter. and he will take one out if you just leave it in there. so the only thing between him and a good OBP is his own plate dicipline. something that he has at least shown signs of understanding in the past . none of thatis surely going to happen. but it’s a hell lot more likely than Gardner managing a .260 / .380 / .350 season.
by RollingWave on Apr 29, 2009 4:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gardner's 'tude
I saw Gardner in the minors. On a routine single up the middle, he fielded the ball and lobbed it into the second baseman. The ball bounced four times before it got to him. You should have seen the look the second baseman gave him. This was shortly after being sent down after a stint with the Yanks. It seemed he thought he was hot stuff and too good to play hard in the minors………watch out…….if he’s complacent, he may be a cancer. Let’s hope he’s not. I still like Melky’s arm in center.
SGA
by sga on Apr 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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