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What we have learned about the Yankees so far

Monday night's rainout provides us with a perfect opportunity to assess our New York Yankees through the first 13 games. So, here are some thoughts on what we have seen thus far -- keeping in mind that there are 149 games to play and much can, and will, change.

  • A 7-6 start is not great, but it's not horrible either. You don't generally win the pennant in the season's first 30 games, but you can bury yourself and make reaching the playoffs virtually impossible. The Yankees haven't done that. Look at it this way. Boston is also 7-6. Tampa Bay is 5-8. The only team ahead of the Yanks in the AL East is Toronto at 10-4, and I think we can forget about them beng a contender. So, the Yanks are fine.
  • I almost hate to say it, but this Yankee offense will desperately need Alex Rodriguez to hit like, well, Alex Rodriguez, once he gets back in the lineup. Cody Ransom and Ramiro Pena are a combined 8-for-51 (.157) with 5 RBI. I can do without the A-Rod freak show, but over the long haul the Yankees won't win without his bat.
  • Even with A-Rod, the Yankees might be a bat short. Have you checked the bottom third of the Yankee lineup some days. We are looking at Brett Gardner, Ransom/Pena and Jose Molina way too often. Some days you can add Melky Cabrera to that. Even with A-Rod, some days you will get Cabrera, Gardner and Molina at 7-8-9. Nick Swisher is a career .262 hitter and won't continue his torrid start (he is already just 3 for his las 18). Xavier Nady's bat will be missed, especially since the Yankees can't seem to count on Hideki Matsui and his gimpy left knee.
  • I am going to try and not freak out over every little detail about the new Yankee Stadium, including the crazy number of home runs that have been hit. Let's get through a whole season, then assess it. I am sure that over time some modifications will be made. It's a beautiful place, it's going to be home to our favorite team for decades to come and we are just going to have to come to grips with that.
  • Chien-Ming Wang will pitch better. That's a pretty easy statement to make. How can you pitch worse than 34.50 ERA and just 6 innings totaled in three starts? The real question is how close will Wang get to his pre-injury level, when he was among the game's best pitchers? He is still a one-trick pony, with a sinkerball and no other truly big-league quality pitches. If the foot injury has robbed him of some velocity and he can't consistently get ground balls every game will be a struggle for him.
  • The bullpen will shake itself out, and the pitching will look better overall once Wang gets straightened out (or gets replaced by Phil Hughes). Already we are seeing Jonathan Albaladejo rise up the bullpen pecking order, and Jose Veras and Edwar Ramirez slide down. Eventually, I think the Yankees will decide they wasted $12 million on Damaso Marte, and Phil Coke will end up as the primary lefty. Brian Bruney looks unhittable, and let's pray that he stays that way. He is pitching like the guy the Yankees always hoped he would become.
  • I am loving A.J. Burnett more than I ever thought I would. I always knew this guy threw hard, but I didn't realize just how dominant his stuff is. The guy is also unafraid and has a little bit of a mean streak on the mound. If he stays healthy he is a great get for the Yankees.
  • Robinson Cano looks primed for a big year. To be honest he had better have one. If he doesn't, the bottom of the Yankee lineup looks pretty pathetic when Molina plays.
  • It hasn't taken long for me to understand just how good of a defensive player Mark Teixeira is. The guy has absolutely tremendous, quick hands. And I am not worried about his .206 batting average. He will hit just fine.
  • Joe Girardi needs to stop outsmarting himself. There have been at least two, maybe three, games already this season where the Yankee manager has started mixing and matching and burning through relievers way too early, and has had it blow up on him. C'mon, Joe, let these guys pitch. Just because you have 8 of 'em out there doesn't mean you have to go through all of 'em every time you get in a close game.

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Batting

G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG
Robinson Cano 13 49 13 19 3 0 3 8 6 5 1 0 .388 .455 .633
Nick Swisher 13 42 11 14 6 1 4 11 6 10 0 0 .333 .429 .810
Melky Cabrera 11 17 5 5 0 0 2 4 2 1 0 0 .294 .368 .647
Xavier Nady 7 28 4 8 4 0 0 2 1 6 0 0 .286 .310 .429
Derek Jeter 13 52 6 14 2 0 3 8 4 8 2 0 .269 .321 .481
Jorge Posada 11 39 4 10 4 0 3 12 4 9 0 0 .256 .333 .590
Johnny Damon 11 39 8 10 1 1 1 3 6 5 3 0 .256 .362 .410
Brett Gardner 13 45 7 11 3 0 0 1 3 9 3 1 .244 .292 .311
Jose Molina 8 19 0 4 0 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 .211 .250 .211
Mark Teixeira 10 34 5 7 2 0 3 7 7 7 0 0 .206 .349 .529
Hideki Matsui 11 31 3 6 2 0 1 3 8 6 0 0 .194 .375 .355
Ramiro Pena 9 11 1 2 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 .182 .308 .182
Cody Ransom 12 40 3 6 3 1 0 5 2 11 0 0 .150 .190 .275
Andy Pettitte 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Anthony Claggett 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
David Robertson 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Mariano Rivera 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
A.J. Burnett 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Chien-Ming Wang 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Jose Veras 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Edwar Ramirez 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Joba Chamberlain 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Damaso Marte 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Brian Bruney 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Phil Coke 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
Jonathan Albaladejo 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000
CC Sabathia 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000

Pitching

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
Mariano Rivera 0-0 5 0 0 0 3 0 5.0 4 0 0 0 0 7 0.00 .80
David Robertson 0-0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2.0 2 0 0 0 0 3 0.00 1.00
Nick Swisher 0-0 13 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0.00 2.00
Andy Pettitte 1-0 2 2 0 0 0 0 14.1 9 4 4 1 2 10 2.51 .77
Brian Bruney 2-0 8 0 0 0 0 0 7.0 1 2 2 0 2 12 2.57 .43
A.J. Burnett 2-0 3 3 0 0 0 0 19.2 13 7 7 3 9 17 3.20 1.12
Jonathan Albaladejo 1-0 5 0 0 0 0 0 8.0 7 3 3 2 2 2 3.38 1.13
CC Sabathia 1-1 3 3 0 0 0 0 17.2 19 7 7 0 10 10 3.57 1.64
Joba Chamberlain 0-0 2 2 0 0 0 0 10.2 10 8 6 2 6 9 5.06 1.50
Phil Coke 0-1 6 0 0 0 0 1 5.1 7 7 4 1 3 6 6.75 1.88
Edwar Ramirez 0-0 4 0 0 0 0 0 5.1 8 5 5 3 6 8 8.44 2.63
Jose Veras 0-1 6 0 0 0 0 0 6.1 4 6 6 1 4 5 8.53 1.26
Damaso Marte 0-0 4 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 8 7 7 2 1 1 21.00 3.00
Chien-Ming Wang 0-3 3 3 0 0 0 0 6.0 23 23 23 2 6 2 34.50 4.83
Anthony Claggett 0-0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.2 9 8 8 2 2 2 43.20 6.60


 

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Chien-Ming Wang will pitch better. That’s a pretty easy statement to make. How can you pitch worse than 34.50 ERA and just 6 innings totaled in three starts? The real question is how close will Wang get to his pre-injury level, when he was among the game’s best pitchers? He is still a one-trick pony, with a sinkerball and no other truly big-league quality pitches. If the foot injury has robbed him of some velocity and he can’t consistently get ground balls every game will be a struggle for him.

He is not a one trick Pony. That is a ridiculous statement. His KEY pitch is his Sinker that everything else works around. He HAD a 94-96 mph fastball, sorry that is a big league pitch. He also has a decent slider as a strikeout pitch. If his sinker isn’t locating and his fastball is in the 89-90 mph range he will get shelled. Same thing for CC, his key pitch is his fastball, everything else is built around that. CC is NOT a one trick pony.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 21, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

His 94-95 mph fastball is his sinker

That is what he throws on almost every pitch. His slider is below average, and so is his splitter or change, whatever it is. How did CC get into this debate?

by Ed Valentine on Apr 21, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wang also threw a straight fastball

as far as I remember. I could have swore that he had a changeup in there too. He just threw the sinker a whole lot and that’s why he didn’t get many K’s.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 21, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

He has his sinker and his 4 seamer which are both or WERE both mid 90’s. Last season he started throwing his Slider and changeup more. His K/9 was slightly higher because of the slider. His four seamer is a big league pitch, his money pitch is his sinker, his strikeout pitches are mediocre with the slider being pretty decent. A one trick pony is Wakefield not Wang. Wang’s problem is that if his money pitch is off it effects everything else. Same with CC, if CC’s fastball is not locating he is gonna give up walks and hits all over the place.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 21, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we agree on one thing

We agree that if the sinker isn’t working, Wang has difficulty getting anybody out. Whether he has other pitches or not, he is dependent on the sinker.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 21, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

I still say the issue with Wang is his velocity more than anything else. He never had a super wicked dropping sinker, he had a super fast bore down in you sinker. Those 4-6 mphs make all the difference in the world, and he can’t even keep anyone honest with his four seamer. Everytime he has thrown it it got crushed. Pitching is three things basically: Velocity, Location, Break. You can have a bad game and not have 2 of those 3 and still get by. Wang has had none of them.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 21, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but...

if the sinker is down- he gets ground balls. period. that hasn’t been happening.

by NumberSeven on Apr 21, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

But you need the other pitches too. If he doesn’t have an honest fastball, the guys will just let the sinker go by and take the majority of them for balls.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 22, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed on most fronts, Ed...

i would disagree with you that once A-Rod comes back they would still need another bat. The Yanks will have one of the best 1-6 in baseball on any given day, and I think whatever you get from 7-8-9 you get. Most teams are thrilled to have a top notch 3-4-5 let alone 6-7 dangerous hitters.

I realize you were just speculating, but that’s my two cents.

by NumberSeven on Apr 21, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope you are right

It’s just tough when you lose Nady and it doesn’t look like you will get much consistently from Matsui

by Ed Valentine on Apr 21, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

here’s hoping Matsui gets better as the year goes on..

by NumberSeven on Apr 21, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Wang video

MLB.com broke down his mechanics from last year to this year. Great stuff. BTW, heard a great stat today. CMW would have to pitch 46 straight scoreless innings at this point to get his ERA under 4.00. I’d say he will be lucky to finish the season with an ERA under 5.00.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 21, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

re: ERA

WOW.. take that number to arbitration next year.. eek.

by NumberSeven on Apr 21, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea that is great stuff with the mechanics break down

His right foot has to either still bother him, or maybe its just in his head.

THat he is not picking up his leg and puttign his arms out wider is a reason why you ball will be flat and not have the downward movement that you want.

It may be as simple as bring his hands in and picking his leg up higher. But who knows if the pain in his foot is still there or that its just in his head that if he comes down hard it will cause pain.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 21, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does make you wonder

If he has complete strength — and complete faith — in the foot. There is little doubt from the footage that he is not getting the push he used to, thus the drop in velocity.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 21, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can forgive the high ERA

if Wang can give quality starts from here on out.

by BigSlim on Apr 21, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wang in Tampa,

thankfully, rather than Fenway this weekend. He’ll hopefully be able to keep his ERA in single digits down there. Pray for rain and don’t let him start again for the Yanks until he gets his act together.

by expos4938 on Apr 21, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

The stats are nice to have, but a bit off in one aspect

Swisher has not pitched in 13 games, nor do we at this point need the pitchers’ batting stats.

by mrljdavid on Apr 21, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Wang need more moxy!!!

I’m concerned that Wang is losing his confidence and if that happens, I’m not sure his stuff will get him through. What he needs is to have more of an attitude on the mound and attack guys with his pitches. Posada has said it many times, that Wang “thinks too much up there” and that he “tries to be too perfect” with his pitches. Wang needs to understand one the basics of baseball as a pitcher and that is you will get hit. Just throw hard and keep the ball down! And with an infield consisting of Tex, Cano, and Jeter, you can’t go wrong. They will keep 90% of the balls from getting into the outfield. Even Cody “his bat is holding the Yankees for” Ransom plays decent enough defense to hold Wang down until Arod gets back! C’mon Wang!! Let’s get it together!!

by dblock on Apr 21, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

wangs ERA and other misleading stats

who cares what CMWs ERA ends up at? as long as he pitches good from whenever til the end of the year then it doesn’t really matter. an appropriate analogy would be, would you rather have a closer who throws 9 shutout appearances and gives up 10 runs in 1 game, or a closer who gives up a run in 10 straight games? ERA can be overrated, it is more important to be good 4 out of 6 games, then to be mediocre for 6 games straight. just my opinion. go yanks!

by soxaredone on Apr 22, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

A 7-6 start is not great, but it’s not horrible either.

How about when one of those loses in 6 games is 15 to 5, and another is 22 to 4. Suddenly a 7-6 start ain’t looking to good. See you this weekend boys.

by spspangler on Apr 23, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions  

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