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Around the Yankees' Universe, 04.20.09

Let's take a look around the Inter-Google at the stories making headlines around the Yankees' Universe this morning.

  • Jorge Posada's game-winning home run (or was it a home run) provided the first read controversy at the new Yankee Stadium. Considering the outcome, maybe the Yankees did bring the ghosts across the street. It took no time at all, though, for the Jeffrey Maier comparisons. Peter Abraham pointed out that this incident brings up another thing the Yankees will need to look at fixing.
  • There has been much speculation already about why so many home runs are being hit at the new Stadium. Was Watching had a very interesting piece in which it analyzed the Stadium and found its dimensions did actually vary ever so slightly from its predecessor. I wonder how the ball will fly tonight when the first night game at the Stadium is played.
  • George Vescey of the New York Times says both the Yankees and Mets are learning about the quirks of their new homes. In another story about the stadiums, Wallace Matthews of Newsday says both teams appear to have misjudged the market.
  • Nick Swisher is everybody's darling in New York right now. But, Chicago White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen had some unkind things to say about Swisher, who struggled in Chicago last year. When Swisher struggles, as he inevitably will, we will see how much of what Guillen says might be true.
  • Chien-Ming Wang does not understand why he has struggled so much in his first three starts.

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Wang may need a rehab stint in AAA. He is only making the bullpen work harder and more often so far this season. Let Kennedy or Hughes make a few starts while Wang gets it together. Why waste more starts if this can be resolved early in the season.

by eddieo311 on Apr 20, 2009 7:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Not this again

We have mentioned it already … and it has been written in several places. The Yankees CANNOT send Wang to AAA. He has no options left. They would have to pass him through waivers, and if Dan Giese got claimed you know darn well a guy who won 19 games back-to-back seasons in 2006 and 2007 would get claimed.
Wang will almost certainly be skipped this week since the Yankees have an off day. That’s all the Yanks can do right now — skip his turn and work with him on the side to fix the mechanical flaws messing up his sinker.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 20, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

There's been talk

that he’s lost a few MPH off his fastball, just enough to make him hittable. If that’s the problem, I don’t know that you can fix it just by working on his mechanics.

by django48 on Apr 20, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

The sinkerball

does not have to be thrown incredibly hard. it’s a movement/location pitch. There is something going on w/Wang, though. If they can’t get him straightened out he will end up wasting away at the end of the bullpen.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 20, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't have to be thrown hard

but that was Wang’s strength. When the guy was on he’d throw 95 mph sinkers and he’d be unhittable.

He needs to make some adjustments if he can’t throw that hard anymore. His sinker and slider are up in the zone, and even when they are down they are breaking way too early.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 20, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's odd though

that he was apparently throwing OK in spring training. That would rule out any aftereffect from the foot injury.

It makes me believe that it’s more likely mental than physical.

by django48 on Apr 20, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not pull a Dice-K

He ain’t disabled but he sure as hell is on the 15 day list

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Apr 20, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say that's likely after his next start.

Nothing’s been said that he WON’T make it, so I’d assume he’s gonna start his next game. But that’s likely gonna be done if he bombs again cuz there’s something wrong

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 20, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

will Giambi be cheered/

I know i am probably in the minority but i hope Giambi hets booed today.. This is the same guy who asked out of a world series game because he was too hurt, refused to make any attempt to become a serviceable first baseman and pouted whenever he was replace for defense while he was here. BTW he was here for three years before A-Rod even though Alex seems to take all the heat for all the losses since 2001 even though he didnt get here until 2004. Giambi came here stopped getting on base, stopped being the player he was in Oakland and basically lived on his reputation here. So why is he talked about like he was a great player here?

chandler knight

by ae2cdk on Apr 20, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Giambi probably will get cheered

I don’t think he’s hated here even if he never was the player he was in Oakland.

Only players like Pavano would get booed when they come to the stadium.

To be honest, Id blame not only Yankee Stadium but the coaching staff for Giambi not putting up Oakland numbers. He probably was still on the roid with the Yanks so it wasn’t that.

Giambi used to spray the ball all around the field at Oakland, still hitting HR too. If you tried to pull that infield shift bullcrap in Oakland the guy would have batted .500. The hitting coaches and yankee stadium had to invited the guy to just start pulling everything, and that was why he didn’t post those Oakland numbers with the Yanks.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 20, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guillen

Is a loud mouth who may be a good manager, but I can’t take the guy seriously. If I am reading it right, Swisher didn’t say anything about Ozzie- just that he liked playing for Joe G. Ozzie also needs to remember he’s not the only manager Swish has played for.

Pete Abe? He needs to GET OVER his whole “fixing the stadium” thing. The seats beyond the wall problem is an issue in many ball parks, not just Yankee Stadium. Perhaps Pete will be the foreman or lead architect on the off-season construction crew… Report on the Yanks Pete, stop whining.

by NumberSeven on Apr 20, 2009 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Pete Abe

I think you are probably right. Pete doesn’t like the new place, and he goes to great pains to tell everybody. He needs to let it go and get back to covering the team.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 20, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

CMW

looked pretty good in the first inning that game. He was throwing hard and got the ball down.

That Choo HR was incredible and that probably was the trigger. If his next start is in line to be an away game, I think he’s got to be allowed to make that start. Its only April so another loss while bad isn’t the end of the world.

Choo’s HR was on an absolutely perfect pitch, it was a vintage CMW sinker. How that ball got out I don’t know

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 20, 2009 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

I would agree

The Choo homer came on a knee-high pitch on the outside corner. How do you hit that ball 410 feet, which he did? After that I think Wang just came unglued.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 20, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

His first inning performance is more evidence

to suggest that the problem is in his head rather than his delivery or some physical ailment/injury.

by django48 on Apr 20, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

After the Choo HR

Wang probably thought “here we go again” and the inevitable followed. As we’ve previously mentioned CMW can not be sent to Scranton. IMO his next start should be skipped until Eiland and Wang can fix his mechanics. Give Hughes the start. I know the prevailing opinion is that these “games don’t matter” but I disagree, these games are just as important as the games down the stretch.

Giambi should and will be recieved well by the fans tonight. He had his moments and didn’t take the piss like Pavano.

As for Abe, he needs something to bitch about, first it was A-Rod, then Girardi and now it’s the new stadium. Get over it, Pete, it isn’t going anywhere.

by FrankDiscussion on Apr 20, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

CMW and Posda HR

CMW is going to miss his next start. Would you have him pitched relief until he straightens out, given that AAA is not an option? Seems like a confidence problem in part so I’m not sure the best way to solve that one.

And while the media is calling the Posada HR a gift (Today’s NY Post: “The Homer Field Advantage”), the NYY scored three more in the 8th for a four run lead. So technically it was a game winning HR, but the NYY went on to pad it. So what gives?

As far as Giambi, I would cheer him. He wanted to stay with the Yankees, he seemed like a good guy (albeit with PEDs), and he averaged about 400 OBP and 500 SLG in the post season (better than Matsui, Shefield, and Arod), so I can’t fault the guy (albet PEDs).

Anyone notice the empty seats at the stadium?

"No matter where you go, there you are"

by coops2001 on Apr 20, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Wang I think gets one more shot

I know he kinda has his third strike, but the guy has earned a 4th start with his past.

If he does the same crap, he should go straight to the DL with a few rehab starts. If he does fine then all is well.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 20, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's a tough call with CMW,

I agree with FreeBradshaw that based on his past, CMW should get the benefit of the doubt, but then again based on his three starts I’ve seen this season he needs to hit the DL now. I’m worried about his confidence taking a beating if he spits the bit again against the Red Sox. The positive in all of this is that the team has options.

by FrankDiscussion on Apr 20, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

bench wang now, just so he doesnt have another blowout. That will kill his confidence, and possibly his season.

by eddieo311 on Apr 20, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

what do y'all

think of this idea to prevent homeruns (if the park does indeed play like a bandbox all year):
big, clear plastic ‘windows’ on top of the outfield wall – like they did in the old Metrodome – which would make it tougher to hit HRs and prevent fan interference. it’s far cheaper than any other option.

if you’re sitting in the bleachers, how much would that bother you? do you like the fan interference?

other options may include:
- putting a huge tarp to cover the open spaces in the power alleys to prevent the jet streams.
- or cover the back of the seating sections like the old park. i’ve heard the ‘openness’ allows air to circulate faster and freer in the new park.

by Travis G on Apr 20, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Yuck!

Big plastic windows in a place that cost that much to build? Ugh! I think before they do anything they need to let it play out for a while and see if this trend continues. Eventually, they probably will do something about the fans leaning over. One thing I would like to see is a net over Monument Park like the one that was there is the old Stadium. Right now balls can fly in there and hit the monuments.

by Ed Valentine on Apr 20, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, i'm interested in finding out

the opinions of people who sit in the bleachers.

the fact that it cost so much means they should have gotten it right the first time.

but i agree that they have to play out the season as is. four games ain’t close to enough to know one way or the other.

the windows is a far more direct, viable and cheap option than any other for decreasing offense. they clearly wont make any major renovations like pushing the walls back (in the near future), so i’m trying to think of ideas that are easy and cheap.

by Travis G on Apr 20, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This whole CMW thing is kind of surreal...

…he’s always been lauded for being mentally tough and unflappable. Hell, I’m from Taiwan, and you wouldn’t believe how crazy people love him over there. (And he gets a lot of praise for being a tough kid)

So it’s pretty weird seeing him struggle so terribly with what seems to be a bit of a mental block.

by The Raging Platypus on Apr 20, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

No one with his proven talent and record

pitches that badly – ERA over 35? – unless there’s a problem. It’s frustrating, because there’s no real clue what’s wrong.

by django48 on Apr 20, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just hire him an interpreter to prevent any possible misunderstanding!

We all know Wang does not speak perfect English and none of his coaches and teammates can speak Chinese.
How can they solve his problem when they may not communicate with each other perfectly?
  

by Raven King on Apr 20, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

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