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Foolishness- the Nick Swisher Edition

"If we were to break today, Nady would be my right fielder," Girardi said.

How can I measure my disbelief?

The latest research suggests that defense is even more important than we had previously believed.  At 43 runs below average, the Yankees were the second worst defensive team in the majors last season.

Giambi, Abreu, and Jeter all on the same field- it's a good thing the Royals were around to be even worse.

The Yanks have paid a lot of lip service to improving the defense- they learned the lesson of the Beltran non-sign, and this season they broke the bank for the premier offensive and defensive player available (Tex).

A team has 27 outs in which to score more runs than the opponent.  

UZR is a zone rating calculated by watching every game, measuring every hit ball (liner, fly ball, hard grounder, Baltimore chop, etc), and whether or not the fielder got to it.  There are flaws- since it's not a measure of distance covered, positioning is indistinguishable from skill, and (I believe) it gives no credit for knocking the ball down to hold the runner to a single.  But it's one of the best metrics publicly available.

UZR/150 is measured in runs saved over an average 150 games.  If a superior right fielder clocks in at 9.4 UZR in right field, it means he'll save you 9.4 runs more than the average fielder over 150 games.  And a -1.4 UZR means the opponent will score an extra 1.4 runs.

Those are, of course, the numbers for Swisher and Nady.  Oh, and in the last 3 years it's an even more profound split.  Swish looks about the same, but Nady actually posted his first positive season (2) since a 13.4 with the Padres in 2003 at age 24.  Take that one really good season out, and it gets ugly fast.

I use Pythag Standings a lot because its been shown to be a very effective predictor of final standings.  Last season, the Yanks expected to win 87 games, scoring 789 runs while allowing 727.  If we had saved 10 more runs (Swisher would save 10.8 runs over Nady), we could have expected 88 wins.  10 runs = 1 win.

I subscribe to the belief that the couple of wins separating playoff teams are decided by even narrower margins.  These marginal wins are the most valuable in the game because they decide who plays October baseball..

So how could you really choose the guy with the lesser defensive reputation, the lesser defensive stats, and the more inconsistent offensive history?

Can Nady's .256/.289/.488 line really look that much grittier and guttier than Swisher's .257/.400/.314?

Here's my stab at giving Joe G. the benefit of the doubt:

Since it usually takes a switch hitter like Swisher longer to find his stroke from both sides of the plate, Girardi could begin the season with Nady as the "regular" RF and swap them once Swish gets going.

Do you buy it? 

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Good post

of course I agree with everything you say. One caveat regarding Swisher is that he has been historically difficult to evaluate defensively http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/range-revisited/
but I think we all agree-Swisher is better offensively and better defensively. He is just…better.

by Buzzy on Mar 25, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree.

My take at BtB.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Mar 25, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Sky

You handle these numbers better than I do- does UZR give any credit to a fielder who makes it to a ball without recording an out (opposed with a guy who can’t make it to the play)?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Mar 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it could be like taking a good route

to a liner in the gap where it has already hit the ground and stopping the runner from taking an extra base. i mean it would be marginal, but it could happen. i think.

by someguy132 on Mar 25, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, gotcha. Yes, that's included.

It would show up in the Arm portion of UZR. Yes, a little weird semantically, but it makes sense from a data analysis point of view. “Range” is a measure of turning batted balls into outs. “Arm” is a measure of preventing baserunners from advancing.

Keep in mind that UZR (and most other systems) can’t/don’t do any scouting. So a good route is only rewarded if a play is made. That is everything is results based. UZR is smart enough to detect the hard plays versus the easy plays to some degree and players are credited/blamed accordingly.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Mar 26, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does UZR's

arm rating factor in OFers ‘intimidation factor’?

by Travis G on Mar 26, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, indirectly. There are no fear surveys.

If baserunners often decide not to try for extra bases and thus advance fewer bases than you’d expect, that’s credited to the OF’s arm rating.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Mar 27, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys

may well be proven right as the season goes along. My point in raising the issue the other day was that this decision was not that big of a deal in the big picture. Both guys will be important, both will play a lot and Swisher could very possibly end up w/more ABs than Nady. I am trusting that Girardi has a plan.

by Ed Valentine on Mar 25, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nicely done, jscape

Agreed 100%.

I believe Swisher will wrestle that job away from Nady at some point this season. Girardi probably hasn’t seen Swisher play the outfield all that much but he’ll soon realize why Swisher is the better defender.

And Nady’s numbers are going to drop from a year ago.

by anaconda on Mar 25, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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