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The Moral of the Story

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The big fish never get thrown back.

I've said before, but it's worth repeating: we don't know how all the designers 'roids work.  They don't all effect the body in the same way.  There's no way to eyeball it and say, "him, not him."

And frankly, it's not worth the effort.

There are 104 names on that 2003 list.  And Arod is the only one who got named.  The Mitchell report named a slew of Yankees and Mets, but only one recently acquired and soon-to-depart Red Sox (Gagne).

Leaks are designed to make news.  So this did.  The question is, who benefits from this leak?  If it was somebody who fantasizes himself a whistle blower, we'd have the complete list.  My guess is it's someone in the federal government who hopes that kicking the hornets nest will raise enough public/ Congressional pressure to force MLB to "willingly" give up the full list so the feds can use it in court against Bonds and the rest.

As for the baseball side, the lost innocence and betrayal of trust?  Screw it.  I gave up my illusions a long time ago.

They're all on something.   Every player in every clubhouse.  Why would you play the game fairly when you know tomorrow's pitcher added 4 mph to his fastball?  Why would you play clean when a few shots mean the difference between the league minimum as a role player when you could make millions in arbitration or free agency?

I suspect them all because I would be taking something.  In the same way that I'd want an agent willing to wring every last dollar from the owners, I'd want a supplement to my natural skills.  Maybe not testosterone- that's got a particular side effect I wouldn't be ok with.  But with all the miracles of modern science at my disposal, and a minimum $400,000 salary, someone would whip up a batch of something to make me better.

Trust no one.

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so, what are you saying? it shouldnt be a big deal to take roids because lots of people would be willing to cheat?

by spinz on Feb 8, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

Is it a big deal?

I want to think it is.
But I can’t be dismissive of records cheaters set playing against cheaters. I can’t lock them out of the HoF or void their contracts.

Of course I wish they’d made better choices, but I can’t fault them for the decisions they made.

I can’t get worked up enough to boo a player who has been caught cheater when it’s likely that most, if not all, the other players on the field should be booed too.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Feb 8, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

is is it..

here here… whatever, you get the point.

by NumberSeven on Feb 8, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd never considered it

Is it here, here?
Wiki says:

The phrase hear him, hear him! was used in Parliament since the late 1600s, and had been reduced to hear! or hear, hear! by the late 1700s. The verb hear had earlier been used in the King James Bible as a command for others to listen.1

Looks like you were right the first time.

As an added bonus, the “See also” section includes “Me, too!” and “+1”.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Feb 8, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Prediction on A-Roid's 2009 Stats

.275 27HR 95RBI 10SB 90R

Traded to San Fran for AA prospect in off-season, with Yankees eating 20M of his contract

by BrianByron on Feb 8, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Not a chance

Though that is funny.
The Rangers- who had basically told the world they HAD to trade Arod and paid most of his 2004 salary still got Alfonso Soriano in return.

If Arod hits .275/.375/.500 he’s probably the second or third best 3B in MLB and the best in the AL.
He hit .302/.392/.573 in ’08, 35HR despite missing 24 games (including his first trip to the DL since he was a Mariner a decade ago).

No reason to stop juicing now.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Feb 8, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but

now he’ll be scrutinized even harder by the fans and media, and for A-Roid, his problems are all mental. So, my numbers are factoring that in, plus normal decline for age.

A good question is – if he switched to HGH after 03 through last year, would he stop now? It’s still undetectable, so maybe he wouldn’t, but even so, my opinion is we see a significant decline.

by BrianByron on Feb 8, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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