SI doesn't like Yankees' chances
SI.com is out with its Spring Training primers, and if you believe SI when it comes to the American League East the Yankees might as well pack their bags and go home now.
Here is SI's 'Scout's Take' on the three teams in the division that matter -- the Yankees, Tampa Bay and Boston.
On the Yankees.
"I'm sorry, I just don't see it: This is not a championship team. CC's performance in big games has to be a concern; I don't have much confidence in him in the big spot. You know Burnett's going to make a couple trips to the DL. The defense behind the pitching is still a horror show. With all this stuff going on with A-Rod, getting Teixeira was even bigger for them, because a lot of their problems last year were actually with scoring runs. [Jorge] Posada is such an important part of what they do, they need him to somehow stay in the lineup. They're going to struggle to get into the playoffs."
On the Rays.
"I don't think they'll drop off much, not with getting a full season out of David Price, who is the real deal. [Scott] Kazmir needs to learn how to pitch past the sixth. Overall, I love the starting pitching -- they're young and talented, and they're not going anywhere. The closer-by-committee doesn't worry me as much as it worries others because they've got quality arms there. I love Balfour. I think they're going to score more runs this year. Carlos Pena looked awful at the start of the year but got things turned around, and I think he's going to have a big season. I think the Pat Burrell signing was a very good one. He fits in well in that lineup. They're going to be good again, and they've got a chance to be better."
On the Red Sox.
"You have to like the gambles they took with Smoltz, Baldelli, and Penny. And don't forget Saito -- those guys could come up big for them down the stretch. They've got great starting pitching depth, and the bullpen is solid. If there's one thing I worry about it's their offensive production. I'm not 100 percent sure Youkilis can duplicate those numbers from last year, and I'm sorry, but David Ortiz is just not the same player. They can't count on him for 40 homers. Still, they're one of the two or three favorites to win the whole thing, no doubt."
Are you buying what SI is selling here? If so, that means another third-place finish for the Yankees.
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gotta love SI
CC threw off 3 consecutive games of 3 days rest beofer he had his poor post season showing…maybe that had somethin to do with it being so poor. I wonder how many of the rays pitchers or red sox pitchers could’ve have accomplished the same. As far as catching goes …who does boston rely on for that position? oh yeah …. Vtech ! Even if the yanks plit the season with molina the offense from that position will still be better. As for the Rays well… hopefully everthing in their world works out perfectly like it did last year and navarro is an Allstar with no pop again, If not the he’ll bat 227 like he did the year before. Does anyone else worry about the hands down faith in David price, I mean I know he’s got great stuff but so did alot of can’t miss prospects. I could write a page of my disputs to this claim but it’s so rediculous it’s not even worth it.
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by flandojumb on Feb 21, 2009 7:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just about what
I would expect from SI. I’d rather get my baseball commentary / opinions from TV Guide.
by FrankDiscussion on Feb 21, 2009 9:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want some of that stuff
What are they smoking! Rasner/ Ponson/IPK/Hughes/Pavano/Giese/Aceves/Bruney and Igawa accounted for 68 starts last year. Not one person offensively hit over their head. In fact with the Posada and Matsui injuries, the pickup of Swisher and Tex and if we can pick up more offense from 2b and cf i would say the offense should see some upside. With all that we still won 89 games last year. They really have it out for us…….Bring It!!!!
by lovehew on Feb 21, 2009 10:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
One bad start at Philly proves CC can’t pitch in big games, but the way he carried the Brewers through September doesn’t count for anything?
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by John B on Feb 21, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You forgot three bad starts in the 2007 playoffs.
CC has entered the playoffs overused and overworked for two straight years.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Feb 22, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SI likes to go against the Favorite
They have been doing this for years, so its really tough to take what they say as gospel. The Yankees are the clear-cut favorites everywhere else, so SI just wants to be different. Maybe they are tired of the Free agent signing talk and the A-Rod story and are trying to change the subject.
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by JTM1023 on Feb 21, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
clear cut?
PECOTA has yanks 2nd to BoSux.
I personally think (and hope) it’s the Yankees year this year…especially since I don’t buy into the choke/clutch bullshit.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Feb 21, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can't wait
till Burnett can haunt boston’s lineup.
till Price can’t find a constistant changeup and barely gets passed the 5th.
till vtech hits like a pitcher all yr.
till dice K’s walk totalls finally catch up to him and cost him more than sweat.
till JD drews back stiffens up weekly and lowell rocks a cain at 3B.
till baseball starts and yanks win it all!
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by flandojumb on Feb 21, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That writer is retarted. It’s the same guy who changed Joba’s stats to make a point. In that article he tried to claim that Joba had a 4.something ERA during starts. More like 2.73 ERA.
He also said the biggest question they have to answer this spring is whether joba starts or comes out of the pen. Excuse me? To a man, every person in the organization has said he is going to start. He’s a starter. So how is that their biggest question.
How about who’s the right fielder? Or will Posada stay healthy.
I also believe, in the very same article, he knocked the Yankees bullpen, which was tops in the game last year.
by Rob Abruzzese on Feb 21, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He's just trying to make a headline and stur up controversy
That SI writer doesn’t know a thing about baseball, everyone except him I think has the yanks as favorites to win the east.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by kdog on Feb 21, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not Baseball Prospectus
They have the Sox first, with Yanks 1 game back.
by BTLove on Feb 21, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Yeah, but BP is worthless anymore. I’m willing to bet that Marcels outperforms PECOTA this year.
by Omar Little on Feb 22, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like how
they judge the Yankees by worst case scenario- Burnett goes to the dl 2x and CC is bad in the playoffs. But then for the redsox they are judged by best case scenario- Brad Penny miraculously makes their rotation the deepest in baseball and john smoltz of course is gonna come back and be awesome. GTFO sports illustrated you suck.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Feb 21, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well I do think the Penny and Smoltz
pickups were very good moves for Boston. Both give the team options. And we know about the injury risk to Burnett. What is good news is that the rotation is pretty deep. If or when Burnett goes down we have people who can take on that role.
Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.
by Edwantsacracker on Feb 22, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but
Going into the season with that as your primary back up plan isn’t really a good idea. You have a fat out of shape Penny with lackluster stuff anymore, an old Smoltz who won’t be ready until June…those things in the AL East? Yeah, I’m sure that’s a magical plan. I’d totally rather do that than Sabathia and Burnett. Furthermore, you have a glorified Ian Kennedy in Bowden, a ROOGY in Masterson, and Buchholz who couldn’t keep his fastball in the park. Yeah, that’s some depth.
by Omar Little on Feb 22, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In this day and age
it’s smart to pick against the favorite.
What did they say? " They’re going to struggle to get into the playoffs." If the Yanks make the playoffs. OK, they didn’t say they wouldn’t. The only way their wrong is if they run away and hide in the regular season or win it all.
This is why they actually play the games.
If I's known I was going to live so long, I'd have taken better care of myself. Casey
by Cbeck3 on Feb 21, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck SI...even MLB tv goes by SABR metrics
Last year I spent most the season at a sports bar that had the extra innings package so I literally watched 6-7 games a night, one trend I noticed was the broadcasts starting to abandon wretched conventional wisdom and go more SABR….now if only SI and ESPN catches on…
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Feb 21, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW SI got some issues
you know i used to like reading some of what they had to say but i dont know they have just become horrible, and you know what as far as arod goes and media and everything im sick of it .. like honestly these reporters are paid to ruin peoples lives some stuff that should never go public and private stuff .. jus it disgusts me and SI has become like the TMZ of sports .. and when the yankees win all this year everyone is going to bite their tongues ..
by I Bleed Pinstripes on Feb 21, 2009 5:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
whatever
i defy anyone to find a publication that had tampa as AL champs last year. ‘nuff said. let’s play ball..
by NumberSeven on Feb 22, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude...
While correct, that’s terrible logic.
by Omar Little on Feb 22, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see TB as a 3rd Place team this season
Jayson Stark had an interesting piece the other day about how rare it is for teams to sustain greatness after making such a huge jump in wins.
We thought the Tigers were here to stay after the 2006 season and ditto with the Indians after the 2007 season. None of that happened.
I think they are going to be a better offensive club this season but their pitching will regress a bit – at least enough to finish third in this tough division.
One thing to keep in mind is that the rotation was remarkably durable with five pitchers combining to make 152 of their 162 starts. That’s phenomenal – and also very rare – which is a big reason why I think the rotation will regress a bit because rotations don’t often repeat that.
They had some pretty good luck on their side in that department. Maybe they ’ll need to start carrying four leaf clovers in their pockets.
It’s also a different game to be the hunter rather than the hunted. TB isn’t going to sneak up on anybody this season and they are now going to feel some pressure that they’ve never dealt with in the past.
by anaconda on Feb 22, 2009 12:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
SI and ESPN is pure bias towards the Red Sox.
I mean, if they weren’t then this wouldn’t be a rivalry.
by schmosterballs92 on Feb 23, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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