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Defensive Revolution

Have you noticed a trend among GMs, statisticians and fans that emphasizes the importance of defense?

Over the past (roughly) five years, the importance of defense has seemingly come back into the limelight. Before that, offense was the only concern of GMs and fans. A guy hits like Giambi? Who cares that he can't field? Barry Bonds can't move? Whatever - he gets on base or homers more than half the time.

Part of that is a greater understanding of the differences between pitching and fielding. What we used to think of as solid pitching (e.g., inducing weakly hit balls) we now think is more a product of solid defense (turning balls in play into outs).

There's also an absence of elite hitters like there were 5-10 years ago (e.g. Bonds, McGwire, Sosa). Teams were willing to put up with their poor defense because their hitting was other-wordly. No such hitters exist nowadays.

Last but not least, the study of baseball has undergone the natural progression that every facet of science experiences. Just as we understand physics better now than 10 years ago, the same is true of baseball.

For example, this study shows that Carlos Gomez (.258/.296/.360 in 2008) was actually more valuable than Jermaine Dye! (.292/.344/.521) - partly due to baserunning, but primarily due to defense, where he saved 32 more runs than Dye.

Gomez should be important for us to look at because of the similarity to Brett Gardner: very fast, very good D, not much bat. Gardner, I'll have you know, was the best defensive outfielder in all of baseball last year (among guys with at least 300 innings). Bear in mind though that he won't be that great over a whole season, but it's extremely promising.

If Gardner can even hit somewhere around .260/.330/.360 (which is perfectly reasonable and better than Gomez), steal some bases and play his usual defense, he will be very valuable.

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Gardner's value

I think you could be right about Gardner, he may end up being right now. Not amazing, but he could push AJax to a corner outfield spot.

by Rob Abruzzese on Feb 14, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

You could see this coming a mile away

Abreu’s horrific defense and age were the primary reasons the Yanks’ front office let him walk without any effort to resign him.

It certainly wasn’t because he couldn’t hit any longer.

by anaconda on Feb 15, 2009 5:59 AM EST reply actions  

It's fascinating because

Gomez is the breed of player you’d have considered perfectly acceptable in CF 25 years ago. We got away from all-D no-bat up the middle players during 90s as we realized the value of OBP and we moved away from entirely subjective scouting.
Now, we’ve made the advances to quantify our scouting, and this allows us to really put the bat and the D in perspective.

Great post.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Feb 15, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

yes, we've come a long

way in terms of, as you say, ‘quantifying’ defense, and that is the biggest reason for the recent trend toward defense.

by Travis G on Feb 15, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

No Elite Hitters?

Um…. Manny Ramirez…. Albert Pujols?

But I do agree with your point.

Bring back the scrappy, fundamentally sound baseball players of yore!

The Yankees don’t need another slugger…. they need another Chad Curtis!

Lets keep developing Brett Gardner!

My dying words will be 'Go Giants!'"

by wankerboy on Feb 16, 2009 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

believe it or not

Manny and Pujols are not in the same category as the guys of 5-10 years ago, like Bonds and McGwire, who both had several seasons with an OPS+ over 200. Neither Manny or Pujols ever had one.

by Travis G on Feb 17, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

fyi

the only active player with even a single season over 200 OPS+ is Frank Thomas (211), who did it in 1994 (if he’s considered active.)

by Travis G on Feb 17, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

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