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Farm system recap: Charleston River Dogs

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Like the GCL Yankees, the River Dogs enjoyed a good season, finishing 74-65, third in the South Atlantic League's Southern Division.

The batting star was 21-year-old Dan Brewer, drafted in the eighth round last year. In 58 games, the outfielder hit .323/.429/.473, and rightfully got promoted to Tampa (posting a less stellar line of .290/.359/.402 in 59 games).

Another '08 draftee, 20-year-old Corban Joseph (CoJo, taken in the fourth round), also had a fine season: .300/.381/.418, playing 100 games between second and thirdbase.

The next Brett Gardner, Dominican-born Abraham Almonte, had his second tour with Charleston, and it showed, as he upped his OPS more than 60 points (.662 to .724). Perhaps more importantly, the 20-year-old has shown consistent progress in his base-stealing ability, going 29-39 last year and 36-41 this year. A foot race between Almonte and Gardner would be a toss up.

For the hurlers, the prospects of note were Manny Banuelos, Pat Venditte and Andrew Brackman.

Star-divide

Man-Ban quickly became the top southpaw in the system, and for good reason: 108 ip, 2.67 ERA, 104 K, 28 BB, 1.07 WHIP, 4 HR, and best of all, he's just 18. Keep your eye on him.

Venditte is, of course, the famous switch-pitcher from Creighton. Many have already written him off as a novelty act that would wear thin at the major league level. That is certainly possible, but he has yet to struggle in his progression through the minors. He was so good in Charleston (30.2 ip, 1.47 ERA, 40 K, 2 BB) that he got promoted halfway through the year. While his constant platoon advantage may not be enough by itself to make him a good ML reliever, a 129:21 career K:BB ratio through two years is tough to ignore. He's getting results, and that's all that matters.

And now to the giant, 6'10" Andrew Brackman (photo). Despite a poor year statistics-wise, you can't be too disappointed as he was coming off Tommy John surgery. That he managed to pitch 106.2 innings (third most on the team), and strikeout 103, were encouraging. What's not were his walks (76), wild pitches (26), hit batters (10), hits allowed (106) and ERA (5.91). He did show a bit of progress toward the end of the year after he began relieving: he allowed no walks in his last four games (spanning 10 innings). The 23-year-old has a major league contract, so he has to be on the Yankees roster in 2012; next year is huge for him - he needs to show improvement.

2010's guesstimates:

All three hitters, Brewer, CoJo and Almonte, will start in Tampa with Brewer a potential early call-up to Trenton.

The pitchers will be more spread out. Banuelos starts in Tampa (he was promoted there at the very end of this season, pitching one inning), Venditte goes to Trenton (after spending the latter half of '09 in Tampa), and Brackman stays in Charleston. Until Brackman can get his control... under control, there's no reason to promote him to face more patient hitters, but he can get an early promotion if he's having a good first month or two (ERA under 4.00, walk rate under 5.00).

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It’s a common last name.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

haha,

I believe Danny is 45 now right? So it makes sense.

by Leviticus6688 on Dec 3, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Brett Gardner had a pretty impressive first season IMO. I have more faith in him to be an everyday center fielder than I do in Austin Jackson if he can hit as well as he did in 2009.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

impressive?

when your OPS is close to .700….its not impressive.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 3, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You're easily impressed.

Gardner is a slap hitter with no future as an everyday player in the majors.

I get why everyone WANTS him to be good though. He’s got a friendly face and he tries really hard.

I don’t know why you have more faith in Gardner than Jackson. A-Jax is 22 years old and already at AAA. When Gardner was 22 he had an OPS of 670 in AA.

There isn’t even a comparison.

by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 3, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

OPS

OPS isn’t the best measure, it overvalues SLG%. Gardner put up a .337 wOBA in 2009(league average is .329). That means he was an above average hitter in 2009. Then once you factor in his defense and baserunning, he had quite a year.

The question is whether he can keep hitting at league average rate. If he can, he’s more valuable than you think.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine, Gardner is the greatest.

Let’s play him 140 times and see how that turns out.

by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 3, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m not sure how it will turn out, but if he continues to be a league average hitter, he is a very valuable guy. If not, he’s 4th OF fodder. At this point, Jackson doesn’t really look like an above-average hitter to me and Gardner’s defense is significantly better.

This has nothing to do with me wanting him to be good because he has a friendly face. This has more to do with the fact that guy was worth over 2 WAR in 100 games in 2010 and significantly cut down his strikeout rate by swinging at very few pitches outside of the strike zone.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's what I don't understand...

…you’re optimistic about Gardner at 26, yet have already made a judgement about Jackson’s future at 22.

It’s insanity. Just admit that you love Gardner and are biased in his favor, because there’s no other explanation for saying anything definitive about Jackson at this point in his career.

by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Stats guy

I’m a stats guy. Jackson obviously has time to develop,there’s no doubt about that, but I was very disappointed in his showing in AAA. Gardner’s AAA stats were impressive, but there was no way to tell if he would be able to walk in the majors. In ‘09, he was able to. Again, 2.1 WAR in a player’s first season in 99 games is impressive, it has nothing to do with bias. Gardner’s major league numbers this season were better than Austin Jackson’s AAA numbers.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

At this point

When I said, at this point, I was thinking for the 2010 season, to clear that up.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody with a brain...

…is suggesting that Jackson should be on the big club in 2010. That’s an argument you’re having against yourself.

Jackson has 1 year at AAA, at 22 years old. He’s never started a year at the same level he finished the previous one. His stats at AAA were very similar to his numbers at AA.

You can’t evaluate him at least until after 2010 in Scranton.

by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 3, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Also...

…using wOBA, Gardner was below average for outfielders, 70th out of 128 players with 250+ plate appearances.

by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to group him with other center fielders, not all outfielders.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I give +1s to both sides of the conversation.
I think Gardner should be the Opening Day CF. But I want a viable back-up plan (Melky) in case Gardner suffers from over-exposure. It’s the only way to find out if Gardner is an MLB player or quad-A.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Dec 3, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

Melky should be kept around(I don’t think he has much trade value anyway), but I just really liked what I saw out of Gardner statistically in ’09.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

26th out of 48

OPS (which you don’t care about): 35th.

Below average.

by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 3, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Right around average

Fair point, but 26th is the middle of the pack, and then he is 14th in UZR in very limited playing time, making him above average overall. He also scored very highly in The Fan’s Scouting Report if you don’t like UZR.

We don’t know what Gardner is yet, but I think you’re selling short what he did in 2009.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a slap hitter.

with a below average arm. He has range.

He’s basically Juan Pierre with less contact.

He’s an OK guy to platoon. If he’s your starting CF….you need an upgrade.

Him + Melky is not bad, but Gardner alone? Pass.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 3, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

In a 30 team league...

…26th isn’t middle of the pack. There are 25 other CFers with 250+ PAs who were better.

That includes platoon guys, like Gardner. He strikes out too much for a guy with ZERO power.

They need to find a permanent solution in CF, and sadly for you Gardner isn’t it. There’s no shame in being a 4th OFer, and I can live with the Gardner/Melky platoon. People are so hard on Melky, even though he’s younger than Gardner.

It’s ridiculous.

by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 3, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Driveline Mechanics

Here’s a post from Driveline Mechanics that says why Gardner is good way better than I can:

http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2009/9/23/1051095/2010-yankees-center-field-showdown

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Profiles

In case anyone’s interested, we put up full profiles of Corban Joseph and Dan Brewer over the past few days at Pending Pinstripes. Figured it was worth mentioning since you mentioned them both in this post.

Greg F.
http://pendingpinstripes.net

by gfertel on Dec 3, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

Isn't Corban Joseph the character Bruce Willis played in 5th Element?

…why don’t we bring the 5th Element up to the Bigs already?

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 3, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Willis was Corbin Dalls….Still a cool nickname though

by DarthRichter on Dec 3, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah

and two NY SB Nation blogs become one

by Jaybat on Dec 3, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe...

but I hate all Dallas teams.

The Mavericks, the Stars, The Texas Rangers…I don’t discriminate by sport.

F em all.

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 3, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

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