The Corner and Cliff Lee
When Roy Halladay signed his extention with the Phillies, Cliff Lee became the top free agent on the 2010 market. He's coming off two Cy Young caliber seasons at age 29 and 30, but he was pretty pedestrian before that. While we're confident that Lee won't sign at a discount in Seattle, he's not CC Sabathia.
Josh Beckett might still work out a deal in Boston, but with his injury history (back and hands), the $85M deal the Sox just gave John Lackey, and the emergence of Jon Lester, the Red Sox might be willing to let Beckett take offers on the open market. Unless someone offers a Tom Hicks-Arod overpay, the Red Sox can be confident that they'll be able to match any final offer.
A year ago, Brandon Webb was the top pitcher on this list. As of December 2008, Webb had averaged 227IP for the last 5 seasons, a 1.25 WHIP, a sinker worth 0.6 HR/9IP, and 7.1K/9. An impingement in his shoulder left some people wondering if the D-backs would pick up his $8.5M option for 2010 (they did). We'll have another year to watch him try to ensure his career is more Mike Mussina and less Ben Sheets.
One thing we haven't talked about yet: the Yankees have to sign at least one of these starters. C.C. Sabathia will be a free agent after the 2011 season. He might not significantly beat his current deal in dollars, but just like Arod, he can find someone (maybe the Yankees) willing to extend it through the end of his career.
One thing I didn't like about last offseason was A.J. Burnett's deal. Yes, he was the second best starter on the market, and yes, the Yankee needed him. Everyone knew that. So the Yankees offered a 5th year ever though no one else was in that neighborhood. And this year Lackey wanted the same contract. The Yankees have less need this year, but someone was willing to give Lackey his price (in years; I really don't care about dollars).
One (or more) of the pitchers on this list are going to get a Sabathia/Santana deal. I'm not sure any of them are really worth those many years. But the Yankees backed themselves into a corner when the ink dried on Burnett's contract. As we've learned so many times, you can't spend your way out of mistakes- everything has to go right with the development of Joba and Hughes. I hope it's not asking for too much.
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Lee is preferred
but would want to avoid a huge contract if possible. But guess the Yankkes will have to sign a FA pitcher next year.
What are the other options for 2011 rotation?
1) Ink Sheets now and by the end of 2010 season he is back to being a premier pitcher and a rock for 2011.
2) Hughes. He has a starter’s mentality and better stuff. Joba has a fireman’s mentality. Joba is the set up man, then replacement for Rivera.
3) Zach McAllister, rhp, shows he can be an innings eater in the bigs.
Rotation in 2011 with no FA signing next off-season?
CC
Burnett
Sheets
Hughes
McCallister ( or other minor leaguer)
One issue
“C.C. Sabathia will be a free agent after the 2011 season.”
He has the option to opt-out, but I seriously doubt that he would walk. He’ll make $23MM in 2010 and ‘11. After that, he’d be walking away from 4 years and $92MM. Nobody else will pay him that many dollars, although he certainly could get 4 years at age 31.
It depends on the market landscape. It’s entirely possible that he may opt-out and attempt to sign a longer 5-7 yr. deal then.
by Scooby Snacks on Dec 21, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I could see him doing it tho...
merely just cuz its there in his contract.
A-Rod did it..and it guaranteed him $300 million (on top of the yacht load he made already).
CC’d probably be re-upped by the Yanks.
Guranteeing himself 7 years at age 31 is smarter than rolling with the 4 years.
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 21, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Just about every player who's had an opt-out
Has taken it. Manny this year was the exception because he knew nobody was giving him 20 mil after the steroid stuff. If C.C. has 2 more years like the one he just had he’s going to opt out and if he does the Yankees have to think seriously about whether it’s worth it to pay him 25 mil a year through age 40.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 21, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
CC
wont opt out of his contract. He seems to be pretty happy in pinstripes and also if he does opt out I guarantee he wont get a better contract than the one he has right now. And J.D. Drew had a career year and he is very injury prone so that was the best time to opt out. Sabathia will not opt out of his contract.
by Brooklynsoul on Dec 21, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
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Opt out…not to go somewhere else.
But to re-up with the Yankees for more money and years.
Its a smart decision for CC..and one I doubt he leaves on the table.
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3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 22, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
One thing about Alex
was that his 2007 was a great year: 54 HRs 156 RBI, and .314/ .422/ .645, up from his ‘04-07 average of 46 HRs and 136 RBI and 309/ .412/ .593. So unless CC has a simmilar type year, I think he stays put. WS ring doesn’t hurt either.
Cc is our rock....he's gonna retire a yankee...
Especially if he repeats his playoff performance…
I agree fully with a.j’s contract….I would of liked the last year to be a mutual option atleast….
I still want lee though….
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by NYYWinsRings27 on Dec 21, 2009 12:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Yankees are going to spend a lot of dollars next year
they will spend a ton to resign Jeter and Rivera (should he not retire). And also, I agree that it they should sign one of those big pitchers, preferably Cliff Lee.
Also, I don’t think CC will opt out, and if he does, he’ll still probably end up back in NY. The opt out was put there so CC could leave early if he didn’t like NY. It seems like he does (he’s moved to NYC full time). So I would not be surprised if he decides to play out his contract.
I’ll assume you’re not being facetious :) Thank you.
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CC isnt a free agent after 2011.
he has the ability to opt out. but why would he? he’s already the highest paid pitcher in baseball and he just won a ring. makes no sense.
and you’re wrong on AJs contract too. The Braves offered a 5th year as well.




















