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New York Yankees notes: All things Johnson

What does the Nick Johnson signing mean for the New York Yankees? Perhaps the best assessment comes from Tyler Kepner of the New York Times.

Losing [Johnny] Damon will hurt. Even General Manager Brian Cashman acknowledged on Thursday that Damon is "the perfect two-hole hitter for this place." The Yankees will miss Damon’s speed, his quality at-bats and his ability to put the bat on the ball. And they will miss his personality, of course. But the Yankees priced Damon at about $9-10 million per year, for two years at the most, and they believe they can live with Johnson. 

Johnson’s assets and drawbacks are obvious. The good: he’s a left-handed hitter, he knows the Yankees and he got on base at a better rate last year (.426) than everybody except Joe Mauer and Albert Pujols. The bad: he’s slow, he’s prone to injury, and he plays a position already occupied by Mark Teixeira

Then again, by keeping Johnson off the field, the Yankees can limit his risk of injury, and there is no rule that says Johnson would have to be the starting D.H. every day. The Yankees could use Jorge Posada, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter and Teixeira there as often as they like. Johnson, a happy-go-lucky guy, has been itching to play for a winner since the Yankees traded him to the Montreal Expos (remember them?) after the 2003 World Series. Also, there is this: next year’s free-agent class could be the best ever, with Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, Cliff Lee, Joe Mauer, Brandon Webb and Jayson Werth -– not to mention Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera. The Yankees figure to spend an awful lot of money in that market, and they want to save payroll and keep commitments short wherever they can. 

In the big picture, the Yankees are replacing Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui with Curtis Granderson and Johnson. So they swap two older left-handed hitters who made $26 million in 2009 for two younger left-handed hitters who will make about $14 million in 2010. They replace a speed guy and a slow guy with another speed guy and slow guy.

My take: I will miss Matsui and Damon, but I like the reasoning behind this. To me, that money is key. Both in terms of being able to bring in another starting pitcher this off-season and -- perhaps more importantly -- setting themselves up for a big splurge next winter. 

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About Damon

The apparently now former Yankee outfielder has no idea what will happen next for him. But, he is not bitter.

"I have nothing but great things to say about the Yankees. If the Nick Johnson thing works out, it will be good for them," Damon told the Daily News last night. "It's part of baseball.

"I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do. I know there are some teams interested, but the Yankees are the best organization I've been a part of so far in my career. I wish them all the best."

With the Yankees out of the picture, it will be interesting to see what kind of deal the 36-year-old Damon can get.

"I guess we'll have to see now if (agent Scott) Boras gets Damon a three-year contract," said a baseball official, who suggested the most likely landing spot for Damon will be San Francisco, although the Giants are unlikely to give him three years.

Granderson's day

The Yankees formally welcomed Granderson, in a news conference Thursday at Yankee Stadium. One of last season's big off-season prizes, CC Sabathia, was in attendance and his comments might have been the most intriguing of the day.

"I think earlier in his career, when he first came up, he was driving balls to left field, and I think he was tougher on lefties then," Sabathia said. "He was hitting the ball in the gap in left-center.

"Then he started hitting a few home runs and got a little pull-happy. I think that's why lefties were able to stay away from him and throw slower stuff and have success against him."

To help fix the situation, Granderson said that he'd like to talk to Sabathia about the way he was pitched -- two-seamers in and plenty of outs away, Sabathia said -- and also check with Robinson Cano, who has hit lefties well in his career.

But the most important advice will come from hitting coach Kevin Long, with whom Granderson spoke on Monday and is planning to see after he completes working out with outfielder Nick Swisher.

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Great piece by Kepner

It really makes me take my hat off to Cashman. Since he’s gotten effective control of the organization, the poor spending has been stopped.

While nobody knows whether Johnson and Granderson can match Damon and Matsui for clutchness, they certainly match up well on paper. I expect Johnson to have a career year and Grandy to benefit from a little swing engineering. Now we just need Joba to break out and the Yankees not to screw with Hughes’ head.

I always feel pressure. What I don't have is fear. -- El Duque

by LateInningRelief on Dec 18, 2009 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

It's obvious

that this was done with a plan in mind. Damon wasn’t going to budge, so they moved on.

by Ed Valentine on Dec 18, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Plans

I like it when the organization seems to be acting with a plan in mind. Like it made me happy to hear how much Cashman fought with ownership to convince them not to go after Santana when he was traded. He told them if they waited one year, he could get them Teixeira and Sabathia while allowing them to keep their young players.

by metric on Dec 18, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm interested to see what happens to Damon from here

Scott Boras has had a couple of swings and misses over the past few years.

In the 2006-07 offseason, Jeff Weaver rejected a 3-year offer of about $25 million from the Cardinals, and took a 1-year, $9 million deal from the Mariners. He went on to post a 6.20 ERA in 2007, and then a 6.17 ERA in the minors in 2008. In hindsight, he left $16 million on the table and is clearly never going to earn that again.

He did the same thing with Kevin Millwood, although it turned out better. I believe the Phillies offered him 3 years/$30 million and he rejected it, signing a one-year deal with the Indians instead. Millwood wound up leading the AL in ERA that year, and parlayed that into a 5-year deal with the Rangers.

It’s hard to say with Damon. He’s probably too old to sign a one-year deal in hopes of testing next years market, and at this point his skills are unlikely to be valued higher in next year’s market anyway. Who knows though. As it stands today, Melky Cabrera is the team’s starting left fielder. Perhaps there still is room for Damon, on the Yankees terms.

After the Yankees non-tendered Chien-Ming Wang, we were all worried about where we’d get our thinly-veiled penis jokes from next year. Thankfully, with the signing of Johnson that won’t a concern anymore.

by 3460kuri on Dec 18, 2009 8:50 AM EST reply actions  

As additional motivation

There’s no way Damon would want to enter the FA again next off-season, with the amount of competition he’ll get.

So at the minimum, he’d be asking for a 2 year deal, right? Perhaps that’s another reason why he’s looking for a 2 year deal.

And let’s not rule out anything, I’m sure if Damon and the Yankees meet halfway, he’ll be back. The Yankees will find a spot for him, just as long as Damon’s willing to give up on the fact he won’t get a 2 year deal, and he probably won’t get anything more than 10M.

This brings about a good question, if you were a professional athlete, would you go for the money and play for a bad team, or take a smaller contract to play for a winner?

by Vancouverguy on Dec 18, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the funniest thing I've ever read

After the Yankees non-tendered Chien-Ming Wang, we were all worried about where we’d get our thinly-veiled penis jokes from next year. Thankfully, with the signing of Johnson that won’t a concern anymore.

I wish we could continue to just show up and play for no reason. No umpires, no scorers. Just show up and have fun.
-- Alex Rodriguez

by dorsal on Dec 18, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Also, if the opportunity presents itself for a cheap FA or a trade, Johnson could easily be pushed into a part-time role or traded.
Damon had a no-trade, and unless I misremember, once you have a no trade there are very few ways to ever give it up.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Dec 18, 2009 8:53 AM EST reply actions  

That's another thing

Difficult to keep Matsui, then force him into a situation where he wouldn’t play every day.

by Ed Valentine on Dec 18, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I still believe that Johnny

might come around. His asking price is in the clouds which is the Boras MO, but signing Johnson does not mean the Yankees have closed the door on Damon. If Damon accepts a 2 year 20 million deal, he automatically goes in as the everyday left fielder. Johnson becomes what he was signed to become, the DH. Melky and Brett become the 4th and 5th OF’s with one most likely becoming Trade Fodder. Which I would prefer to be Brett.

by BigDanz2000 on Dec 18, 2009 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

Well

I think it’s pretty obvious the Damon door is closed. Anything else the Yankees do will involve bringing in more pitching.

by Ed Valentine on Dec 18, 2009 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

not necessarily

if nobody is willing to give Johnny what he wants, his price will have to come down, maybe even lower than what the Yankees would have been willing to give. I could see them giving him a lower deal if other teams don’t give him what he wants. Of course, we’d have to live with another year of him in LF, but it would be worth it. Think of what he makes this lineup.

Never say never. Again, now it’s unlikely that Johnny comes back, but the door is never closed. Remember, A-Rod was supposed to be gone after 2007 when he opted out, and now he’s back for 8 more years as of now. Anything can happen. I’m still hoping Johnny comes back (and Wang too).

by nyyrocks29 on Dec 18, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno how the Yanks can hold their cards in for next offseason already.

Out of the ones mentioned..only Crawford seems likely to reach the market. Mauer’s not gonna reach the market; new stadium, you think they’re getting rid of their best player?

I don’t think the Yankees are done. They’re more worried about winning the WS this year. While it does look like Grandy and Johnson are the 2 replacements….I dunno, I can’t see it.

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 18, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

Great article

And I hope the spending is done and saved for next year’s free agent pitching pool. Adding another starter this year is still an option…

by david d on Dec 18, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

I imagine they'll make a run at Crawford and maybe Lee

Carl Crawford is going to be 28 next year, and they could offer Lee (who would be just as old as Burnett when they signed him) a deal just north of what Halladay got (say 5 years, $110 million)…basically give him Andy’s money and find another $10 million somewhere. Crawford you could give Damon money ($15-18 million) for 6 years.

The real question: will Jeter & Rivera be “reasonable?” Jeter’s making $22 million next year…can you talk him down to 4-5 years of $15-18, with the knowledge that he might only be worth even that the next two?

by PortlandYankee on Dec 18, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

I Don't Get It

OK…so the Yankees signed Nick Johnson for $5.5 million to be the everyday DH. Hideki Matsui recently signed with the Angels for about $6.5 million to be their everyday DH. So the Yankees saved a million bucks. Question: Was it worth it? I would rather have spent the extra million or two on a one-year deal and brought Matsui back. It seems a bit callous to let the World Series MVP walk to save $1 million when your payroll is approaching $200 million.

This means Damon is almost certainly gone. Scott Boras did not serve him well. The Yankees would probably have given him $10 million a year for two years. Nobody in their right mind will give him more than that this off-season, and he will not have as good of a chance to win a World Series anywhere else. So I don’t know how Damon was helped by his steadfast insistence on a $13M, three-year contract; he is a 36-year-old who is a really good hitter, but is, at this stage, either a DH or one of the worst outfielders in baseball. I don’t see the logic from his perspective, but I do understand why the Yankees walked away from the table.

The Yankees now need another starter. The best healthy starter on the free agent market is Jarrod Washburn. I would offer him $9.5 million per year for two years, make him the fourth starter, bring Gaudin back as the fifth starter, and leave both Chamberlain and Hughes in the bullpen. It is time for the Yankees to accept the clear reality that everybody else has seen, which is that the experiment of making Joba into a starter has failed.

by albanyattorney40 on Dec 18, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

I'm ticked off right now

the Yankees give Nick Johnson this deal. But they could have given Hideki Matsui, the WS MVP, and a flat out better hitter than Nick Johnson, the EXACT SAME DEAL to DH? Well then, why not do it? I would have understood if Matsui didn’t come back if they expected on working something out with Damon or someone better (DeRosa, Bay, Holliday). But instead, they replace Matsui with Nick Johnson? And they are both receiving the exact same amount of money? And now, Johnson also signals the end of Johnny Damon in the Bronx, and I really wanted him back too.

I’m gonna be honest. I do not like this move. The Yankees gave up on a DH in Matsui too early, and they let him sign with another team. Now, because they sign this clown, that shows that they gave up on Johnny Damon when he’s still a FA and there is still time for his price to go down (and it almost certainly will). So instead of Matsui and/or Damon, they get Nick Johnson? I don’t like it.

by nyyrocks29 on Dec 18, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

i hope theyre not done

i love the piece. i see granderson going to bat leadoff, & moving jeter to #2. he was once considered the best leadoff hitter in baseball a couple years ago. he returns to that hitter, with jeter behind him, jeter may actually end up with 100 rbis too. but, i see a hole at #5. as of right now, i see either posada or swisher batting there. i like swisher, but to me, hes a great guy to have coming off bench. theres a 22 year old lefty slugger with a swing made for yankee stadium kind of rotting in cincinnatti right now. his name is jay bruce. talk about trading for someone who will be a fixture for yankees! ill just throw 15 years out there, at least. now, people havent liked my suggestion of who to trade for him. i say trade joba straight up for him. lets face it, he’ll never be their ace. maybe a # 3 at best. i would just hope no one signs wang before they realize that mistake. how could you just let him walk? what would it have cost you, 5, 6 mil? yet, girardi’s always saying "you cant have enough pitching. i believe wang & cabrera arent exactly girardi guys, so to speak. in fact, throw gardner in with joba for bruce, so girardi doesnt have to think about screwing around with what works, cabrera. besides, when they go get crawford next winter, im sure cabrera will understand alot better than that hard headed gardner. another deal id love to see them go after, jeff johnson will not be resigning with marlins. you may have to take uggla with him, but theres another to trade for pitching. what will it cost? we have 3 very good catchers in farm. so, how about sanchez or romine. zach mccallister im sure fla would love. if gardner doesnt go in bruce deal, throw him in there also. remember, fla doesnt want salary. im sure that should be enough to get him. now, you have cc, burnett & johnson at top of rotation, with pettitte behind them. so, youd have to find a #5. shouldnt be that big a problem. but. to have 4 who pretty much should win no less than 15 each, pitching staff is done. if you like, next winter, go after 1 of those big 3, to replace pettitte, who i believe, if they win it all again, will retire. & whatever you do, please dont mess with hughes like you did joba. hes the heir apparent for mo when he retires. i believe their using sense in doing what theyre doing. they have to get younger. & they are, & will, yet continue to stay on top. ill miss matsui alot more than damon. any time he came up, with us needing a big hit, he most of the time came through. granderson will shine hitting in this lineup, just like he did when tigers lineup was so good. he is a .300+ hitter, who triples! he had that year with 20 or more doubles, triples, home runs & stolen bases! & plays a great cf. nick johnson, i remember him being a pretty good clutch hitter, or, unlike damon at times, rally killer. nick doesnt try to do more than he can. if a pitcher throws him something to drive, he drives it. if its something to slap into lf, he’ll do that too. or, he’ll just let him walk him. i like nick. & he wont be playing field, for all you who keep coming up with his injuries. i like what theyre doing. now, if skipper joe just takes it easy with over managing, we’ll be ok. youve got a great mix of veteran players here. let them do what they do. but oh, i salivated when i heard about granderson. make jay bruce happen, i may splurt from somewhere else!

by dannybo249 on Dec 18, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

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