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With some of the comments I've read tonight, you'd think the Red Sox had just won the World Series while the Yankees were swept out of the LDS.

Don't panic! The Red Sox basically exchanged Jason Bay for Mike Cameron. Is Cameron, a 37-year-old former steroid user, really an upgrade?

Adding John Lackey makes them a better team, no question, but did y'all expect them to do nothing this off-season? What it probably means is that they're going to let Josh Beckett walk after 2010. They also lost Billy Wagner. Say what you will about him, but he's dominant when healthy (one season with an ERA over 3.00, 12 K/9 ip).

The Yankees are the defending champs. The Red Sox are the chasers, the Yankees are the chasees.

I would've been a lot more concerned if Boston acquired Roy Halladay.

You never know what will happen. The Yanks didn't have Mark Teixeira until late December of last year. Johnny Damon, Matt Holliday, Jason Bay and Vlad Guerrero are still out there. So are Ben Sheets, Justin Duchscherer and Erik Bedard. If those guys are healthy, they'll be as good as Lackey at a fraction of the price.

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They clearly have a better rotation than us, but we have a vastly superior offense, and if either of Joba or Hughes figure it out this year, they would pretty much lose their pitching advantage. I’m not worried =)

by Wraithpk on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

Unless Lackey gets hurt

Cant see how those three are just as good. If anyone thinks Holliday or Bay is a better signing than Lackey, you are nuts. And the Mets are going to be in on one of these guys pretty hard, they have to. I hope we get Bay over Holliday.

by YankeesJets on Dec 14, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

That's not even the worse news!

A-Rod and Kate Hudson broke up This is like totally the worse news ever. Now what terrible actress will they cut to when the cameramen get bored!?

In news that matters, the Yankees won the World Series, not any of these other teams. They have to play catchup to a team that had 103 wins when we missed A-Rod for a month+, Posada was injured, and Wang was an auto-win for the other team.

by Monotonousblob on Dec 14, 2009 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

we missed A-Rod for a month+, Posada was injured, and Wang was an auto-win for the other team.

great points. Arod for the whole year. Wang not giving up 20 runs/game. that’s another 5 or so wins right there.

by Travis G on Dec 14, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You kid? I think not

A Kate-less A-rod will revert. This break-up is the biggest baseball news of the day. I (gulp) shudder to think….

PS- Sayanora Hideki. Thanks for the memories!!!!

by rosebud on Dec 15, 2009 3:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Susan Boyle!

she is perfect for A Rod…whenever he gets flustered she will sing to him:)

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Dec 15, 2009 6:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Pft....

FK the Red Sox.

Been saying it for weeks, I don’t care what they do…and yea, Lackey counts for that (cuz Halladay did too…).

Lackey is a nice move. Congrats….means nothing to what the Yanks had to do this offseason

Lackey wasn’t on their radar. Either was Halladay…they were looking at em…but….no.

They’ll do something. Holliday. Sheets? Probably something different.

Lets play the damn season?

These POS’s had the best staff in April-June last year too didn’t they?

FK the Red Sox. Means nothing to me.

You don’t think the Yankees can beat the Red Sox, turn in your fan-card.

"It ain't over till its over"---

How come no one covers Steve Smith?

by FreeBradshaw on Dec 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions  

Fire Girardi!

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Dec 15, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

We’ve used that so much that I’ve lost track of whether we use it as satire anymore.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Dec 15, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Bradshaw seemed too distracted to remember it and it seemed to fit.

It’s satire though I like Joe G

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Dec 15, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Would you be happier

if we kept Matsui/Damon and added Lackey, or are you happier with getting Grandy saying bye to Matsui, and so far not bringing back Damon? Dont bring your hatred of the Sox into it either. Last week Lackey was god, now he is nothing special.

by YankeesJets on Dec 15, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

St. Lous just offered Holliday 8/126.

 Holy Shit.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions  

Even Scott Boras should be satisfied by that

Holliday is a great player, but I think that is a HUGE overpay.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Dec 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah no crap. Insane.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Dec 15, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I personally thought the Cards had started out the bidding too high

when they offered him 6/96. Are they just bidding against themselves or what?

And if this is a serious offer then I don’t want too see him anywhere near the Yanks at that price.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Dec 15, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Hope Holliday likes playing on a losing team

If that deal is accurate, and Albert gets 30 mill a year soon, how much will they have to spend on the rest of the team? They didnt win last year at regular rates with Holliday, and great pitching.

by YankeesJets on Dec 15, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

We overpaid for Tex dammit! Him and Holliday are equals.

by Scooby Snacks on Dec 15, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I'm biased but I think that Tex is better

and if I’m not mistake, a year younger. But at the tail end of his deal of course he isn’t going to be worth it, but it was the only way we were going to get him.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Boras prolly isn't happy with the deal yet.

he prolly wants 8 yrs 140 mil and an island paradise

by lololol on Dec 15, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

When Scott Boras retires

can you imagine the party that will be thrown by every GM in the game?

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Dec 15, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Afraid not. His minions will just pick up the baton.

by Scooby Snacks on Dec 15, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Why wouldnt he be worth it towards the end

Tex has helped get one title already. He will be a good first baseman for years to come, and he is better than Holliday.

by YankeesJets on Dec 15, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't want him. Don't need him.

Pitching. Oh and something else… oh yeah. pitching. We got the bats we need, even without Hideki (miss him already though).

Geez I wish JobaHughes would step up. Anyway, lookin forward to kikin Lak’s ass again in a dfrnt shade of red.

by rosebud on Dec 15, 2009 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

All the Yankees have to do...

Preferrably get Damon for 2 years 18 million or so to play in left and DH so that Posada can DH days that Damon isn’t. Sign Ben Sheets to a 1 year deal with incentives, something like 8 million as base salary since Harden got 7ish. If we have Hughes or Joba in the pen and one as the 5th starter, plus Grand Central in center with these other moves we should be just as good and likely better than last year. If Hughes needs an innings limit we have Gaudin to spot start.

by KingHenrik on Dec 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST reply actions  

If Damon won’t resign then get a lefty who can hit for power like Delgado to put in the 5th spot (I would’ve preferred holding onto Matsui for this scenario.)
A Rotation of:
1. Sabathia
2. Burnett
3. Sheets
4. Pettitte
5. Hughes/Joba
(6.) Gaudin

With this Pen:
Aceves
Gaudin
Robertson
Marte
Hughes/Joba
Rivera

And the offense we have would be pretty unstoppable.

by KingHenrik on Dec 15, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s just an example.

by KingHenrik on Dec 15, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t speak of any juggernaut, I said the pitching that we would have plus our offense which would be minus Matsui but +Granderson would still be up to par of last seasons team.

by KingHenrik on Dec 15, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

As of this moment I dont think our team is as good as it was last year

But I do think the Sox have a better team than they did in 2009. I know because everyone on here has to speak with bias, Lackey makes the Sox worse. Cant there ever be a realistic point of view? Know wonder why everybody hates Yankees fans.

by YankeesJets on Dec 15, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Hi, visiting Angel fan wandering about the sportscape

I thought we were the only ones freaking out over at Halosheaven — the Angel blog on SB nation. Granted, you guys will now have to face our former workhorse, Lackey, but the only real loss you guys are feeling today is Matsui going down the tubes. If the Yankees FO wants to spend the cash, Bay/Holliday is/are as good as in the outfield; your pitching, though even older, was good enough to breeze through the playoffs to a World Series Title.

Just think how badly other teams in the majors were owned.

To focus on just such a team, look at the Angels. In one day the following crap storm rained down:
1) We lost our former ace to our most hated playoff rival (and the biggest reason we beat the BoSox this year)
2) We not only lost out on the Halladay card but
3) the Lee card as well. Not just losing out on Lee, but he was TRADED INTO OUR DIVISION.
4) And to stop the hemorrhaging from our own team and the FA market, we sign an aging power outfielder who is prone to injury and in the latter half of his 30s,
5) who all but decimates the chances that fan-favorite, Vlad, will return.

Note: Even with all this, Halladay is no longer in your division. Lackey does indeed upgrade the Bosox, but they’re still nowhere near a deep-playoff team. And it’s only mid-December! There are still bats out there, and they’re all following the buck, meaning the reigning WS champs have the best chance to sign.

Count your blessings, and your World Series rings, New York. Things are looking good for you on that coast of the US.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Dec 15, 2009 2:24 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, and tell Rev he sucks

Notice how you posted over here and didn’t get banned? That’s NY freedom of speech. You might want to remind Rev Stalin what that’s like.

by rosebud on Dec 15, 2009 3:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh, he's banned me before

He’s pretty quick to the trigger sometimes, with which I don’t personally agree. Buuut, it’s his site and he can take his ball and go home if he so chooses.

I always thought there should be more encouraging of inter-board posting, if for no other reason than to keep the posters on their toes.

by shiftyeyedgoat on Dec 15, 2009 4:05 AM EST up reply actions  

We try to welcome anyone

Obviously, some days are better than others. But you’re always welcome to be part of the discussion.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Dec 15, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't even care

I never cared about Lackey or Halladay or Holliday or anyone else with a “ay” as part of their last name. Wang and Matsui are gone and that’s all that matters!

So far, this offseason has been nothing but heartache. I know I’m whining, but seriously…I want my Mat back!

I’ve supported Cashman through the good times and the bad, but I’m pissed that we let two amazing talented guy go. We better get something in return. That’s all I’m gonna say…

(I might be PMSing too…so that sort of affects my mood right now. Screw it. I think I’m allowed to me mad at this)

by jigglytuffy on Dec 15, 2009 4:02 AM EST reply actions  

Best wishes Godzilla

Sad to see you go my friend…thank you for representing this great city with class…I for one will be on my feet when you step to the plate for the first time back at The Stadium.

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Dec 15, 2009 6:08 AM EST reply actions  

Matsui was smart

to take the Angels deal. Now I just hope Cash doesn’t exchange one creaky-kneed DH for another in Vlad. Let’s bring Damon back down to earth and resign him for 2/22. And forget about worrying about Boston—Seattle has as good a 1-2 punch as anybody now.

I always feel pressure. What I don't have is fear. -- El Duque

by LateInningRelief on Dec 15, 2009 6:15 AM EST reply actions  

It's December.

You never worry about the other team in April and you certainly don’t give a damn in December!!!

By the time August rolls around, teams will have had injuries, players traded and new players brought in to help. Wake me when that happens…..zzzzzzzzz

As for Matsui, great player, great guy, great Curry House in NYC called Go Go Curry is named after him and his number 55. Go there and eat and you will be eternally happy!!!!

Yanks did the right thing though…..not signing him. They need to make space to rotate players in the DH role. He can’t play the OF, and the day the Angels stick him out there and he injures his knee is the day we’ll think about why they didn’t just keep him as DH.

Farewell Matsu!!! We’ll miss ya!

by Ragnar808 on Dec 15, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

Cash must be looking forward to next year's free agent class

It appears that both Cliff Lee and Josh Beckett will now hit the open market next year. I just hope the Yanks get a solid fourth starter (Piniero, Marquis) instead of a lottery ticket (Sheets). Unless Boston trades for another bat, I think their offense has gotten worse. Bay for Cameron? Lowell for Beltre? The Sux are loading up on suspected juicers.

by upstateNYYFan1984 on Dec 15, 2009 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

The Sux are loading up on suspected juicers

That’s to replace Manny and Papi; I also think that Lackey was hired to take the “horse’s ass” spot in the rotation vacated by Schilling.

by d_c_guy on Dec 15, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The horse's ass comment is funny,

but not entirely apt. Lackey is a driven competitor like Schilling — a guy who shouts into his glove, throws Gatorade around the dugout, etc. But when it comes to doling out marginally informed comments about politics, baseball, whatever, nobody will ever be the horse’s ass Schilling is.

I always feel pressure. What I don't have is fear. -- El Duque

by LateInningRelief on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Dec 15, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Pineiro and Marquis...

Aren’t solid starters. They’re guys who had good contract years in the National League. Their total body of work stinks and they’re 5.50 ERA’s waiting to happen in the AL East.

It looks like Boston’s Lowell trade will fall through because he needs thumb surgery. That probably eliminates Beltre from their plans. They’ll try their best to get Adrian Gonzalez and if they can’t they’ll sign Nick Johnson. If they don’t get A-Gon this is definitely not a classic Red Sox offense. The idea of facing Beckett-Lester-Lackey in the ALCS isn’t an appealing one, but if the offenses stay the same as they are their pitchers have a much tougher job than ours do.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 15, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

do not agree

Look at sheets first,#1 stuff if healthy and should sign for less yrs.Piniero and Marquis are nice #4 or 5 starters in the AL but Sheets stuff is every bit as good as CCs when he is healthy and on track.Big upside,the other two are what they are.We have two guys now who have better upside if they can figure it out.Not saying they would not help but Sheets could possibly dominate a playoff series.

by cashman bashman on Dec 15, 2009 10:36 AM EST reply actions  

New to pinstripe alley...

I am a regular at blueshirt banter but since watching the rangers is worse than taking a flame torch to your eyeballs I though I would get my Yankee hot stove fix. I’m all for a Ben Sheets signing. I think he has the same track record for injuries as burnett and deserves a chance to show the league what he can so. I think you can pencil him in for a 13-9 record with a 3.85 era. As for Damon he is a must sign now that matsui is gone. I think a very under the radar move would be to sign Mark Derosa…. He is extremely versatile and plays everywhere but catcher. Boston doesn’t scare me and there has got to be something wrong with lackey that only the angels know about because he took the first FA offer that came his way and never allowed teams to bid. But boy the Boston offense looks horrible. Can’t wait for Easter Sunday night at fenway!

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