Aroldis Chapman?
Roy Halladay is heading to the Phillies, and out of the AL (thank god). John Lackey is heading to the Sox. The two big pitchers that were on the market are now gone. If the Yankees wanted to sign a big pitcher, well, their chance is over.
Cashman still, however, has some pitchers to look at. One is Ben Sheets, who would be a good option in my mind. He'd be low priced with a ton of upside. Remember, he's the one who started for the NL in the All-Star Game at the Stadium in 2008. Another is Justin Duchscherer. Although I would prefer he doesn't come to the Yanks because of the depression issues. NY could kill him. Anybody who has had depression issues who's name isn't Grienke should not be considered. Chien-Ming Wang, although I still don't want to give up hope that he could be back, looks like he's leaving as well. I really hope he comes back. Look at the guy 2 years ago. Injuries, and all of a sudden they give up on him? I hope, if he doesn't come back, it doesn't bite the Yankees back.
There is another option though. A little more expensive than some of these, but it could work out. That man is Aroldis Chapman. The Cuban Defector is 21 years old (VERY young). Throws 100 miles an hour. Has the ability to be a dominant, front line pitcher in the major leagues. He's the type of pitcher that would succeed in the postseasosn. I actually think that the Yankees have a good shot to get him. Here's why.
The number of teams willing, or that have the ability to, pay Chapman just went down, as the Phillies and Red Sox probably are out of that now that they have each gotten and signed big pitchers (I'll be shocked if Halladay doesn't sign a huge extension). The Yankees still have that ability. And with less teams to compete with, they have a better shot at it.
Chapman recently also fired his agent. His replacement is the Hendricks brothers, who represent Andy Pettitte. I have heard that the Yankees have very good relations with the Hendricks brothers. When you're friendly with a persons agent, I'm sure it always helps.
The Yankees need for a pitcher, I think, is higher than many of the other teams that can pay him. Cash has constantly said, pitching, pitching, pitching, pitching. Thats his goal. To improve pitching. The Yankees rotation right now if CC, A.J., Andy, Hughes, Joba. Not good after the first three. We have no idea how Hughes and Joba will perform. And if there are the "Hughes rules", then there is no way that Hughes is in the rotation all year. Plus, there are injury possibilities. The Yanks are thin in pitching depth right now. They could use someone like Chapman on board.
I'm not sure how much this last one has to do with anything, but Aroldis Chapman visited Yankee Stadium and watched during the World Series. He has already experienced what the atmosphere of playing at Yankee Stadium is (and he should know that no other ballpark compares). Maybe after seeing that, he wants to play in that atmosphere? Thats complete speculation, but you never know.
I really think that the Yankees have a better chance to get him than most people think. Do I want him? Only at the right price. They should negotiate, and not overpay, because he is unproven in the majors. Maybe around 15 million should be their ceiling? I don't know. However, he does have a world of talent. He's young. And, at the right price, it's a risk I would think that the Yankees should be willing to take. Thoughts?
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not too much $$.
I’d rather not make a reactionary move after the flurry of moves. The only one to note is the Red Sox deal, and them getting Lackey doesn’t scare me.
Wait it out, get someone like Sheets(incentive laden, short deal with an option).
They’ll do something tho.
Matt Holliday’s name is eerily silent right now going to the Yanks.
No Mats, no Damon….That $$ can go to Holliday?
Grandy, Holliday, Sheets?
The DH spot is a bit of a revolving door?
…As long as the Holliday deal is reasonable and not very very long term (preferably 4 years…but maybe 5-6 years with an option in the middle of it?)
Definitely, no need to go crazy here.
Having Granderson is gonna make up for a whole lot of the production of those who left.
If we sign Holliday….damn. Sign Sheets and hope for the best? Damn.
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
Damon still may come back
is Matsui officially an Angel then?
I’ll miss the guy. I’ll never forget his last game. He’ll definitely be cheered when he comes back to the Bronx. Take notes Sox fans. You cheer the players who help you win championships.
Aroldis Chapman will not help this year.
If he did, I’d be surprised.
I’d be pissed cuz Joba and Hughes didn’t make a case for themselves too.
So….even $15 mill is too much.
I’d say 12-13, if not, tell em to FK off.
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
The price matters
Clay over at BP projected Chapman as topping out as a relief pitcher, or the equivalent of Oliver Perez if he stayed as a starting pitcher.
ah.
Oliver Perez?
I hear that name….STAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
really?
then maybe they shouldn’t sign him. Or sign him to be a Joba-like reliever for less money (highly unlikely).
If they’re comparing him to Oliver Perez, then there’s no way he should be asking for this much money.
Chapman's age
is chapman actually 21? i think that he may turn out to be around 23 ish.
Chapman needs at the VERY minimum
a year of seasoning in the minors. All he has right now is a blazing fastball with a get-me-over breaking ball and poor control. He has a great arm but there’s no way he’s ready. While this doesn’t mean that the Yankees shouldn’t look at him, he isn’t even the conversation for solutions to the rotation in 2010.
This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.
Andy, CC, Jorge and Cerveli Can Mentor him
-Give him 2 years with a option 3rd. Hire El Duque to help him stay under 30yrs old for the next 15 years.
-I still like Bedard as the 5th. Again another Andy/CC apprentice.
-We still need a big bat, in case Sox roll Clay for Adrian Gonzo.
Chapman won’t be pitching in the majors for any team if he gets signed. He’s 21 and his stuff is very, very raw. He’ll need to go through the minor league system to refine his game. And then from there, it’s anyone’s guess.
Although I do enjoy the suggestion of hiring El Duque so he’d still be a 21 year old 15 years from now.
Play today, win today, ‘das it.
can someone please explain...
what exactly are the rules for signing an international free agent? if we were to sign him for say around 16-17 million would that money come in the form of bonuses, count on our major league payroll or what?
most of the time
the big money is in a bonus. that way the Yanks can avoid his salary counting toward the luxury tax.
as far as rules for IFAs – there really aren’t any. teams can spend whatever they want for IFAs, the same as ML FAs.
Pitching needs
I think the Yanks would be better off and save some $ for elsewhere if they signed Bedard and Sheets. Sheets is a major gamble but when healthy can be a dominate force on the mound and that was for a struggling Brew crew. With the offensive power and defense behind him he would surely make a top notch 4th starter and on most teams he is being looked at for a 2nd or 3rd starter. Bedard is a solid find and allows us to keep Joba in the pen where he can survive with one pitch. Chapman may be a gem but our past has not been to kind to us when dealing with top stars from Cuba (El Duque, good but not worht the hype he produced).
El Duque
Duque was great for us in 98 and he was our #1 starter in 99. Unfortunately after that being 67 years old caught up with him. He was probably the best Yankee international free agent ever besides Matsui.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Dec 19, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions

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