Lackey to sign with Boston?
Ken Rosenthal says he's taking a physical and is close to an agreement with the Sox.
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Panic Trade?
Are the Yankees going to trade for Halladay now to counter?
i'd rather sign
Sheets or Duchscherer to a one-year deal. if Lackey goes to Boston, it probably means no Halladay for them. as long as Roy doesn’t go to Boston, i’m fine.
panic?
at this?
The hell are we panicking for?
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, this just means they wouldn’t be able to sign any big-name hitters. They’ll have great pitching, and no offense.
They could trade for A Gonz.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Dec 14, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
no offense?
Typical ignorant Yankee fan – the Sox scored the 3rd highest number of runs last year. Do some research.
congrats.
I’m sure he knew…
and like me, could give a crap.
Most of those runs were from April to July anyway, so go piss on the Monster why don’t ya?
"It ain't over till its over"---
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
is lackey really that good?
another typical yankee fan – all players on the yankees are incredible, yet nobody else is ‘really that good’. AJ Burnett was a GREAT signing last year, right? He’s injury prone and had a career record of 87-76 (.533 Win Pct) when he signed with the Yanks. Lackey, who “isn’t really that good”, has a career record of 102-71 (.590 Win Pct). Oh, and should I even point out that Lackey has a better career ERA, while spending his entire career in the AL, and AJs higher ERA is helped by him spending most of his career in the weak NL. Like I told Wraithpk when I schooled him, do some research.
injury prone?
Red Sox just bought another player?
Got scared of the Yanks and over paid?
"It ain't over till its over"---
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sheets
I don’t see him accepting an incentive-laiden 1 year deal, Duke I can see but I would prefer to have Sheets.
Duke.
great way to shorten it. much better than douche.
LAckdog is 32
with arm problems. Good.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
Good for him.
This doesn’t concern me in the least.
by New York Sports Jerk on Dec 14, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions
If we can sign Sheets and he is healthy
he has the physical ability to be as good if not better than Lackey. I’d take a chance on a 1 yea deal with Sheets than 5 with Lackey.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
If it’s true, I want to see the dollars and years involved.
Lackey is a very good pitcher, when healthy, and I feel like his injury history is overblown because he is the #1 pitcher on the market. He’d be the ace on all but a handfull of clubs in the league.
Boston got better, but that’s no reason to panic and overpay for a counter-move (see Igawa, Kei).
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Adrian Gonzalez
I don’t see how the Red Sox can place their hopes in Adrian Gonzalez to fix their hitting problems.
First of all, he’s a first baseman, something they have a plethora of. Even if Youkillis switches to 3rd, they still have Victor Martinez and Adrian Gonzalez battling for a 1st base spot ( I don’t see V-Mart catching full-time).
And he’s from San Diego. The NL West. Do they need a reminder of how Halladay did in Oakland? If the Red Sox really got Lackey, and they place their hopes in Adrian Gonzalez…well, the AL East is as good as ours.
They do have V-Mart penned in to be their starting catcher.
Petco Park is by and large a pitcher’s park. Therefore, Gonzalez’ bat would perform very well at Fenway. Matt Holliday’s time spent in Oakland was a very small sample size.
by Scooby Snacks on Dec 14, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still not buying it. It’s the NL, and a lot of stat’s show that free agents coming from the NL, especially the NL West, will perform a lot worse in the AL. It’s not a given, but that’s usually the way it goes.
I’m not saying he won’t be great, he did hit 40HR in Petco Park last year, but, in my opinion, it’s a lot bigger risk than the Red Sox think it is. High-Risk, High-Reward, if they do trade for him.
The sox...
were 3rd in the A.L. in runs scored, and that was with varitek in the lineup for the better part of the year.
Our defense will be improved (slightly) with scutaro at short, and lowell was awful at third. Youk should be better, i dont have a proper gauge on a.gonz defense.
This is all assuming we sign a mike cameron or a matt holliday, both of which would improve on bays god awful defense.
by beantownboy171 on Dec 14, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
ok, about HOLLIDAY, not HALLADAY...
there is no debate about how he did in oakland. i pray that what i am typing is the last word on the issue and that it is never brought up again: holliday was good in oakland. stat: .831 OPS. He needed a month to adjust to a new league, then he was good.
BoSox rotation
Say what you will, Beckett, Lackey, Lester, Dice K and Bucholtz is one very tough rotation.
Yanks are unproven after first three and gambling that among Chamberlain, Hughes, Gaudin, Mitre, Aceves and whomever two quality starters will emerge.
Not sure about that.
by MSP Giant on Dec 14, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
As I said in my recap of Boston’s offseason a few weeks ago, they’ve had a ton of money come off the books in the last 2 seasons. I expect to them plow it back into the team in the next couple of years.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
how can you say DiceK and Buchholz
are part of a great rotation, but Joba and Hughes are question marks. frankly, they ALL are.
that front three could be great, but have you looked at DiceK and Buchholz. DiceK has been an extremely lucky pitcher. he walks 4.5/9 and seems to throw 110 pitches/5 ip every game. his career FIP is 4.27, basically an above average starter.
Buchholz’ career FIP is 4.51. his career ERA+ is 95. what’s to be afraid of with those? hughes and joba could easily be better than them.
If dice-k is above average like you said,
then i’m pretty happy he’s our fourth starter. as for buchholz, at this point in his career stats don’t matter because of his small sample size. give him a full year and then we can talk.
we have CC.
No…we don’t.
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
I seriously don’t want to see Montero go, and he’s the only constant that the Blue Jays want.
We’re still better than the Red Sox. People forget that, but we are still a better team, with better depth.
In short, we have pitching AND offense. The Red Sox have pitching, which is only a little better than ours.
yup.
and what does a 1-4 of Beckett, Lackey, Lester, Dice-K and Buchholz do?
WOW…..
good on paper.
Lets see what goes on when those guys get injured, like they are all prone to do (or at least Buchholze will break down at some point).
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
The sox were 3rd in the league in run scored.
If they can return with the same lineup about, improved with scutaro, made worse by lowell and bay’s replacement, beltre and (cameron, holliday).
We’ll still be quite formidable.
by beantownboy171 on Dec 14, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Scutaro?
vs. Lowell?
Cameron?
Holliday will be as good or better than Bay…but Cameron?
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
I LOL at them thinking Scutaro is their offensive answer. The guy has been a below average hitter his entire career. He had a career year last year where he was barely above average. Odds are he’s going to dip back to his career averages, or even lower since he’s 35.
he's not a bad SS.
He’s solid.
…..so was Edgar Renteria before he went to the black hole for SS.
"It ain't over till its over"---
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
how lucky are we
to actually have a great shortstop? I love thinking about the Red Sox shortstop problems for years, and then looking at the Yankees having Jeter. And A-Rod, who I’m sure could still play short better than anybody the Sux plug in over there.
ARod
can also play short better than Jeter – always has – but Jeter’s too selfish to give up the position – always has been. And to everybody else, since when is scoring the 3rd most runs in the AL with the best pitching staff (now) a bad thing?
it's not
Sox have a great team, and it will be difficult to get passed them next year. Their pitching staff, starting pitching wise, is great. They are definitely an improved team. However, Yanks will be too. It will be another fun race.
As far as Jeter goes, I do agree that he was too selfish to give up the position, and it is one of the only selfish things Jeter has ever done. However, I’m not upset by it. A-Rod probably plays third better than Jeter would have as well. Alex is a better defender than Derek, and that probably would hold true for either position. I do like having A-Rod’s cannon for an arm over at third base.
A run prevented is worth the same as a run scored.
Lackey is replacing Bay. The Sox will have great pitching next year and a decent offense (Youkilis, Pedroia, Drew, and Victor Martinez aren’t going anywhere). They will probably pick up a third basemen to replace Lowell (Beltre?). They will be tough but I don’t see how they made up 9 games on the Yankees yet.
David Ortiz had a resurgence the second half last season. Can’t count him out. VMart over Varitek’s toothpick for the whole year. Added Marcus Scutaro. Adrian Gonzales? Adrian Beltre? The Sox have upgraded.
by Scooby Snacks on Dec 14, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
As a Sox fan
I agree that we haven’t made up 9 games on the Yankees yet, but that’s not our goal. The Yankees panic when the Sox make moves, not the other way around. Once you get into the playoffs, anything can happen, and that ‘anything’ usually stems from Starting Pitching.
wait...
your a Sox fan?
"It ain't over till its over"---
How come no one covers Steve Smith?
by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
must be.
Skewed view of the world and all….
"It ain't over till its over"---
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Thats unfortunate
Red Sox have a tough rotation now. Yankees don’t after the first three. I’m not worried though. There’s still time for Cash to sign some more effective starters. And Joba, after a season of rest, and getting his mind straight, and going into a season with no limitations, will be better off as well.
Cash only has some B-line starters to look at now. Ben Sheets, and CHIEN-MING WANG!!!!! Look at those two guys. Particularly that Wang guy, who was an ace on the Yankees a year and a half ago.
I will seriously be heartbroken, especially after this, if Cash lets Wang go an it comes back to bite him when he watches Wang return to his old self with another team.
Yeah, Wang pitching in the New Yankee Stadium is not a good idea
Who is he gonna bite? Cashman wouldve resigned him if he had anything left. If anything Cash is being decent by not putting out there how messed up Wang might be. Not just injury wise, his confidence looked shot too.
Funny
the Red Sox signed a free agent, but I don’t hear any talk about how they are “buying players” and trying to “buy” a championship. Yet you heard some of that when the Yankees TRADED for Granderson. Isn’t that weird?
The Red Sox payed him with the grit,
gut and passion that keeps Fenway standing.
Lackey was not signed for anything more than that.
"It ain't over till its over"---
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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 14, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Boston doesn't pay
for players. Red Sox are so honored to play with the ‘B’ on their unis that they pay Boston!
Some of these posts are nuts
Sheets is better than Lackey? Based on what? Do you guys realize Lackey is going to be Bostons number 3? He could be a #1 on any other team. I am a huge Pettitte fan but he isnt getting any younger. If the Sox do get Lackey, they will be tough to beat. I dont care if they lose Bay, Pitching is more important than hitting. And our big move is Granderson. Hope he can pitch, cause Hughes will be hampered by stupid rules, Joba is not a good starter, and Gaudin/Mitre are nothing but a pair of retreads.
I know we were the best in 09
That season is over now. They have a better pitching staff. Do you realize if we lose Damon to go along with Matsui, how much production we have lost? I wanted to get younger too, but I am not enamored with a line up that has a bottom 4 guys that cant hit with risp(Cano), cant hit lefties and is a strikeout king(Grandy), Swisher who is like a box of chocolates, and then Melky/Gardner. And no, Grandy shouldnt be hitting leadoff or second.
rmarx
You do realize that by saying the Yankees don’t care about Minor League players while guys like Jeter and Mo are playing on our team, completely destroys any credibility you had at all. (Not that you had much). Go back to Lala land, where the big market teams pretend they’re small market and a big green wall is justified.
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