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When you are talking about the New York Yankees, we know that the discussion always comes back to the money that the Yankees make. and, of course, that they spend.

I have learned to live with it. The Yankees have unmatched resources, and I am thrilled that they choose to use them in an effort to win. The Steinbrenners have never simply looked at the Yankees as a business to profit from.

That is why I hate revenue sharing, though it is something I have to live with. and, as a Yankee fan I find cries about the need for a salary cap to be little more than whining from fans of teams who have badly run organizations, or owners who don't care about winning.

With that as background, I was fascinated by a recent article in the Biz of Baseball which shows that many teams around baseball are simply taking their revenue-sharing dollars from the Yankees, Red Sox and anyone else who has to pay and putting them in the bank.

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This year, approx. $400 million will be distributed from high revenue making clubs such as the Yankees and Red Sox to those at the low end of the spectrum, such as the Marlins, Pirates, Rays, and Royals.

Revenue-sharing figures for each of the 30 clubs have not been leaked to the media since 2002-2003, and 2005 (see the complete set of figures), which saw revenue transfers of $169 million, $220 million, and $308.4 million respectively.

So, just over $190 million more in revenues will move between payors and payees this year compared to the last year that full figures were available in 2005, an increase of 22.9 percent.

Looking back at the figures from 2005, the Rays had the highest level of revenue-sharing funds come their way at $33 million. Since 2005, the revenue-sharing formula has become far more complex than in the prior CBA, using a system that looks at trailing years of revenues, and other factors. But, for discussion sake, if we look at the largest receiver of revenue-sharing funds over the life of the data we have (Expos for 2002-2003, and Rays in 2005), we could apply an approx. 3 percent increase from then to now. That would give the team receiving the most revenue-sharing in 2009 (likely, the Marlins), $42.9 million in revenue-sharing funds. So, if we were to add Stark’s central fund average, minus pension fund of $30 million, the idea that a club received between $70-$75 million in revenue-sharing and centralized funds is not out of the question.

With that, here's some Opening Day player payroll figures (minus bonuses, deferred payments and incentive clauses, or, money paid or received in trades or for players who have been released). to digest:

  • Marlins - $36,834,000
  • Pirates - $48,693,000
  • A's - $62,310,000
  • Royals - $70,519,333
  • Padres - $43,734,200
  • Nationals - $60,328,000
  • Rays - $63,313,034
  • This is why I hate revenue sharing, which is designed to increase competitive balance. The big-market teams make the money, and the small-market owners simply take it and line their pockets with it.

    Simply put, that's not right.

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    Mauer

    I don’t think the Yankees are going to get him if Jesus Montero is still on the team. He’s the catcher of the future, remember? If they are really serious about Montero, then they’ll give him a chance, rather than to sign Mauer to “A-Rod like” dollars.

    I think Mauer is staying on the Twins. He’s the face of their franchise. He’s like their Derek Jeter. I can’t see him leaving. But if he does become available and wants to sign elsewhere, I have a feeling it’s not going to be with the Yankees as long as Montero is still around and the Yanks are serious about giving him a shot.

    by nyyrocks29 on Nov 29, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

    So do I

    And I think he should, to tell you the truth. I was just pointing out what the Chicago Tribune said.

    by Ed Valentine on Nov 29, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    well...

    Mauer could be the starting catcher, and Montero could be the starting DH. I think it’s likely that Montero will never be as good defensively as Mauer, but he has a great chance to be better offensively.

    by Wraithpk on Nov 29, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    Yankees have a ton of older players locked in

    My guess is that Jeter, A-Rod, and Posada all will need DH time in the future. And Jeter and A-Rod are both Yankees until their career is over, so they will need to take up a lot of DH time as well for 8+ years to come. I think it will be difficult for them to have a full time DH in the future, because of the older players they have.

    by nyyrocks29 on Nov 29, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    he has a great chance to be better offensively.

    i wouldn’t go that far. he has a fair chance to be as good offensively as Mauer. that’s no knock on Jesus, just praise for Mauer.

    by Travis G on Nov 29, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    This

    I mean, really, the guy has won batting titles and an MVP, is an established power and RBI guy at the major league level, and wasn’t phased by playoff pressure. I wouldn’t even go so far as to say that Montero has a “fair” chance at being as good as Mauer offensively. Again, not a knock on Montero, but Mauer is a stud.

    by d_c_guy on Nov 30, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    I'll correct my statement:

    Montero has a great chance to be a better power hitter, but a low chance to hit for better average.

    by Wraithpk on Nov 30, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    Take a shot

    Theres no reason why the Yankees won’t throw some money towards Mauer, hes one of the best players in the game.. I can’t see the Yankees being super agressive unless the reason is to drive him away from Boston..
    As for Jesus Montero, i don’t think he will be in the Majors for a few more seasons.. Although he has a great bat, he is very poor defensively.. He may make an appereance as a DH but i highly doubt that this season and the following season..

    Either way the Yankees will have no choice but to take a shot at Mauer.. Nobody wanta to see him in a Boston or Angels uniform… My guess is he stays in Minnesota.. He seems like a humble guy who doesnt care about $$ too much, he would rather play in his home state..

    by Fluke on Nov 29, 2009 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

    I think

    that the Yankees should definitely be interested and take a look at him. Maybe make an offer. But I don’t think that they should go after him so aggressively and outbid everyone for him, like the way they got CC or resigned A-Rod, because they don’t need him as much due to the surplus of catching in the Yankees system.

    And I know that Montero won’t be catching in the majors until 2011 at the earliest. But thats also the year Mauer becomes a free agent.

    Yankees will have interesting decisions to make. I agree, he’ll probably stay in Minnesota. I hope he does. It makes things easier for the Yanks.

    by nyyrocks29 on Nov 29, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    According to Scott Boras...

    some of these teams are getting up to 85 million dollars from the central baseball fund, revenue sharing, and cable tv licensing before they sell a single ticket. And then you have teams like the Marlins who have a payroll of 50 million below that.

    I think it’s time for teams to fully disclose their revenue and expense numbers, so the fans can see how much effort the owner is putting into winning, and decide then if they want to continue supporting the team.

    by Wraithpk on Nov 29, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

    Agreed

    It’s not the Yankees responsibility to bankroll other franchises.

    by Ed Valentine on Nov 29, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    I agree as well..

    I just cannot believe the owners agreed to this. Were not the Yankees the Only team to say no to this proposal? if my memory serves me correctly? I do now know all the semantics involved with how the money is spread about but there has to be some sort of cap on money being shared and that money should be required by MLB to improve your team, not to store in your back pocket.

    If baseball was serious about relative competition then they would institute a salary cap and do away with this joke of a system that is in place right now. I do remember when the Royals were good through out the 80’s and the Twins and BlueJays were winning WorldSeries. And the Pirates were a respectable team. You cannot tell me that these cities lack interest in baseball, what they lack is owners who are committed to winning and spending money on their clubs. If you bring in the talent the fans will show, if your team starts to win, the fans will show. What Glass has done in KC has almost guaranteed the doom of that franchise, whether through contraction or relocation.

    by BigDanz2000 on Nov 29, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    Agreed

    Teams need to be required to show that they are using those dollars. Either in salary or scouting or somewhere. Not just pocketing it.

    by Ed Valentine on Nov 29, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    I don't think there should be a salary cap, but...

    I think all money given to a team from revenue sharing and the central baseball fund should HAVE to be used in player payroll. If the owner then wants to pocket all revenue from ticket and vendor sales, fine. But there is no reason any MLB team should have a payroll below 80 million

    by Wraithpk on Nov 30, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

    It's wrong. Just wrong. There is no way

    that there should be a salary cap.

    Yes I'm talking to myself. Who else would I trust?

    by TheMelkman on Nov 29, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

    Agreed.

    Why should a salary cap be placed on the teams who want to win just because the other greedy owners would rather pocket the cash than spend it to win?

    by Gelatin on Nov 30, 2009 1:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

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