Around the Yankee Universe: Mark DeRosa, anyone?
by Ed Valentine on Nov 19, 2009 12:15 PM EST
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Infielder Mark DeRosa's glove could be good fit
Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News is suggesting that the Yankees pursue DeRosa, the veteran utility man.
If the Yankees bring back Johnny Damon, DeRosa would be a good fit because he could play left field on days when Damon serves as the designated hitter. DeRosa, who has started 212 games in the outfield, 311 at third base, 304 at second base, 139 at shortstop and 23 at first base, could also spell Alex Rodriguez at third base on his DH days, making him an ideal addition for the aging Yankees.
The Yankees have shown prior interest in DeRosa, who is well-regarded by many inside the organization. At least 10 teams are reportedly in the mix for DeRosa, who hit .250 with 23 home runs, 78 RBI and 78 runs scored in 139games with Cleveland and St. Louis last season.
My take: This is an idea that I like, particularly if HIdeki Matsui and Jerry Hairston Jr. are not part of the 2010 Yankee roster. There have been seasons when GM Brian Cashman has pretty much ignored the bench, and last season we saw how important having quality depth is. Just like Hairston was an upgrade over Cody Ransom, DeRosa would be an upgrade over Hairston.
Speaking of Matsui, IT IS HIGH, IT IS FAR, IT IS... caught. makes an impassioned, somewhat melancholy, case for why the World Series MVP can't be a Yankee next season.
It's no fun, closing the book on a great novel.
Its like watching Peter Pan, when you were a kid: You didn't want it to end. You wished you could stay in that fantasy world, flying with Tinker Bell and always outwitting Captain Hook. Everything was magical. And then... it ended... on a school night, no less.
We have no place next year for Hideki Matsui.
It's not his fault. Great player. Great Yankee. Great man. He just can't play the outfield anymore. And we just can't take a full-time DH anymore.
My take: Unfortunately, I agree with this. The Yankees have too many veteran guys who could benefit from rotating through the DH spot. If the Yankees keep Damon, Matsui, as much as I love the guy and what he has done for the Yankees, would be cluttering up the roster.
Other Stuff
- Here is another vote against the Yankees signing free-agent pitcher John Lackey.
- Commissioner Bud Selig is promising to tighten baseball's ridiculously stretched out playoff schedule. I say, hooray for that.
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Is Lackey really asking for "Zito" money?
I dunno how he would be, he didn’t even win a CY Young like Zito did.
Lackey is 2 years younger than Halladay. If that’s what we’re trying to do, trade for Halladay, it makes little sense over signing Lackey…even if its for Zito money.
Halladay would break the bank anyway if Lackey signs for “Zito money”.
Plus…its really not like Halladay’s been always injury free. He was banged up a bit last year too.
I still say…
1) Sign Pettite and a ‘reclamaition" type (Sheets etc.)
2) Sign Lackey if they’re not sold on their rotation
3) Wait till next year for Halladay to become a FA or look at others
4) trade for Halladay (ONLY if Pettite retires and Lackey signs somewhere else…even then, I’d see who else is out there).
"It ain't over till its over"---
No way...
I agree with Re-sign Pettitte, he’s got one more year in that left arm.
-And even then they only have 3 reliable starters.—So we need 2 more, who are they Jobe and Hughes? No, neither are reliable in the rotation.
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-—-Trade Joba and a couple others for Halladay, then it’s CC, Roy, AJ, Andy and Phil H, who will be good enough for a fifth starter.
-——-Then hoist another World Championship banner for the 2010 Yankees because a staff like that would be next to unbeatable.
If the Yanks can sign Andy and trade for Halladay, they’d be set. And if no Halladay then they have to get another pitcher, Lackey is obviously available. If not trade for Derek Lowe or someone else. There are a few good 4th starters available.
We have a chance for a dynasty, I say get Halladay and win three titles in-a-row!
you don't need a dominant rotation from 1-5.
Is it nice? Yea.
But…WHY!!!!
WHY do we have to get the single best player out there? Give me one good damn reasone WHY we have to get the #1 player available? We have an ace. Sure, 2 aces are nice, but WTF for?
Get a #3 or 4.
There has to be other players available, even if it must be by trade, than Doc Halladay.
Focusing on the #1 player availabe is simply not necessary and…pretty stupid actually.
The ""#2""" pitcher available is Lackey…what is so wrong with signing him?
Really piss poor idea to go and think WE MUST GET THE BEST player out there.
Not necessary when there are other options.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 19, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
3 quality pitchers are enough
NO team has completely reliable, dominant starting pitchers in every spot. They’d never lose! If they have CC, A.J., and Andy in 1-2-3 next year, I’m good with putting Hughes and Joba into the 4-5 spots. They need to develop. And without the rules, with Joba just going out there and pitching, he could be a great pitcher next year.
They have a quality rotation right now. They don’t need Halladay. Don’t’ give up the farm for him.
no way
trade JOBA or HUGE,AND OTHERS FOR HOLLIDAY?PLUS A BOAT LOAD OF CASH?UNLESS RED SUCKS GET INVILED STAY AWAY
BIG YANKEE FAN,FROM MASS. HAVE TO PUT UP WIYH ALL THESE HOLE SOX FANS
Jeets...
who are you talking about????
MATT HOLLIDAY..is a Free agent, a LF. No one has to trade anything aside from money for him.
ROY HALLADAY! is a pitcher, the one we are talking about.
Other than starting with an ‘H’ and ending with a Day…they really don’t sound alike either.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 20, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I like the idea of having Mark DeRosa.
It just might make up for Damon if he decides to leave. As much as I like Hairston, he not in anyway an everyday Yankee player.
Yankees all day.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." ~Rogers Hornsby
Here's a few interesting things from MLB Trade Rumors
Nick Swisher available for trade – I doubt it
Yankees plan to pursue free agent relievers Rafael Soriano and Mike Gonzalez – I could see them getting one as an 8th Inning guy if they are going to start both Hughes and Joba
Swish
Yeah I saw that to— it’s from his twitter page- the exact quote being “The Yankees, ever so quietly, are letting teams know that RF Nick Swisher is available” … not sure WTF that means. Personally, I think Swish is worth more to this team than he would return.
If the Yanks lose Damon, DeRosa makes a lot of sense.
Of course you’d make him available. He’s under contract at a reasonable rate for the next couple years, and he came for the cost of Wilson Betemit.
If you could turn him into something more, like prospects for the Jays, why wouldn’t you?
I’ve got to think about what the RF plan would be at that point, but you have to listen.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
depends one what we trade Swish for...
and if there’s a RF who’s as good in place.
And its not like RF who OPS .870 grow on trees.
We better get back a similar caliber RF somehow, cuz not only is Swish’ play an asset, his contract and production are assets too.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 19, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I sort of hope it's not true
I like Swisher, even with his flaws. One thing to consider: he usually gets off to a hot start, and we’ve got some guys who are notoriously slow starts (looking in Tex’s general direction). Swish’s hot start this year helped us tread water until A-Rod came back and Tex got hot, and he was pretty good after that. Still, I guess it doesn’t hurt to see what they can get in return.
by long time listener on Nov 19, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
At this point, Matsui is a rich man's Ruben Sierra circa 2002
As in, a great DH and the most dangerous PH possible for Yankee Stadium, but not much else. Would he take $5 million for 80 games as a DH?
That remains my hope. I’d got as high as $8M but with the understanding he’s an 80 game starter and available to PH.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
jscape, Portland,
agreed. If Matsui is willing to take 5M + incentives on a year-to-year basis to be a DH/PH, I’ll do it in a heart beat. The common argument against that is, the Yankees want to rotate the older starters at the DH position… but why can’t the starters take the game off instead? Matsui is arguably our biggest bat outside of A-Rod and Tex.
We should listen to offers for Swisher too. Although, admittedly, we will miss his at-bats, his bat, and the thing that no one has mentioned so far, his clubhouse presence. People may think it’s overrated, but wasn’t he a big part of the clubhouse turnaround?
I don’t know about Soriano and Gonzalez.. Didn’t we have lots of arms in the bp all throughout the year? One playoff and a full season later, you would think they’d mature and fit into more dependable players, no?
DeRosa would appear to be a super-sub, and is a definite upgrade over Jerry Hairston Jr. No arguments there, provided he comes along for a sensible contract, but competition should be fierce.
SURE!
aka Damaso Marte part deux!!
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 19, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
You mean a dominant postseason LOOGY?
Say what you will about Marte, but he was HUGE in October.
by New York Sports Jerk on Nov 20, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
That's kinda what I meant.
I’d rather them use Marte more. This guy was a pretty good closer for a while and a damn good setup man too at times.
Having him and Mike Gonzalez…they could ship your boy Phil Coke to Tijuana.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 20, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
They should do that anyway...
…it’ll prevent Girardi from thinking “Cokey” has turned a corner and will stop giving up home runs.
by New York Sports Jerk on Nov 20, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Mark DeRosa
He’d be a great utility guy, but he’s good enough to start at 2nd or 3rd for a bunch of teams so I don’t see why he’d sign here to be a utility guy. I don’t think I’d want him as my starting left fielder.
by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Nov 19, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions
He hasn't played in less than 136 games since '06
Doesn’t make sense that he would accept a back up role after hitting 23 HR last season while he can still be efficient as a starter. Feinsand is assuming a lot by writing that Damon and DeRosa would be willing to sign for more likely less money and share LF duties.
by Scooby Snacks on Nov 20, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
free agnt
please no more d.h. for the yanks, possada days are numbered as a catcher,cervellia belongs behind the plate at least half the games better dev. than possada. possada time is to d.h. at least half the games if not more.
BIG YANKEE FAN,FROM MASS. HAVE TO PUT UP WIYH ALL THESE HOLE SOX FANS
Posada is an asset as a catcher
as long as his glove still works…he’s the Yanks catcher for the better part of their time. The difference with a defensive catcher over an average catcher, behind the plate like Jorge…is marginal. Its up to the pitcher to throw the ball over the plate.
The Yanks are a better team with Posada as the catcher and Matsui or whoever else as the DH.
Yes, Posada’s days as the catcher, during the 162…should be limited.
But when we make the playoffs….Cervelli’s on the bench where he should be, or whoever the BACKUP catcher is.
No shape way form, whatever you way you can guess it…Posada is the catcher in the playoffs. NOT the DH. That makes the lineup worse than it should be.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 20, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
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