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Cashman clear on Joba, Phil

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We have all winter to debate whether Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes should be in the starting rotation or the bullpen for the New York Yankees next season. But, let's come at the debate I am sure we will have for the next several months knowing exactly where General Manager Brian Cashman stands.

"I look at them as starters that can relieve," he said. "But I look at them as starters."

The Yankees will likely have lots of options for the back of the rotation, and no one knows for sure how it will play out. But, we know the organization seems steadfast in its belief that both guys are long-term rotation corner stones.

Let's look at some other stories making the rounds of the Inter-Google today that affect our World Champion Bronx Bombers.

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More reasons to hate Scott Boras

Boras, we know, is the egotistical super-agent. Unfortunately for us, he represents Johnny Damon. Despite Damon' oft-stated desire to stay with the Yankees, Boras is not going to make that easy.

The Yankees were hoping all the joy associated with being a champion Yankee would motivate Johnny Damon to accept a one- or, at the most, two-year deal to return. However, his representative, Scott Boras, flushed the notion of a hometown bargain. Instead, he compared his client to Derek Jeter and sounded as if he wants a three- or four-year deal for Damon.

Oh, and if you want to replace Damon with free-agent Matt Holliday Boras represents him, too. And he wants Mark Teixeira money for Holliday.

WFAN's Sweeny Murti praises Brian Cashman

We have heard a lot of praise for Cashman recently, and will likely continue to hear it throughout the off-season. Here is WFAN's Sweeny Murti weighing in.

Did any of us really see this coming two years ago? Remember when Hank Steinbrenner was running amok, Joe Girardi was replacing Joe Torre, A-Rod was opting out and back in, and Johan Santana was on his way to Flushing instead of the Bronx?

Brian Cashman sat in front of the media last October and had what I called his "You can't handle the truth" moment, telling us all that he was going to re-write the story. None of us knew that he would be proven right only a year later.

Who's in Center Field? Gardbrera, and the Yanks are in good hands

The outstanding River Avenue Blues is looking at what went right for the Yankees in 2009. Here is their take on center field.

Across the board, the performance in centerfield improved in 2009. The Gardbrera duo (plus a two game cameo from Jerry Hairston Jr.) hit .273-.338-.400, as Melky once again carried most of the load. Not only was the offensive upgrade welcome, but the defense also improved immensely thanks to Gardner. The team’s UZR/150 in center jumped to +7.5, third best in the AL. The league average offense and well-above average defense gave the Yankees the most production out of the centerfield position since Bernie Williams was in his heyday.

Baseball GMs pass on expanding instant replay - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

Not a Yankee story, but I had to mention it.

Upon further review … baseball general managers like instant replay the way it is. GMs failed to take a vote Tuesday on expanding instant replay following a postseason filled with blown calls by umpires. "I know there are some who have talked off line about the expansion of instant replay," said Jimmie Lee Solomon, executive vice president of baseball operations in the commissioner’s office. "Right now, the commissioner doesn’t see any reason to consider it."

My take: i think it's stupid that baseball, with the technology already in place to improve the game, refuses to use it. Especially after the poor post-season umpiring we just witnessed.

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So now Cashman is going to tell Girardi how to use his pitchers?

Cashman should concentrate on doing what he does best, whatever that is (last off-season, it was actually acquiring quality players for a very welcome change) and let Girardi decide who’s going to play where.

Last time I checked, Cashman had neither managed nor played a day in the majors (or anywhere else for that matter).

by cph on Nov 11, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

Nah

He didn’t ‘dictate’ that they start, just that he thinks of them as starters first and relievers second. Possible one starts, one relieves. We’ll see.
By the way, what’s with going off on the guy like that after the team just won the World Series? He was asked about them, and asnwered that he saw them as starters first and relievers second. I have no problem with that.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 11, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say "dictate", did I?

And I’m not trying to go off on Cashman. He had a good offseason (and the Yanks had a great year), after some very poor offseasons. I don’t need to remind any Yankee fan of the many miserable creatures (aging, overpaid, underskilled, and selfish players) Cashman has brought to the team via trades and FA signings over the years.

by cph on Nov 11, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Dictate means telling someone what to do.

So yes you did say Cashman dictated that they start.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Nov 11, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

oh come on....

let’s not split hairs. No need to make a big deal about it.

More importantly, I am still of the opinion that Joba can’t effectively start the entire season. If we’re still going to increase his pitch count by 20innings each year, he just can’t do it for the entire season. What are we going to do at the tail end of the season / playoffs?

by Vancouverguy on Nov 11, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The Yankees lost 59 games this season. That is a lot of

losses and Girardi and Cashman deserve full blame for them. Despite winning the World Series this was a dissappointing season especially because it took them six games to beat the Phillies. That is unacceptable. I fealt that the season became a total disappointment when they lost game 5. It is time to fire Girardi & Cashman and blow up the team.

by garp on Nov 11, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

YES!!!!

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't agree

with this. We are talking about two very young pitchers whose whole futures are up in the air. A decision of this nature is not just on the field but organizational. Of course the manager should have input but the long term futures of Hughes and Chamberlain is not his to decide alone.

by Dougrhon on Nov 11, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Kinda suprised at Hairston

But I’m assuming its something all the free agents have to do. And btw, who is to say Nick Swisher is completely safe from being dealt? Considering the two big OFs on the market, maybe somebody gets let go we don’t expect to? I don’t wanna see it, but nothing would suprise me at this point.

I say:
-Two year Damon.
-One year Matsui
-One year Andy
-Platoon CF the same way as 09
-And fix the rotation’s back end(signing another SP) creating a 3headed monster with Andy and either Phil or Joba in the final spot……the lesser effective being a middle/late reliever.

Anybody in the mood for a repeat?

by ReggieARodJeter on Nov 11, 2009 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

Pretty much

Doesn’t mean he won’t be back. He just has to leave his options open.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 11, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

A-Jax?

When does he become a factor in the Yankees outfield?

by OmarLittle on Nov 11, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

2011

Still needs to work on his plate discipline next year in AAA. A-Jax had 123 K / 40 BB in 504 AB.

by Scooby Snacks on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there an echo?

This isn’t news. The Yanks have always said Chamberlain and Hughes are starters. Personally, I have never felt the need to question this but some people have. Of course, the media always needs a story and this is rehashed anytime there is nothing better. In 3 or 4 years when they’re 26 or 27, if things remain the same, then I would question their roles.

by Peter Lacock on Nov 11, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

yup.

Cuz its the Yankees things get blown out of proportion.

I don’t see many questions on whether JA Happ is a starter

"It ain't over till its over"---

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 12, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

PITCHING

HUGES IS THE STARTER.JOBA IN RELIEF NO OTHER WAY

BIG YANKEE FAN,FROM MASS. HAVE TO PUT UP WIYH ALL THESE HOLE SOX FANS

by JEETS on Nov 12, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

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