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Yankees 7 Phillies 4: Yankees Never Say Die

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"Well.. one of Knuke's eyelids are jammed, and we need a live chicken?.. live chicken to get the hex off of Jose's glove, and nobody seems to kno what to get Jimmy or Millie for their wedding present. We are dealing with a lotta shit out here."

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"Well.. one of Knuke's eyelids are jammed, and we need a live chicken?.. live chicken to get the hex off of Jose's glove, and nobody seems to kno what to get Jimmy or Millie for their wedding present. We are dealing with a lotta shit out here."

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CC was not sharp, handing out 3 walks in addition to 7 hits over 6.2IP.  He managed to work out of significant trouble, leaving runners in scoring position in the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th.  He wasn't the immovable object of the ALCS, but with some offense behind him, he didn't need to be.

Sabathia didn't seem to be locating well, which may or may not have been influenced warning issued by the umps in the top of the first when Arod was plunked for the 3rd time in 4 games.  But he reminded the world that what makes him special is that he gives depth as well as quality.  

The Phighting Phils scored their first run on back to back doubles in the 1st, and another on a single + Johnny Damon's arm in the 4th. CC left in the 7th following another Utley solo shot on a hanger.

Joe Blanton kept the Yankees off balance for 6 innings- striking out 7 but also walking a pair and surrendering 5 hits.  The ump certainly helped with one of the most questionable strike zones I can remember in a long time.  Pitches called strikes half way down the shins, both sides of the plate growing and shrinking as the night stretched on.

The top of the order was the catalyst for the Yanks tonight, both Jeter and Damon collected a pair of hits and scored runs in the 1st and 5th.

Marte looked good closing out the 7th, giving way to Joba for the 8th.  Joba struck out Jason Werth, touching 97 with his fastball.  Then Joba struck out Raul Ibanez, throwing 3 straight sliders to set up another 97 mph fastball.  He was up 1-2 to the light hitting Pedro Feliz.  He missed with a pair of sliders, and came back with a fastball that Feliz turned around so quickly that Joba didn't even have to watch it fly to know it was gone.

In the top of the ninth, Matsui and Jeter went down in order.  Johnny Damon worked a nine pitch AB, finally lacing a single to left field.  The Phillies put the shift on Tex (though the broadcast team didn't mention it or show it well), and when Damon stole second, then popped up and took off for third most of Yankee Universe committed bushido before realizing that it was a great heads up play.  Tex was HBP, putting an exclamation point on his 0-fer, and bringing the Lighting Rod to bat with runners on 1st and 3rd.  Arod did what Arod do, doubling in Damon (Joe Nathan, Brian Fuentes, Brad Lidge- it's like a little collector set).  Jorge followed with a single, plating Tex and Arod, though Posada was out at second on the play.

Mariano took the hill with a 3 run lead (protecting a vulture W for Joba Chamberlain).  Goodbye Matt Stairs.  Goodbye Jimmy Rollins.  Goodbye Shane Victorino.  MVP?  Maybe, maybe.

The night's disheartening news concerns Melky Cabrera, who pulled up lame on a grounder to first in the top of the 6th inning.  If the Melk Man hits the DL, I figure either Freddy Guzman or Fransico Cervelli will return (though I'm personally rooting for Cody Ransom  /sarcasm).

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by Rumplestiltskin02 on Nov 1, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He never sounds that great postgame

but who cares…we win Woohoo!

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 1, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What a great game!

The Phillies kept rallying, but the Yankees always had an answer. That was a championship team out there tonight.

Johnny, Alex, Jorge – absolutely clutch on the grandest stage of them all!!

by waw on Nov 1, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

woops!

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh god

well at least he’s doing to others what he used to do to us

by Brian5517209 on Nov 1, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Golden rule (but wasn’t that Confucius?)

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

congrats on the win

When I look at Boris Diaw, I think of Beethoven and the age of the romantics... -The Great Bill Walton

by shaqfor3 on Nov 1, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There are plenty of former Dodger fans in the Yankee Universe. You’re always welcome here.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NEW YORK FELLAS

LETS WIN IT THERE AND LEAVE THE REAL CELEBRATING FOR MIDTOWN MANHATTAN

by NYYWinsRings26 on Nov 1, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think a small part of me wants this to go back. Would be a heck of a way to end our season, closing our new stadium’s first year with a championship clincher. Though I’ll take the win for sure.

by Reg O on Nov 1, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to clinch tomorrow

Got to make Rollins prediction come true. Series over in 5.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"I don't want one of those guys who'll drive in two but let in three every game." Casey Stengel

by tnredneckyankeesfan on Nov 2, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

<3 Brad Lidge

Knew it as soon as he was coming in!!

by Scooby Snacks on Nov 1, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I would have to add

CC brought the Tea Bag.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nah...

go for the jugular.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AJ can go all out...

its his last game anyway.

Plus, if he’s REALLY that awfuly, take him out early and plug in Gaudin.

No reason that AJ doesn’t start tomorrow (and I think they already have AJ starting anyway…so its moot.)

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Saving pitchers for tomorrow is a losing proposition. Win! Win now!

by waw on Nov 2, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mo is my MVP

this entire postseason he has been money. he’s got my vote

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 1, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yea...

I think the Dodgers, Twins, ANgels and Philles would all like to have a closer that you KNOW the game is over.

Oh yea…the Red Sox too. They would like a CLOSER too.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

seriously what will we do when he decides to retire? I think I may cry…

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 2, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shhhhhh...

Well just clone him!

by Yankz09 on Nov 2, 2009 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

His son's already a bat boy....

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

can he pitch?

" You F@#$ed Up, You Trusted Us!"

by GTWYankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Depending on how AJ pitches tommorow

It’s either MO, AJ, or Johnny

"We're only going to score 17 points?"

by Edgware on Nov 2, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Time to switch to

ESPNews and The Good Phight for some whine and cheese.

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 1, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jscape, great call on the Damon double steal

I was totally yelling at Johnny before I realized what he already knew – there was nobody covering third! Fox did not show the shift at all, so no one had any idea at first what Johnny was doing.

That heads up play changed the way Lidge went after ARod. After starting the inning very strong, I thought Lidge would shut us down, and the Phillies might win it. But Johnny single-handedly destroyed Lidge’s composure, setting him up for the man who feasts on the tears of closers, Alex Rodriguez.

I’m still on Cloud 9 over here…

by waw on Nov 1, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I thought Damon thought that the ball had gone into centerfield. I was about to unleash every curse word I’ve ever heard, and invent some new ones, until I saw no one at third. Now I call it the ballsiest play in the history of the franchise.

by long time listener on Nov 2, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn't go that far

but Damon really has an amazing baseball IQ
who cares if he’s old, he gets the job done

by Brian5517209 on Nov 2, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right there with you about Damon taking off for third

I thought the same thing and felt the same way until the cameras panned out. Johnny D is a warrior. He earned at least one more year in pin stripes.

by Mo42 on Nov 2, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My first reaction was WTF?!

which changed into an “Oh my God did he just do that?” I’m still giddy! :D

by pkyankeefan on Nov 2, 2009 12:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Damon pulled off one of the best plays I have ever seen

Just incredible instincts to get up and run towards third. Damon is everything Posada isnt on the basepaths.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't F*** up on the Yanks

They’ll make you pay every time.

The shift on Tex gave Johnny D an opening, and pure hustle took him to 3rd.

by GrandEd on Nov 1, 2009 11:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Their #1 vs Our #2

I kind of have a feeling the Series is coming to NY.

Follow me on twitter

by Branta on Nov 2, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dumb idea.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What for?

Gaudin hasn’t pitched in forever. You see what rust does for pitchers like Lidge tonight.

by Scooby Snacks on Nov 2, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that would mean we lose game 5.....

I don’t like this thought.

I got a feeling we’ll all have heart disease after we steal their Cheese steaks tomorrow.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What a Game!!!

" You F@#$ed Up, You Trusted Us!"

by GTWYankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Anybody for Phillies in seven games?

Just kidding guys – good game today – I salute the Yankees and fans.

by 2008Philz on Nov 2, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's not over yet

So it’s too early for us to tip our caps to you guys.

by long time listener on Nov 2, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

MAGIC NUMBER IS ONE!!!

" You F@#$ed Up, You Trusted Us!"

by GTWYankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let's wrap it up tomorrow!

Broadway parade on Wednesday!

by Scooby Snacks on Nov 2, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have an outrageous man crush on Alex Rodriguez

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Nov 2, 2009 12:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering...

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

very well done sir.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Nov 2, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

YANKEES!!!

I was stunned when I saw Damon heading to 3rd. First reaction was that he slipped off the bag and was caught in a run-down. But man, what a heads up play!

"We're only going to score 17 points?"

by Edgware on Nov 2, 2009 12:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol at Feliz standing around with the ball

You have to try to chase down Damon in the unlikely event of a stumble or slip.

by Scooby Snacks on Nov 2, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jeter used to do it all the time on Giambi shifts, at least going first to third. That’s how the catcher (Huckabee?) hurt Jeter’s shoulder on the play at 3rd base.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 7:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who needs Damon's arm when he's got brains and legs?

I thought he was caught in a run-down too, but damnit man, that was genius! I’m definitely loving me some Johnny Damon right now…and A-Rod for clutch hit #2 making it all worthwhile. But not Posada…he can still hit, but he’s apparently forgotten how to focus while base running.

by FantumGrey on Nov 2, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jUST WATCHED MY LOCAL NEW BROADCAST

they had clips of phillie fans coming out thye ball park while it was still tied…theyu must know of the late inning magic

by NYYWinsRings26 on Nov 2, 2009 12:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think I’m watching the same broadcast, though I think the footage was when Arod got his single. But the game was still going on.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind guys:

It isn’t over yet. From here on out all of our pitchers are on short rest, including CC for a second straight game in a potential game 7.

The odds are terrifically in our favor, but don’t celebrate yet. One to go…

by GMan83201 on Nov 2, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

sigh...

tomorrow is so, so far away……….

by typhical on Nov 2, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good night all. GO YANKEES!!!

" You F@#$ed Up, You Trusted Us!"

by GTWYankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait

to see John Kruk’s face.

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 2, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

hahaha

" You F@#$ed Up, You Trusted Us!"

by GTWYankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I’d rather not have Burnett/ Pettite on 3 days rest

especially Andy who has openly mentioned this year that he prefers EXTRA rest for his arm. He’s too old for short rest. I know it presents you with a tough matchup for game 5 and tough ?‘s for game 7 but I’d prefer AJ on full rest, and a Pettite/CC toss-up for a possible 7

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd Prefer To End It Sooner Or Later

You Go For The Kill, You Dont Give Them Hope. That Team Is Beaten Right Now. That 9th Inning Killed Them, Look At The At Bats Against Mo. You do not give them hope, you put them out to pasture.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 12:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Charlie Sheen was actually a decent pitcher

his fastball topped out at 89 in the filming of Major League.

He’s over the hill now though.

by GMan83201 on Nov 2, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Forget about the curve ball Ricky

give him the heater!

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 2, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

actually AJ's starting!

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If throws a gem again

and the Yanks win, does he deserve MVP?

by GMan83201 on Nov 2, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe.

There’s a lot of deserving candidates if he did that again.

Damon, after this weekend what he did…is the #1 tho

Mariano is #2.

AJ, if matches and beats Cliff Lee…I think so.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I second the Damon

He’s been in the middle of both big rallies in Philly.

by PortlandYankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

part of me

wants to see the Yankees win it at the Stadium….

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They are miserable but delusional

they think they are gonna win the next three games…but again they are from Philadelphia so I feel sorry for them..not

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

these morons

they are going around bars in Philly and interviewing fans…god I am getting a good laugh..gotta hand it to them they are resilient

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's the other way around...

If you noticed lately, the Giants lost there lasts games while the Yankees won theres. Once we win tomorrow, the Giants can start winning again. Lol!

by Jipeon on Nov 2, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no way i’m sleeping now, plus i’m starving now too, yeah, everything is forgotten ALEX, you da man, & johnny, awesome at bat, all that with 2 outs, unbelieveable, 1 more guys, 1 more, and life is good

by cmypath78 on Nov 2, 2009 12:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man this Yankees team is tough!!!

This game was starting look like game 4 in 2003, but we never got to “Jeff Weaver”/Gaudin??? thanks to Johnny, A-Rod and Mo.

by upstateNYYFan1984 on Nov 2, 2009 12:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marte

might have pitched his way into a new contract

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

we have him for another 2 years/6 mil

and a club option for another year/3 mil, I believe

by Brian5517209 on Nov 2, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm my fault

well thats good, he has really come out this series

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Give Cashman credit here

We stuck by this guy, and it’s paying off. He’s the guy we thought we were getting.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn i love this team...

1 win from it coming home….

by NYYWinsRings26 on Nov 2, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

yeah

they can try to put icing on a turd all they want..and Cliff Lee may win tomorrow but he can’t pitch 3 games …so after tomorrow if they win they are coming up to the Stadium, away from their little white hankies

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Much much more than them losing 4-3.

by pkyankeefan on Nov 2, 2009 12:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

They are just getting owned

and they need to come to terms with that…they were doing interviews with the local Philly sportscasters and it looked like they were about to admit it:)

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Each of the first three teams...

that we’ve played this postseason can be summed up in one word (including their fanbases)

Twins: Satisfied
Angels: Whiny
Phillies: Overconfident

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Quote from Phils blog:

“the yankees are absolutely the luckiest team in baseball, bar none, they hit more bloop hits then i have ever seen”

ROFL

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 2, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just read that too

First time I went there, just to see what it’s like, you know? To be fair, people replied saying the hits in the 9th weren’t lucky. You’ll always have some fans being dumb.

I like the write-up too. Came down hard on their team (and manager). I don’t necessarily agree or disagree, just saying it’s light years better than the Angels blog.

by pkyankeefan on Nov 2, 2009 12:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

And I thought all they did was hit HR....

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 7:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Quote of the day

from Fox 29 Phiadelphia sports announcer “The Philly lineup is just as talented and powerful as the Yankees lineup” BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think that would make the series tied would it not?

Of course it’s not so they can’t be equal.

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 2, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell does that matter?

I am so sick of all these meaningless stats. The only stat that matters in any sport, WINs!!

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry...

but if you say the Phillies lineup sucks, and the stats suggest that they’ve been BETTER than the Yanks, what the hell is your argument?

The Phils have had the slight edge on the Yanks in the hitting department, but our hits have simply been timlier.

by PortlandYankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I took up for the Phillies lineup in the post below but

Stats dont mean anything, if they did, then you are saying the Nationals are better than the Yanks, because head to head they had better statts against the Yanks. Save the stats for fantasy baseball.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but actually Portland Yankee is making a lot of sense

the Phillies line up has performed pretty well, almost up to par with the Yankees
but obvioulsy we have had timelier hitting and pitching, which is why we have the series lead

by Brian5517209 on Nov 2, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I <3 rationality.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 7:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

for your OPS stat...

I can give you a bunch of others: like RISP (picking up for us, dead for them) total Runs, and yes: Wins. Take out Lee’s game and it isn’t close.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That Wins Stat Sure Is Important

Wins is the main stat. Look at the 1960 WS, the Yankees dominated the Pirates in every stat but they had one less win.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They Do Have A Great Lineup But..

Ryan Howard Is Killing Them. You cant take anything away from the Phillies, they are the champs, and they have a great offense. The Yankees have the better team though.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's the best lineup in the NL

That doesn’t hide the fact that the NL is an inferior league (see: John Smoltz, Brad Penny) and that Rollins is probably turning is overlarge mouth on his own team about now, he’s the only one consistently doing anything.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bet you if the Phillies lose

He won’t predict shit from now on.

Hey Jimmy… is it suppose to rain tomorrow?

You know I ain’t predicting shit no more dog!

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"If we're nice we'll let it go to six"

agreed. The ’96 tape always was more fun to watch than the 98 or 99 tapes. That would be nicer. (knock, knock, knock)

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I want to be mean

Screw 96, I want to celebrate in front of the Phillies fans. End it tomorrow.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It amazes me

How much shit A-Rod got for the first two games. But his two run HR yesterday and that CLUTCH AS FUCK double tonight redeemed it all. Yet Ryan Howard… you know… Mr. oKtober gets no shit whatsoever.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Everywhere I see

It’s Philly NEEDS Howard to hit well. Never anything against him, how he’s been bad the whole series, etc.

With A-Rod, it’s always him, him, beat up on him. Two games and they couldn’t wait to say “A-Rod’s hitless in the World Series”. He might not be loveable to other teams’ fans, but the media could be a LITTLE less biased, don’t you think?

I love what Tex said after Game 2. He said something like how Alex had been brilliant all post-season, how he was sure that Alex’d get some hits soon, and if he didn’t, well, they were due to pick up the slack for him. No fuss at all, just pure class :)

by pkyankeefan on Nov 2, 2009 1:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

People Like Ryan Howard, he is a model ball player

ARod is not liked very much. ARod also is the highest paid player in the game, which means he is suppose to be the best.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what can they do with Melky?

Can they replace him on the roster? Can they only do that if they disable him for the rest of the Series?

by long time listener on Nov 2, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

If they use the DL

If they use the DL (take him out for the rest of the series) I believe we can use someone else. At this point who though? Cervelli for flexibility in an AJ game? Guzman (dear god no)? Another pitcher (I would hope not). My vote? Pena. Half decent bat, speed off the bench, can play anywhere. Or is he not an option. I should do research before I talk.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would imagine it's anyone on the 40-man roster

So I’d think Pena is eligible. But I actually have no idea what the rules are on post-season, in-series roster moves.

by long time listener on Nov 2, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the postseason DL is more complicated midseries. If I recall correctly, you have to replace a player with a like player, ie. outfielder with outfielder, infielder with infielder, pitcher with pitcher.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 7:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

can somebody please explain

why lidge didn’t get thrown out after hitting Tex? What’s the point of warning them if you’re not going to eject them?

I mean, who knows what would have happened with A-Rod after but still, it’s the principle.

by phonty on Nov 2, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

There was no intent in the 9th inning of a tie game with ARod coming up

Why would he want to face ARod, who owns him? I wouldve been mad if he got thrown out.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

they handled it well. As much as I’d love to see Rollins take a Bob Gibson Special they handled this all really well. Imagine how much shit we’d be hearing now about how the “umps gave the yanks the game” if Lidge gets tossed on a completely unintentional pitch

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Phillies fans wouldve loved to see Lidge thrown out

Most unclutch closer of all time. I think I’d rather have Proctor or Farnsworth closing a game over Lidge in a big spot.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

boggles

Especially about Farnsworth.

by d_c_guy on Nov 2, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because Giradi went to the umps after the warning

letting them know CC has to pitch inside to be effective and they said to him and CC that they will not eject a pitcher unless it was intentional.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else think

that Jayson Werth looks a little bit like shaggy from Scooby doo?

"Son, Nobody is half as good as Mickey Mantle"

by ntrokel on Nov 2, 2009 1:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I Think He Looks Like Edge

From WWE, not the guitarist from U2.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

THANK YOU!!!

This whole world series, the only thing that I could think about (besides us winning) is who in the hell Werth looked like. It was bothering me.

by Jipeon on Nov 2, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Dude that’s it! Finally I can die now! I have been wondering about that guy too! Case closed!

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He can look like whoever he wants...

he still remains the Philly who most scares the shit out of me. Said it at the start of the series (to my friends, so I have no proof) and I say it now. Guy’s a straight beast.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Him and Utley

are straight up studs. Howard is a beast too but luckily he has been spooked this WS so far.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They have an awesome lineup but

we have some awesome scouts. They dont get the credit they deserve. There is a reason Howard is struggling, the scouts found a weakness.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know this sounds weird

But watching Joba pitch gave me some confidence in him again. He made a BIG mistake but was straight up nasty. I like to see him locating and that velocity being back up.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

the first two strikeouts were vintage old Joba…that homerun was a mistake..ball up in the zone..I bet if he could do it all over again he’d miss a couple times or throw that nasty slider..send that kid back out again!

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

His mistake was throwing them sliders

He was throwing the ball by those guys, he had Feliz down but he started throwing sliders. With a 3-2 count Feliz was sitting on the fastball. I just hope Joba will learn from this. The same thing goes for the series, you dont nibble with a Gaudin when you can throw an AJ.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Mistake Was Not Staying With The Heater Having Him Down With Two Strikes

When will they learn to stop throwing waste pitches? Feliz knew the fastball was coming 3-2, he didnt know what was coming when he was down 1-2.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow the media is giving AJ no chance against Lee tomorrow. I hope AJ proves them wrong.

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well if Lee pitches like Lee game 1

Even I don’t give him a chance. But I think Lee HAS to come back down to earth right?

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Karma and the baseball gods

must repay him for his nonchalance in Game 1 (or have they already done that?)

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We Needed To Lose Game One

It refocused the team on the big prize. Lee is going down in the final game of the 09 season.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking At The Phillies In The Ninth...

Lee Will have to hit as well as he pitches, cause these guys looked done.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

All the networks cannot stop talking about Cliff Lee going in Game 5. Granted he did own us in Game 1 but cmon, he is not the second coming of Jesus or anything, he is human. AND he can’t pitch the next 3 games. The announcers were quick to question AJ pitching on 3 days rest….I guess they didn’t realize that CC just pitched on 3 days rest, Their next brainy question (this would be MLB Network) was that if AJ pitched game 5 who would pitch Game 6. I was like um..how about Andy Pettitte? I can’t believe these guys get paid a lot of money to discuss baseball..you get 10 times the knowledge on this site..

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AJ on 3 days rest is better than Gaudin on normal rest

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I cant belive how many people would rather see Gaudin out there

Hasnt this guy only thrown an inning in the last month? Its not like he is vitage David Cone either, he is a scrap heap pitcher. Next thing you guys will want Mitre to take Melkys roster spot.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Andy

would not be good on three days. I trust CC and even AJ, but if they win game 5 (with Lee going, very possible) Andy’s arm on three days is scary.
The other argument is that if Andy struggles, THEN bring in Gaudin. I counter with even more fear about Gaudin needing to hold us in a game we’re already losing .

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That said...

I understand the other side’s argument.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

ridiculous….let them not give us a chance…it seems to be working lately:)

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well there is logic to having Gaudin in

If Lee pitches like game 1, even AJ on his best day won’t beat him. By starting Gaudin, you could give him a short rope and you have 3 pitchers who can put in more than one inning, Joba, Hughes and Ace. That saves AJ for game 6 with normal rest and Andy or CC for game 7 if need be.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont want to live on "ifs"

The Phillies are on their last legs, go for the kill. Every move Girardi has made in this series has paid off, dont question him now.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No I am not questioning him

I have faith in AJ, I am just saying if Joe DID go with Gaudin it wouldn’t be a horrible idea.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gaudin has thrown one inning in a month

lets say he gets bombed. It wouldnt be right to hang him out to dry, so now you tax the bullpen, and you build up their confidence. You go for the kill. If the Yanks throw game 5 away, you never know what can happen. No thanks.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Its not illogical...

I don’t like it — but it makes a little sense if you think that AJ and Andy are NOT 3-day rest pitchers — AND CC has been getting progressively less effective as the 3-dayers add up.

I say start AJ but watch him closely. Conversely, you could start Gaudin and throw all the kitchen sinks tomorrow against Lee and then have AJ on normal rest for Game 6 — then CC and Andy poised for Game 7.

by rosebud on Nov 2, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right -- suddenly "Everyone" is supposed to be...

CC? That could come back to haunt. CC is a beast (and even HE is wearing down.) AJ and Andy are NOT beasts — and on 3-days rest might be the equiv of Gaudin — or (gulp) Kevin Brown.

Geez – at this point I’d hate to have two misguided disasters before having to get to a 74% CC for game 7.

by rosebud on Nov 2, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dont know what the debate is

Girardi isnt going to read these posts and change his mind. It doesnt matter what you or I think, AJ is starting tomorrow, Andy will pitch game 6, and CC will pitch game 7. As the Rock would say, “theres only two things you can do, Nothing, and Like It”

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 2:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Rock changed his name.

Meanwhile – lets just hope Joe got it right. I’m gonna call him and run all our arguments by him anyway! Rumor has it he reads Pinstripe before making his decisions anyway.

by rosebud on Nov 2, 2009 2:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

The point of a blog is to DISCUSS things exactly like this.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 2:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What is there to discuss?

He is starting AJ no matter what you or I think. If AJ gets in trouble, you will get your wish, Gaudin will be in the game.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're a fucking tard

Your actually MORE douchey here than you are on the goodphight. Where did I say I wish Gaudin will pitch? I simply have said the idea has merit.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 3:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You Are The Epitome Of Class

You really conduct yourself well, when you dont agree with someone, you call them names? How old are you 12? As far as the Goodphight, who are you to tell me about my posts? You trolled there, I have friends there. Do me a favor, dont reply to my posts, and I wont respond to yours. I want nothing to do with you and your lack of manners. You need to do some growing up.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 3:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point hidden in the Edes blog

Mo has only thrown 13 pitches combined in these past two games.
Which means if you include the off day he’s had enough rest to think more than 3 outs is reasonable for his 39 year old arm.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

not in the edes blog

sorry, just in the game recap blog. my bad.

by elyankee on Nov 2, 2009 1:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish

Can we just clone him?

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we need to...

us fans will be crying for decades trying to replace him

by ZigKitsune on Nov 2, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From a Mets fan

I knew I hated the Phillies, but I didn’t realize just how much until they tied it up and Damon had 2 strikes in the 9th – I had butterflies in my stomach like I haven’t had since Eli beat the Patriots. I feel like a guy who all of a sudden has a crush on a girl who cheated on his best friend – I’m supposed to hate the Yanks but I just can’t right now. I need to shower.

Anyway, I’m writing this to say that Damon’s at-bat and subsequent stolen base/taking of 3rd was one of the best individual sequences I’ve ever seen and hope it doesn’t get lost in everything else. That at-bat was Mookie Wilson-esque.

"[The Giants] beat us down. We were beat by a grown-man team, a team we want to be like one day. They came in here and took it to us. Out-manned us, out-gunned us. ... It wasn't even close." - Raheem Morris, 9/27/09

by cjmulrain on Nov 2, 2009 1:31 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Thanks.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 7:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That was the greatest end of an inning I've seen in a long time

That was the turning point of this series, cuz if Cliff Lee repeats game 1, the series would be 3-2 Philly vs. 3-2 NY like it may (its not going to be BT….)

I think us Yanks fans are a bit immune to what exactly happened that inning…cuz its been happening this entire playoffs and this entire season.

But thanks. Coming from a Met fan…I know its hard.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we can't forget

Arod’s huge RBI 2B.

CC battled all game despite being ‘off’. threw one too many curves to Utley.

let’s stay focused. one more win.

by Travis G on Nov 2, 2009 1:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Johnny got to third but there were still two outs. A-Rod came up huge!

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Johnny was the MVP of this game

If he doesnt go to third, Lidge isnt throwing just fastballs. He can throw a slider if Damon is on second but on third he cant risk a wild pitch. If Damon has another big game, he is gonna win the MVP.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno

It may be tough. A-Rod’s 2 run HR Sat was HUGE to get back in the game and A-Rod DID drive in Johnny and make his swipe of third actually pay off. I would say as of right now I would say A-Rod a Damon are about even in the WS.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damon had the go ahead 2B in Saturday's game

I mean its really nit-picking.

We could also factor in defense, where Damon’s arm has cost the Yanks a few runs, while A-Rod made a few errors that cost them too. Overall tho, they’ve both been solid at their positions.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Watching the replay of this game and a couple of the Twins and Angels series games

especially the ones with A Rods home runs…ready for the trophy to come back to NY

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 1:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Exhibit #2,789

of why MLB needs instant replay: Ryan Howard never touched homeplate. it ultimately didn’t matter, but what if the Phils won by a run?

by Travis G on Nov 2, 2009 1:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I still say no thanks

It all evens itself out. Foul balls, home runs, sure.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 2, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dont agree

In real time anyone couldve missed that. Girardi didnt even come out to argue.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In real time anyone couldve missed that.

that’s exactly why we need IR. it was a very tough call and umpires need help.

by Travis G on Nov 2, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It won't be

And let’s get real, most Yankee games are about 5 hours anyway and that’s without instant replay.

The umpires take like a couple minutes flat to make a call. It’s like catchers visiting the mound a billion times throughout the duration of the game. That’s what takes up time…

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That call really didnt bother me, these guys are human

The fact that Howard missed the plate is crazy, It is almost impossible for him to miss it.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It would have bothered you

…if it was a call involving the Yanks I bet…

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 2:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a call involving the Yanks

Who did you think it involved, the Pirates? Howard scoring impacted the Yankees. It just wasnt a blown call by the umps, you will destroy baseball if everything gets reviewed. The only reason all this is coming up now is because of all the damn technology with a million replays and different angles.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 2:23 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of things have "destroyed" baseball

Instant replay would be the LAST of that sports’ worries.

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay lets replay a play that meant nothing

So the run comes off the board, now what? This as crazy as the Yankee Stadium needs a retractable roof.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You're kind of ignoring everything

We won the game, so yes the call doesn’t matter. If we lose that game, it means a hell of a lot. The point is that we want the people who get paid to make these calls to do it the correct way. This is 2009, not 1909. We have the ability to get things right. So what if a few egos are messed up in the process?

I want my team to win and not because a few old men are uncapable of making decent calls.

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 2:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay if Fox doesnt show you that play 1500 times..

and you just saw it as it happened, did you jump up off the couch immediateley and scream he missed the plate? No you didnt because without it slowed down he was safe. Why watch the game if you guys want every thing changed? What do you love about the game? Sure the run couldve made the difference but how about all the calls we do get? These things work themselves out. We do need replay, but this play isnt the reason.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 2:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I rest my case

You’re missing the point. That one play is just one of many. I don’t see how instituting instant replay changes anything. If the umpire’s did a better job, we wouldn’t need it at all. That’s the idea. If they do what they are SUPPOSED to do, it still wouldn’t be an issue even if they get instant replay.

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 2:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How can you blame the umps on that play?

They have been terrible all post season but this play at the plate could be missed by anyone. This is nothing like the Phil Cuzzi play or McClelland missing all those plays in the ALCS at third base. In the end these guys are human. So they miss a few plays all year. Im sure youve never made a mistake. Look at all of us tonight, we were all ready to kill Damon when he headed towards third. He was right we were wrong. Its a game.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 3:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m posting…

You’re still talking about that “one play” when I’m actually referring to ALL THE BLOWN SAVES THIS POSTSEASON. The umpires, by blowing those calls, made a clear case for it themselves…

My “mistakes” don’t involve changing outcomes of baseball games. ;)

But whatever, they aren’t going to institute instant replay any time soon anyway, so I’m done.

by jigglytuffy on Nov 2, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

would it still not have

bothered you if the Phils won by a run?

by Travis G on Nov 2, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Question - why the 5-hour worry?

Figure 90% of the calls are no brainers — and from what we’ve seen the 10% “questionables” are apparent in the TV broadcast within seconds. This isn’t the NFL. Calls are pretty clear – when blown or not. You could have a decision flashed on the scoreboard from upstairs in no time and then get on with it. Its the silly "lets get 6 sixty year olds in a 3 minute huddle and then watch them waddle across the infield and down the stairs for a bite and a bit of video watching that takes all the time.

Technology can fix baseball in an instant. If you want the “entertainment” of human frailty then keep it as is. if you want to get it right — you go with replay.

by rosebud on Nov 2, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yea I don;'t understand that...

we’re talking like maybe 15 minutes on total (maybe 20 if Joe West has to waddle to the review booth and come back).

Its for the better of the game.

The argument that I see fit is that the umps may be incompetent enough to not overturn their decisions based on review…like many NFL refs do.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

it takes 30-60 seconds to review a play. and most times you can see the correct call within 10 seconds of replays. don’t send the umps off the field, just have an ump in a booth with an HDTV.

by Travis G on Nov 2, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think there should ever be instant replay without a request from the bench, just like the catcher asking the home plate ump to check with another ump to see if a batter swung. And the home plate ump should have the right to refuse.
There has to be a limited to how many calls get replayed, or else you wind up waiting and cheering for the call and not for the action.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 7:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mitch Williams

will NOT shut up on MLB Network about AJ starting tomorrow night…he is longing for Chad Gaudin…had to ask myself..what team is up 3-1? Oh that’s right, not your Phillies. If he does start tomorrow and the Phillies win, doesn’t that mean Pettitte starts Game 6 on full rest? The Andy Pettitte with more postseason wins then anyone?

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 1:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ah good call

couldn’t figure that out for some reason…but I’ll still take Burnett over Gaudin:)

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 2, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe It Will Rain In Philly, Causing the Game To Be Canceled

And Then all this speculation will be put to sleep.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I can’t come up with a good rhyme either.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 7:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Could There Have Been A Curse Of The Moose?

Everybody always blamed my favorite Yankee of all time, Donnie Baseball, but look at Mussina. He arrives the year after our last WS win, and he retires the year we win our next one.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 1:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Curses are silly

And the pitching Moose had along with him (Brown? Vasquez?) wasn’t something he could help. But I’ll always regret he never won a WS with us. One of my favourite athletes and definitely one of my favourite Yankees.

by pkyankeefan on Nov 2, 2009 4:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Moose had quality pitchers alongside him from 2001 - 2003

Guys like El Duque, Wells, Pettitte, Clemens. In later years he had Wang, Johnson, Pettitte and a few others. Only in 2004 did he not have a good staff surrounding him.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Um.
Games started:
2004: Vaquez 32, Lieber 27, Mussina 27, Brown 22, Contreras 18, Hernandez 16
2005: Johnson 34, Mussina 30, Wang 17, Pavano 17, Brown 13, Wright 13
2006: Wang 33, Johnson 33, Mussina 32, Wright 27, Chacon 11
2007: Pettitte 34, Wang 30, Mussina 27, Clemens 17, Hughes 13
2008: Mussina 34, Pettitte 33, Rasner 20, Wang 15, Ponson 15

Just for comparison:
2009: Sabathia 34, Burnett 33, Pettitte 32, Chamberlain 31, Wang 9, Mitre 9

After Andy and Roger left in 2003, Moose never had pitchers as talented and durable as he was around him. The postseason is about talent and depth. The depth was never there.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 8:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!
2008: Mussina 34, Pettitte 33, Rasner 20, Wang 15, Ponson 15

And people blame Girardi for last year….

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 2, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for making that point so well jscape :)

The other pitchers might have been good, but they were far from the lockdown pitching we’re seeing from our starters in the playoffs. Even if they’re not totally on, they’re keeping the damage to a minimum and that just wasn’t happening before.

I will (sadly) admit that I saw Schilling and Johnson in 01 (I was new to baseball then. The concept of Mo NOT converting a save was so alien to me that I was stunned by it for a few days. Maybe I’m still a little stunned), Florida in 03, Beckett in 07 and Hamels last year (the only palatable, and only back then, ace from this list) and wondered when we would get our own badass pitching. So while I was really happy when CC signed up, I was damn near ecstatic when AJ came on board. Because I felt we finally had the pitching depth we hadn’t had in so so long.

Lets go Yankees!

by pkyankeefan on Nov 2, 2009 8:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Im not sure what you are getting at

This season we have one ace, then we have AJ, who is really good, or really bad, and we have Andy. I will give you 04, but 05, Johnson was a 17 game winner and Wang was decent. Again in 06 he was surrounded with Wang and Johnson. Wang was as good as AJ this year, and Johnson won 17 games with a high ERA. In 07, he had Wang and Pettitte, one again Wang won 19, so he was as good as Burnett. 08 was a lost season. So maybe Mussina wasnt an ace, maybe he was just a complimentary pitcher, more like an AJ, less like a CC. Next you will drag lineups into it, or that Mussina didnt have Gaudin or Mitre on his staffs. The Curse Of The Moose Ends Tonight.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s more like The Curse of Fewer Than 30 Starts.
Only in 2006 did the Yanks have 3 pitchers make 30+ starts. That’s barely a championship caliber rotation (as we can see this year with the whole should AJ or Gaudin start game 5 debate).

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Because This Team Has A Three Man Staff

Now that Gardner gets to play, Gaudin is the new flavor of the month. This is a scrap heap pitcher that people are debating about. I wouldnt feel confident if he was facing the Nats, let alone the defending champs.

by YankeesJets on Nov 2, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ONE MORE!!!!!!

i think we can all agree that days like today are the reasons we watch baseball, being one win away. this is the 1st time i can experience a day like this i was too young to remember the late 90’s, but anyway………………GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Yes we lost and yes we are upset. But like all Champs we will bounce back."
Osi umenyiora

by donnybaseball23 on Nov 2, 2009 7:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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