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A happy day in the Yankee Universe

Life is good as a New York Yankee fan this morning. A 2-1 World Series lead with CC Sabathia heading to the mound tonight -- against Joe Blanton instead of Cliff Lee.

Let's cruise the Inter-Google while we celebrate the Game 3 victory, and see what is being said Around the Yankee Universe.

  • New York Daily News media critic Bob Raissman was highly critical of FOX for their reporting -- or lack of reporting on the Alex Rodriguez home run that resulted in the first-ever World Series replay reversal. The camera, of course, belonged to FOX -- a fact that was never mentioned. The other question is, of course, why would the network stick a camera in a place where it could interfere with play?
  • Mike Lupica has plenty of praise for Andy Pettitte this morning, after Pettitte perservered through six difficult inning. 

None of it (the comeback) happens if Andy Pettitte doesn't stand in there against the Phillies, like a hitter standing in against the curve. There have been what feel like a hundred October nights when he had more fastball and more stuff than he showed you against the Phillies in Game 3, those three runs in the first two innings, two home runs by Jayson Werth, the second one a monster shot that went off the facing of the upper deck at Citizens Bank Park.

He pitched six innings, gave up five hits, struck out seven, gave up the two home runs. It does not look like a lot. It was. On this night, the night when the Yankees were trying to get ahead and then give the ball to CC Sabathia, Pettitte was as much a champion Yankee as he has ever been. He needed 17 minutes and 24 pitches to get out of the bottom of the first. He threw over to first eight times after Jimmy Rollins singled. He saw Rollins steal second without even drawing a throw from Jorge Posada. It is supposed to be easier stealing from an armored car.

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  • While Pettitte is drawing praise today, Philadelphia starter Cole Hamels is mostly drawing scorn. Including a 'WTF were you thinking?' reaction to that fifth-inning curveball he threw to Pettitte that resulted in a game-tying single. The following is from SI.com's Tom Verducci, and it probably sums up the reaction of Philly fans and knowledgeable baseball people.

If Game 3 is the turning point of the World Series -- 68 percent of teams up 2-1 go on to win it -- then a Yankees championship began with one pitch from Cole Hamels that will be remembered as one of the great gaffes in recent Series history. The beginning of the end for Philadelphia was a first-pitch curveball Hamels threw New York pitcher Andy Pettitte with no understanding of basic baseball. When Pettitte stepped in, Hamels was working with a 3-2 lead, a runner at second base and -- here's the key part -- one out. Pettitte is a career .134 hitter who has come to bat a total of 12 times over the past three years. Hamels could dispose of him with fastballs, the way J.A. Happ would do the next inning, and he would be one out away from being out of the inning. Instead, Hamels threw a first-pitch curveball up, and Pettitte slapped a single to tie the game. Why in the world would he throw something slow -- and up, no less -- to an American League pitcher? "I made the right pitch to Pettitte," Hamels explained. "A pitcher doesn't hit an oh-and-oh curve in a bunting situation." I was incredulous. I had to follow up, and asked him, "Just to clarify, you thought Pettitte was bunting, so you threw a breaking ball up to try to get him to pop up a bunt?"

"Yes," Hamels said. "That's what I get my fair share of the time when I'm bunting. He swung and got a hit. Baseball is very, very difficult to understand sometimes." Hamels emphasized his point by way of explaining he missed location only once, on a fastball to Johnny Damon that became a two-run double that inning. Hamels clearly did not regard the pitch to Pettitte as a mistake. I couldn't believe it. There is no way Pettitte is bunting there. There is virtually no advantage to be gained from moving a runner from second to third and be left with two outs. With no outs, it's an obvious bunt situation. One out? The pitcher swings away, because even if he strikes out, you still have a runner in scoring position with two outs, and on all but rare occasions the runner will be sent home from second on a single. So you have nothing to lose by letting the pitcher swing away. It's Baseball 101.

"Skip [Joe Girardi] sat me down the other day and said, 'Hey, just relax. I want you to just watch this game, enjoy this game,' " Swisher said. "And then we talked about some stuff after the game. But I think it really helped me mentally, not necessarily physically because right now you're such on Cloud Nine because you're playing in the World Series and you don't really feel anything.

"But it was nice for my head to just rest and enjoy that game, and especially for us to win, that was great."

You have to wonder what sort of role Hughes, sporting a 10.80 ERA in eight postseason appearances, will play the rest of the way. If Girardi doesn't trust him to get two outs before surrendering three runs, that doesn't speak much for the manager's confidence.

It is a fair question. My guess is that you will see more David Robertson and Joba Chamberlain. SI.com's Jon Heyman got this tidbit about Hughes from a scout. "He looks frightened, he doesn't look the same."

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I really didn't understand

that curve to Andy. As you said, his swinging in that situation is Baseball 101. Just goes to show what a competitor Andy is. He might strike out, but he won’t give an inch.

It was real nice to see Swish get it going. He is such a huge asset to the team, and he was simply pressing. Joe made a great decision to sit him in game 2.

Don’t know what to think of Hughes right now. It seems to me he is overthrowing, trying to blow by every batter. He needs to relax and get back to hitting his spots.

All in all, I am one estatic Yankees fan right now. Up 2-1, CC pitching game 4, regaining home field….nothing to say but, Go Yankees!

by grandpa grouse on Nov 1, 2009 8:37 AM EST reply actions  

Pettite again demostrating courage in the world series, Hughes failed again.
Welcome ARod and Swisher, also welcome the replay to world series, we needed that in another plays, not only homeruns.
See the diferent betwen two runs & two base hit.

by eugesports on Nov 1, 2009 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

LOL!

KRUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

pettite kept...

the damage to a minimum. This phillies team is capable of scoring a ton of runs too. Thats why its so important for our bullpen to be solid. Robertson, Joba, and Marte look like our best options at this point. Unfortunately I wouldnt bother using hughes at this point, he does look intimidated out there. We need to score and take advantage of this hitter friendly ballpark tonight once again. Our pitchers cant afford to miss up in the zone at all here. Even Ruiz can make you pay for it.

by eddieo311 on Nov 1, 2009 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

The camera

ESPN Radio is now reporting that the camera was out of position and will be moved back for tonight. No big suprise FOX basically covered it up. Ironic though, with the Philly lovefest they had going lest night that their own camera provided a big assist to the Yanks. Although I do believe that would have been a home run had the camera not been there.

I’ve also heard that the umpires and both managers specifically agreed prior to the game that a ball hitting the camera would be a home run in their pre-game walkaround. Part of the reason they came back so quick from viewing the replay. Ball hit camera = home run.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Nov 1, 2009 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

According to Crew Chief Davis:

“It’s one of the specific ground rules,” crew chief Gerry Davis said. “If a ball hits one of the cameras: home run.”

Makes no sense that it was in the place it was. One Philly fan told me this morning it was sticking out three feet (from the side angle, it looks like about a foot, in reality). Also, from the side angle it looks like out worse it would have hit the top of the fence (likely to bounce over for a HR), more likely it would have cleared by about a foot. The same Philly fan said Tex should have been out on strikes with the inning over. Actually, Arod hits the HR with only one out. Jaded perspective, obviously.

by coops2001 on Nov 1, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

My question is

Did they move they camera after that? Or did the Philly fans just hope one of their guys hit it?

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Nov 1, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Hilarious

This:

Nick Swisher and Melky Cabrera taunting the Phillies fans in the outfield during Game 3, faking them out at the end of some innings as though they were going to throw the ball into the crowd, only to pull it back and run off the field.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Nov 1, 2009 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

I think they should go to Hughes again...

why not?

This is actually what Girardi usually does, given how many times they went to Bruney over the course of the season.

I think, that as long as the situation is like last night, they go to Hughes again. If the score’s tighter, no way does Hughes come in. Its the WS and if any sort of 8th inning lead dwindles, its MO time.

I was impressed with Joba tho, he deserves the 8th inning duty, then Hughes if its 4 runs or more like last night just to potentially lighten the load on MO, at least for game 4.

Joba and Hughes are still the Yanks 2 best RP at this point (non-GOAT division of course…), so you gotta go to them.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

whatever works

as long as it doesnt cost us the game. i think we should be seeing less of hughes and more of robertson

by Yanxsta on Nov 1, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

His stuff is too good and he’s too young to start giving up on him, especially after the regular season rebound he had this season from 2008.

Get us a big lead against Blanton tonight, and give Hughes 2 innings or so and a 2-3 run leash depending on our lead.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Nov 1, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Hughes

I have no problem going to the guy. I think you might see him earlier in a game, though. Joba threw the ball really well last night.

by Ed Valentine on Nov 1, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Good call

to bring him in with that lead, but also good call to take him out of the home run before things got out of control..Mo used 5 pitches to get 2 outs. That idiot Kruk was gloating on Baseball Tonight how it was a bad call because they had to use Mariano, and was corrected by one of the other analysts who told him that Mo only threw 5 pitches

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 1, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Good game!

Didn’t start well but it’s how you finish. I didn’t get to watch it, I was on the road coming back from the airport and was driving across PA, so I was glad the game was delayed, so I didn’t have to drive through post game Philly traffic. I was relegated to listening to Sterling and Co on XM radio but the weather and mountains made the broadcast go in and out, so regretfully had to switch over to the regular radio and ESPN radio listening to Jon Miller and yes…Joe Morgan. It was kind of funny switching over to the Philly broadcast hearing their announcers getting aggravated with the comeback.

I was rooting for Hughes really hard because of what he has done for us all year. It pained me to watch him give up the home run. Wonder if Joe sticks with him or we see Joba or Robertson instead. I was hoping he would get through that inning to get his confidence back.

Nick Swisher, thanks for arriving! It was awesome to see him respond to Girardi’s faith in him by hitting a homer and a double.

The Fox announcers are terrible, you can tell who they are rooting for. Same with John Kruk on ESPN and Mitch Williams on MLB network (go figure).

Andy, you didn’t start well but you gritted it out..that first homer he gave up to Werth was just one of those things, most guys don’t hit that ball, let alone out of the park.

I stopped on the PA Turnpike during the 2nd innning after hours of looking for a Taco Bell, and yes, I got not one but 3 Black Tacos…and they are GOOD!

Overall good game, not pretty but they scored runs and came back to win it…let’s go tonight CC!

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 1, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

As soon as the Yankees won

I went to the Taco Bell right across the street from my dorm and got my first ever Black Jack Taco.

This sticker is dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love Fig Newtons.

by Lord Duggan on Nov 1, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

I did the same after they won the first game it became teh Yanks rally food.

……I know it was free last night…and I still think it wouldn’t be worth it.

and I likes me some taco bell.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I had my first (and last) after the Yanks wrapped up the ALCS. Taco Bell is the only fast food place I still eat at, it’s that big a weakness. But, black jack tacos will not be missed when they go away.

by waw on Nov 1, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

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