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In Praise of Joe Girardi: Yankees win Game 3, 8-5

Joe G. gave Swisher a game off; Swisher came back with two crucial extra base hits.

Joe G. pulled Andy early.  Andy wasn't great tonight, but he was gutsy enough that I was willing to send him back out there.  He also collected the first World Series RBI by a Yankee pitcher since Jim Bouton in 1964- part of a game changing 5th inning in which the wheel came off for Cole Hamels (who pitched a great game- Victorino had caught the lazy flies by Pettitte and Jeter it could have been a very different game).

Joe G. showed uncommon trust for his set-up men, sticking with Joba against Chase Utley with 2 out.  His confidence was rewarded when Joba got Utley, allowing Joe to double switch Matsui, who promptly homered. Joe then stuck with Marte against the righties Werth and Ibanez.

My only complaint is about how Joe handled Hughes.  I like bringing him in with a safe lead in the 9th inning even though he gave up the homer to Ruiz.  I think you have to give Hughes 1 more batter in that situation.  One more batter would not be the tying run, and instead you deny yourself the chance to use Mo for 2 tomorrow (though he did only throw 5 pitches).  I like what Joe Buck reported Hughes said, "I was worrying too much about scouting reports and got away from my strength."

Speaking of Buck, after giving so much attention to the lack of volume at New Yankee Stadium, he didn't say a word about the disappearing Philly fans.  "Let's Go Yankees" "Huuuughes" and "Hip Hip Jorge" were the loudest chants from the 6th inning on.

The Phillies have established a pattern: if they hit homers they hit them in pairs.  Let that be a lesson for tomorrow- if someone gets into one, walk him the next time up.  Keep that in mind during Ruiz's first AB.

On the offensive front, Alex Rodriguez reminded the world that even if he has a rough couple of game, he's still one of the best players in the game.  Joe Buck will probably still be complaining tomorrow about the 'questionable' home run off the camera that had to be reviewed, but Arod did what was needed.  He also reached base on a walk and a pair of HBP.

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wow... recap already?

magic fingers eh?

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 1, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Started writing in 8th (though I don’t mention who’s winning so I don’t jinx it)- just put in facts.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks!

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 7:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry!
I should have given more warning that I was closing comments.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's okay

Follow me on Bebo: http://bebo.com/monkey4cougar

by TheMelkman on Nov 1, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post.

I hate having to watch the game on FOX.

by Ooofa on Nov 1, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THIS!

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hilarious

That should be green. I don;t know how many recs that takes here, but make it happen

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Nov 1, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully

J-Roll looks like Tom Brady in a few days.

by Travis G on Nov 1, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah...

the old “we’re only gonna score 17” idea.

Gotta say tho…even what may happen here with the Yanks…doesn’t top that game.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

memories. :D

but you’re right: that was one of the greatest sports moments in my life. similar to the ’96 Yanks and SB 25.

by Travis G on Nov 1, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WOW!!

2 games in a row Girardi “wins” for the Yanks?

THat’s like 2 in a row…cuz like, those 2 games , 3 and 5 in the ALCS…he should have been fired after theat.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no manager should be fired for what happened in those 2 games.

He’s learned, obviously by leaving Joba and Marte in today, but those 2 games weren’t as much his fault as it is thought.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with everything in that post

Joe’s Rivera move worked, but was almost certainly unnecessary.

by PortlandYankee on Nov 1, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Respectfully Disagree

The Phillies can hit, and are a defending champion. If you have a chance to win a WS game, you WIN it. Never give a dangerous team a chance to feel like they’re up off the mat.

by d_c_guy on Nov 1, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

These guys are speechless.

by Ooofa on Nov 1, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The announcers...

Seemed the least biased today of all games… perhaps they got word to be more neutral… but still about 6th inning on I got tired and put on USC-Oregon audio until that was over… so, its an improvement

by ZigKitsune on Nov 1, 2009 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can only hope...

…that Buck AND McCarver get depressed enough to end it.

by Sixstring59 on Nov 2, 2009 8:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Quick cut away

I think Joe and Tim might kiss

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 1, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Joe

Girardi has definitely proven he is a strategic magician with the recent moves, let’s hope the dugout strategy holds up… may I add that the strategy should include kicking Hughes in the ass for his performance as of late…

by NYSteel4 on Nov 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree about Hughes

I’m convinced it’s all confidence right now. That homer and quick hook doesn’t help him, but screw it really, we need to win……..

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Nov 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buck and McCarver sound like their parents just died....

not a single remark on the game, no post-game analysis…just we’ll see ya tomorrow.

Really, this whole playoff baseball thing needs to go away from Fox.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Fox shouldn’t be allowed to do anything but NFL, and I’m still not convinced there.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Nov 1, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they're OK on that...

merenly cuz Buck and Aikman don’t do EVERY game…..

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I’m surprised by the fact McCarver played baseball….. you figured he’d call a better game

by Gangsta Yanksta on Nov 1, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there's a reason we traded him to philly

and i think the WWL should be ashamed of how kruky blabbering on & on about the camera. talk about being biased, that was horrible.

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by gdm426 on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kruk was legitimately angry that a call went in favor of the Yankees.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 7:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FOX sucks

don’t forget that they had messed up the sound for the first two games… but maybe that was just my channel.. they announcers and pregame analysts are horrific.

by NYSteel4 on Nov 1, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1000000 for Kit Kaat

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Nov 1, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kaat was the best announcer I’ve heard. His stories had a purpose and when he didn’t have anything to add he would just watch the game.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 7:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1, indeed.

Costas, boy. If the month of October had a voice, it would, without question, be that of Bob Costas.

Sometimes, I feel bad for McCarver — he’s just an absent-minded baseball dork with no friends who probably sleeps in super-hero pajamas.

But the way Buck’s voice rises a few octaves everytime something goes against the Yankees, and the way he drones out a half-ass description of plays that favor the Yanks is enough for me to mute the game and listen to Pa Sterling and Hillbilly Suzyn.
Can’t we send Fox a petition to get rid of this clown? Is that too idealistic of me?

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Nov 1, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only Problem Is Its November

We just have to hope somebody outbids Fox for the MLB rights when they come up again. I just hope it is not ESPN. Miller/Morgan are even worse.

by YankeesJets on Nov 1, 2009 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paulie,

I think you should be the color commentator from now on

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 1, 2009 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Impossible. I curse way too much during games. Well, during the games on FOX, anyway. But Costas is my man for play-by-play, with good ol’ Jim Kaat as my analyst. I think that’s a bread-and-butter combination right there.

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Nov 1, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha

I don’t mind the potty mouth. But yeah, I’d like Costas back too.

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 1, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wish, i wish, i wish

NBC or CBS (or even ABC) had baseball. their sports coverage is SO much better.

by Travis G on Nov 1, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anything other than FOX.

tho the major networks would screw it up…

How about MLB Network?

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could deal with Al Leiter and another MLB Network Guy

I hope Buck gets jock itch in his throat, and dont get me started on McDouche.

by YankeesJets on Nov 1, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mlb network...

will never take the games as long as other stations want them… too much revenue for the league to pass up. greed of the league = suffering of the fans, but greed of the league also means more money to distribute which puts off the salary cap

by ZigKitsune on Nov 1, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would even take Nickelodeon

I was such a dangerous hitter I even got intentional walks in batting practice. ~Casey Stengel, 1967

by tarheel_highlander on Nov 1, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Lifetime?

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give it to Comedy Central. The mid-inning discussions with the manager would be way more interesting if it was done by Crank Yankers.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice come back win tonight!!!

Nice job from Swish, A-Rod and the Middle Relief (except Hughes). Two Wins away!!!!

by upstateNYYFan1984 on Nov 1, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least Mo only threw 5 pitches

I’m glad he did it, but why didn’t Rollins take a strike? His job was to get on base, but, failing that, he at least had to make Mo work. Glad he failed though.

by long time listener on Nov 1, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. I really thought Pettitte only had 5 innings in him, tops, but the Phillies started swinging more once the Yanks took the lead.

by long time listener on Nov 1, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Am So Happy That The Only Thing We Have To Bitch About Are Buck/McCarver

What a game, what a team, what a great managing job, what a quiet stadium!!

by YankeesJets on Nov 1, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can't really criticize the Mo move

he only threw five pitches, though i personally would’ve stuck with Hughes. the fly ball to Ruiz wouldn’ve been an out in Yankee Stadium. they still had a 3-run lead with 1 out.

great game for Swish, Arod, Damon.

by Travis G on Nov 1, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BIG contributions throughout the lineup

The only person who needs to get going right now is Cano

by PortlandYankee on Nov 1, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya gotta end it.

I agree, Hughes needs to have some confidence built…

yet now’s not the time for it.

MO for 2 outs, end the damn game.

You can’t worry about feelings right now.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, it's a World Series Game

only 2 outs left, Stairs coming up, Hughes just gave up a homer in bottom of order. Take the win. If you want to trust Hughes, you can do so in Game 4.

by Jim Bankoff on Nov 1, 2009 7:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ive been telling Joe Buck off on Twitter

Questioning his journalistic integrity.

by YankeesJets on Nov 1, 2009 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we can win tomorrow against Blanton...

he gives up lots HRs.. let go Yankees.. we can win this.. Hughes simply is not the same guy as during regular season. I agree that Mo didnt need to come in, but we needed that win Series changer. Yanks needed this to get the momentum on our side..

by YANK77 on Nov 1, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Use CC go up 3-1 and have a freebee game with Cliff Lee in game 5, and start Gaudin.

by upstateNYYFan1984 on Nov 1, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OR!!!

Gauding can give 6 solid innings, the bats can slap Lee around a bit, and win in 5.

Anyone who’s throwing in the Towel for game 5 needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP..

sorry for my French, but this sort of thought is unacceptable.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not just you upstate....

its ANYONE who’s throwing in the towel.

Yea, we may be at a disadvantage…but I excpect to WIN.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think 1 time he fooled us.. twice i doubt it..

we can bitch slap Lee around just have to be patient hitters..and our hitters can hot next game we can take his bitch ass.

by YANK77 on Nov 1, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agree. would love to finish them off in 5. the faster the better

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 1, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howard?

I’m still waiting on them to start ripping Howard like they love to do A-Rod so much. he has 9 ks and seven consecutive I think? A-Rod had his little slump and you woulda thought he had fallen off the dang earth

by blevs4 on Nov 1, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Howard's been getting owned all Series.

I think his double off of CC infuriated the Yanks

Yankees all day.

by Onishadow14 on Nov 1, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have mentioned Howard’s struggles, it just doesn’t seem they’ve harped on them as much.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We all thought Pedro would get bombed too, lets calm down on Blanton

While I think we got the edge, lets not go crazy just yet.

by YankeesJets on Nov 1, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I would love to win in 5

Just to show the irony of Rollins “bold” statement, he made earlier in the week.

I’d be like “IN YOUR MOUUUUUUUUTH”

Yankees all day.

by Onishadow14 on Nov 1, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hughes and Joba

Hughes is not effective when bridging the gap to Mo in the 9th. We need to flip hughes and joba since joba has the hot hand right now. hughes joba then rivera.

by eddieo311 on Nov 1, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

actually Marte has the hot hand

and with the lefty heavy phillies he can easily come in the 8th for howard, utley and ibanez

by lololol on Nov 1, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just about to say...

Marte has been doing his job

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 1, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marte was a closer before too...

so while I don’t think he was in the WS (or maybe he was with Chicago?), he could most def. be a setup man.

Actually, that’s why the Yanks got him in the first place, to be teh setup man for MO.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's good cuz of the lack of use this season

he’s fresh and ready to throw…hughes on the other hand has been used a lot and it maybe finally catching up with him

by lololol on Nov 1, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea..

looks like Hughes is a little tired.

He’s not at the 95 or 96 he was at his best.

He’s trying to blow hitters away with 92 and its not working. He also doesn;t have much command either….

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 1, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marte Is Making Cashman Look Like A Genius

And he is making up for the Nady end of that deal.

by YankeesJets on Nov 1, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Instaed Of Flipping Them, How About Leaving Hughes On The Bench

I am a big fan of Hughes but he cant handle the pressure right now.

by YankeesJets on Nov 1, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kruk is LIVID:)

He is so pissed off on Baseball tonight about the camera….saying it should be a double..lol

by BlackandGoldSSgt on Nov 1, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kruk. I think the last name says it all. It sounds like a sound I make when I’m fat, angry and drunk.

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Nov 1, 2009 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still

don’t see how anyone can question it being a hr. The front and top of the camera was a good 6 to 8 inches above the fence. Take the camera away and the ball lands in the stands. It’s not a difficult call.

by Yankees82 on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

He gets made fun of so much on PR

Everyone except Phillies fans hates his fake analysis.

Impossible not to have positive thoughts.

I want Sam Deduno to pitch already.

by bballrox4717 on Nov 1, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

srly?

awesome

im too busy watching the YES postgame show

Yankees all day.

by Onishadow14 on Nov 1, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

admit it was very close and be done with it

it wasn’t like it was gonna even go two rows deep
it could have, and I STRESS this, could have hit the railing and come back in play
topspin and backspin can be a bitch

by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Nov 1, 2009 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

That thing would have been over the rail. Unless the laws of physics decided to alter for that split second, it would have been over the rail by about an inch or two. But yes it was CLOSE i that is what you want to hear. But there is no “controversy”.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Nov 1, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well what i saw was, is that it looked like it was gonna hit on top of the rail

 but since there was no better view we’ll never know
also i’m not saying it wouldn’t have gone into the stands anyways

by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Nov 1, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you hear the whine coming outta philly?

man, i really hate fans of teams with the color of a used tampon…add the philthies to the sux and the fallen angels…whining, lying, hypocrite know-nothing morons one and all.

by NoMoreWeaver on Nov 1, 2009 1:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yankee fans only complain about their own team

not about umpires conspiring against them (Angels) or blown-calls (maybe we’ll discuss the overall state of umpiring) or just plain whinging about the fact we lost.

By and large, we come down very hard on our players, not the other team for winning.

by phonty on Nov 1, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are douches everywhere

Including in Yankee fandom. Believe it. And I’ve been a Yankee fan for almost 40 years.

by d_c_guy on Nov 1, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way

what was the deal with A-Rod getting plunked twice tonight?

by phonty on Nov 1, 2009 1:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we got plunked several times. tex got plunked last game and tonight and then alex got hit twice. not cool

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Nov 1, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah....

I’m not happy about that. I wonder if there were any warnings given. I could tell from the highlights that A-Rod was definitely pissed about the 2nd plunking tonight.

I’m glad they funneled those plunkings into hits or run-producing hits or something productive and didn’t start a fight.

by phonty on Nov 1, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah. It’s saying they want to pitch inside but don’t have good enough control.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 1, 2009 7:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

smilingj, you might be alright...

but youre the exception, sadly. btw, no real yankee fan i know/have seen/read blamed the umps for losing game 1 (or the two games in alcs) or somehow pretended that what happened (ie arod homer) didnt, and so on, etc

by NoMoreWeaver on Nov 1, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and the plunking is another thing i cant stand from the 'teams' in red

our guys DID get hit more than it would ordanarily be accounted for a loss of control. they sent our guys a msg, no doubt about it. thing is, our guys sent it right back. LOL

by NoMoreWeaver on Nov 1, 2009 1:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sucks that I can't post yet on the Good Phight

but I wanted to comment on:

Heard the last part of Manuel’s press conference. He said the umpires told him they decided, before the game, balls off the camera would be a home run, even though they knew the camera was hanging over the fence. And they didn’t bother to tell anyone! So basically, the umpires made up a ground rule and kept it to themselves.
  You can also argue with overturning whether it’d be a home run. It may have, but it seems hard to say it definitely would have been. Given the ruling on the field, that’s a tough call. Yet the umpires didn’t seem to take long to decide.
  So I think this basically settles the argument about replay. If the same semi-competent people who decide plays on the field are reviewing the video, is there a point, really?
by phila on Oct 31, 2009 10:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

My comment is that even if they didn’t tell the teams, Joe Buck and Tim McCarver even seemed to think it was a HR based on the fact that it hit the camera plus the camera interfered with the ball’s trajectory into the stands.

Every recap of the game says “correctly” ruled it a home run (that I’ve read thus far from a media outlet, not a blog).

by phonty on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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