Molina vs. Posada, round two

An(other) attempt to settle the Burnett/Molina/Posada soap opera follows. I wanted to calculate and assign a run value to Molina's catching and compare it to Posada's batting.

(This whole article assumes Burnett's superior pitching to Molina is real and not just chance. Tom Tango, who is on par with Bill James as far as SABRmetricians go, says there's something to it.)

A.J. Burnett's OPS Against this year with -

Jorge Posada: .775

Jose Molina: .658

For a difference of .117

With the assistance of THT's OPS Run graph, a team OPS of .650 roughly equals 650 runs/year, which (dividing by 162 games) averages to 4/game. A team OPS of .770 roughly equals 810 runs/year, or 5/game. So holding a team to a .650 OPS in a single game causes them to score about four runs. A .770 OPS leads to about five runs.

Since starters rarely pitch complete games, I had to figure out what percentage of the full game Burnett usually threw.

He averaged 27 batters faced (PA)/game this year (895 PA divided by 33 starts). The AL average for a full game was 38.55 PA/game.

27/38.55 = .7, meaning Burnett pitched for an average of 70% of the total game.

Holding hitters to the lower OPS of .650 (Burnett's OPS Against with Molina catching) - which means about four runs/game, I multiplied four runs by .7 (70%), which equals 2.8.

2.8 is the number of runs Burnett should average in a normal start with Molina catching (only counting the opponent's hitting, not their baserunning).

The higher OPS of .770 (Burnett's OPS Against with Posada catching) leads to five runs/game. That times .7 equals 3.5, which is the number of runs Burnett should average in a normal start with Posada catching (again, without accounting for baserunning).

That is a difference of .7 runs/game in favor of Jose Molina.

Now to their hitting

The good news is that Molina will only get 2-3 PA in game 2. As soon as Burnett is out, Posada will replace him in the lineup. So considering Molina will hit ninth, and he'll only go as long as Burnett (about 6-7 innings), he'll have a minimal offensive impact on the game.

Posada's 2009 OPS: .885

Molina's: .560, for a difference of .325.

Going back to the OPS Run graph, we know that a .100 difference in OPS is equal to about 235 runs/season (for a whole team). Since we're comparing individual players, the calculations must continue.

Since .100 OPS = 235 runs, and the difference between Molina and Posada is .325, we do this: 235 x 3.25 = 764 runs.

So a lineup of Posadas will score about 764 runs/season more than a lineup of Molinas. Then we divide 764 by 162 games = 4.7 runs/game (a lineup of Posadas will score 4.7 runs/game more than a lineup of Molinas). There are nine hitters in a game, so we divide 4.7 by 9 = .52 runs per game per hitter. The average hitter got 4.3 PA/game this season (38.55 PA/9 hitters), but since Posada will hit fifth or sixth, let's say he'll get an even four PA/game. .52 runs/game divided by 4 PA = .13 runs/PA. So Posada is worth .13 runs per PA more than Molina. That sounds about right.

If Molina gets 2 PA instead of Posada, it costs the Yankees .26 runs (3 PA costs them .39 runs), so the .7 runs better Burnett is with Molina more than offsets his lower offensive production. In fact, it would appear to give the Yankees anywhere from a .31 to a .44 run advantage. So the Yankees are about a third to a half a run better with Molina catching Burnett than Posada (if Molina only gets 2-3 PA in the game). Molina would have to get more than five PA (.7 divided by .13) for him to become less valuable than Posada. And all this doesn't even account for Molina's superior defense, both at blocking pitches in the dirt and at throwing out baserunners, which I'll try to quantify now:

Back to defense

Posada caught 785 innings this year. Molina caught 356.2 (almost half). So I'll equalize by multiplying Molina's stats by (785/356.2 =) 2.2 -

Posada had 7 errors. Molina had the equivalent of 2.2. Posada had 8 passed balls. Molina had 6.6. Posada had 41 wild pitches. Molina had 33. Both had the same caught stealing rate of 28%. And since it's nearly impossible to quantify the 'intimidation factor' of Molina's better arm (that prevents attempted steals), I won't account for that aspect.

So anyway, per 9 innings:

Errors - Posada .78, Molina .24

Passed balls - Posada .89, Molina .73

Wild pitches - Posada .47, Molina .39

Which means Posada allowed 2.14 'extra bases'/game. Molina allowed 1.36 'extra bases'/game (which is better).

Therefore, Posada allowed .78 'extra bases'/game more than Molina. How much is that worth in runs?

Each extra base is worth about .24 runs; .24 x .78 = .19. .19 x (Molina's time catching the game, 70%) .7 = .13. So .13 + (Molina's game-calling ability of) .7  = .83 runs, minus .13 runs/per PA Molina gets - does that make sense?

In other words, Molina's defense is worth +.13 runs/game, his 'Burnett game-calling' is worth +.7 runs/game, but his batting is worth negative .13 runs/PA (all relative to Posada).

So Molina's catching/defense is worth almost a full run more than Posada, but every PA he gets drops his value (though it would take more than six to make Posada the better choice):

Molina_vs 

(But again, we must remember this all assumes Burnett's superior pitching with Molina is real and more than just chance.)

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