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Blanton to start Game 4 for Phillies

The Phillies have announced they will start Joe Blanton in Game 4 instead of having Cliff Lee go on 3 days rest, according to ESPN.

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I am VERY happy to hear this. I would much rather face Blanton on full rest than Lee on short rest.

What does this mean as far as who the Yankees will send to the hill in Game 4, if anything? Looks like it'll be either CC on 3 days rest or Gaudin. I'm hoping for CC. We did it in the ALCS and it worked, I don't see why we shouldn't in the World Series.

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Send CC out anyways

and keep the pitchers all on 3 days rest. I don’t want to see Gaudin starting in this World Series. I’ll take any of our guys on 3 days rest over him (on over a months rest). Gaudin is a mop up guy. Nothing more.

If the Yankees are up 2 games to one, then I want CC pitching. Why? Well, I think in that situation, you should go for the 3-1 lead. With Lee going in Game 5, a 3-1 series lead would make me feel pretty good. Even if they lose, the Phils would have to win two games in Yankee Stadium to win the World Series. The Yankees have not lost to consecutive games at Yankee Stadium in a LONG time (or at least none that I can remember). I think that if Andy handles the Phillies tomorrow, then I think Joe should give the Yankees the best shot to take the 3-1 lead. And that best shot is Sabathia.

If the Yankees lose Game 3? Well then it’s a no brainer. You start CC in Game 4, which would turn into about as close to a must win as the Yankees will have had all season. If it’s 2-1 Phillies, then the Yankees HAVE to win Game 4, and not face elimination against Lee. CC would definitely pitch Game 4 in that situation.

Either way, I want CC out there in Game 4. He’ll be able to pitch 3 times, and give us our ace in a possible Game 7. A.J. has been successful careerwise on short rest starts, and Andy is the type of pitcher that I think would be able to do that. So……….

Andy game 3
CC game 4
A.J. game 5
Andy game 6
CC game 7

GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS- A-Rod, please start hitting. I’m sick of hearing idiot A-Rod haters coming out of their hole and bashing him after two bad games. I know they are idiots. But it would be nice if you could shut them up again. They are better that way.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 30, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

CC in Game 4 but...

I think you have to play it by ear. I don’t see a reason not to use CC on short rest in game 4 but we don’t know how Burnett will react to short rest and I think Andy on short rest is a very bad idea. Best case scenario, we win game 3, win game 4 with CC and game 5 is basically a free game where we can afford to throw Gaudin vs. Lee and hope for the best.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Oct 30, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they throw Gaudin out there in Game 5

then that means that if it goes to 7 games, Burnett or Pettitte (one of the two) will only get one start in the entire series. Not sure how I feel about that. Those are our top starters. They should all start at least twice.

Although if the Yanks do have a 3-1 lead, thats the only time I would accept that. I would freak if Joe uses Gaudin in a 2-2 or 1-3 matchup.

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 30, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't like Pettitte on 3 days

He’s 4-6, 4.15 on short rest in his career, not including that awful start in game 5 vs. Oakland in 2000 but he’s also in his late 30’s now and it’s just unrealistic to expect him to pitch well on short rest. If we’re up 3-1 I like the idea of Gaudin up 3-1 rather than Pettitte up 3-2.

Another thought…Joba hasn’t pitched yet in this series. He hasn’t been good out of the pen anyway. Would Girardi consider giving him the start over Gaudin in game 5?

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Oct 30, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knowing Girardi

he would. Yankees haven’t announced anything, although everybody is assuming Gaudin.

Joba starting? The last time he did that a MONTH ago he threw 100 pitches in 3 innings to the Royals. And he hasn’t started in a month (although neither has Gaudin). I hope Joba won’t start. He actually hasn’t been terrible out of the pen. He’s not the automatic version of 2007, but he’s still been ok (except for those two games in Anaheim).

by nyyrocks29 on Oct 31, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has to be CC in game 4

Phillies are making a big mistake hare I think. Sure, they have a favorable matchup with Lee against AJ in game 5, but it also means they only throw him twice and they would have…gulp…Cole Hamels on the mound for a potential Game 7. CC vs. Cole Hamels? Who do you guys take in that one.

If we do wind up winning the World Series, it could very well be because of this move.

by GMan83201 on Oct 30, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Philleis seem to Hit CC very well

 I am NOT truyng to piss anyone off here but again the stats show that the Phillies
 do seem to hit CC well

CC Sabathia career stats versus the Phillies: 0 wins 3 losses 20.2 IP, 4.35 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, .265 BAA

by DT1 on Oct 31, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

those stats are meaningless.

If you don’t want to piss anyone off, try stating some stats that hold some value.

20 innings is meaningless, especially since 7 of those innings were quite dominant in the WS already.

Last year’s playoffs are irrelevant, CC pitched about 30 innings in a week before that Phillies game.

Also during IL play this year, CC wasn’t pitching well against anyone.

ALl those stats state is that its likely CC gets a win and dominates the next time out to even them out a little bit.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry dont see that

all I said was that it seem that the phillies do well against him …

I did not say CC sucks..

 I did not say that those stats mean the Phillies are Likely to win when he starts next time

by DT1 on Oct 31, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly...

they “seem” to do well.

Seem and the small sample size, mean those stats are meaningless.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Phillies have a deeper starting rotation than the Yanks. The 3 man rotation is the only way for the Yankees to go.

But it’s not a mistake for the Phillies until they lose the game at home. We have to capitalize on Hamels and Blanton.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Oct 30, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Given how this season is going

I would be surprised if we don’t capitalize on Hamels and Blanton. The question now is, what is more of a risk: the weak back end of the Phillies’ rotation or the potentially weak arms on our starters on short rest?

by GMan83201 on Oct 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

We should destroy both of these guys. So both of them frighten me. I have to believe we’ll explode against one of them, but there’s really no reason we shouldn’t be up 3-1 by Monday morning.

by long time listener on Oct 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Brett Tomko.....

and all the Twins pitchers.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

Blanton is a good pitcher, much better than Gaudin. If he was the Yanks 4th starter? I’d want him to go in the 4th one too.

But its nice to see they aren’t worried about Game 3 to be announcing this. Maybe they know something we all don’t?

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I think of this as a big opportunity for Yankees.

My prediction… 6.2 IP… 7H… 4R…1HR…3BB..

Last 2 times he’s faced the Yankees we made him WORK! he lasted only 6.2IP and threw over 110 pitches each outing… If the Yankees stay consistent they could have a real opportunity for a Win…

Hoping the Yankees win Game 3 with Andy dealing, there’s potential on heading back to NY in game 6 with a 3-2 lead!

by Fluke on Oct 30, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

lets sweep them instead

and just win it in their place its only a short ride home on the train.

by justinxyankeesfan on Oct 30, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Drama is over-rated

by waw on Oct 30, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

not against the Yankees....

and more the reason to think they’ll drop a few (like 3 in a row…)

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL likely to drop 3 in a row??? LIkely??

 Possible ? sure…

Likely ? I am not the one saying sweep
I respect the NYY

 same cant be said for you

by DT1 on Oct 31, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

"likely"

…didn’t say that.

Your stats are meaningless, as is putting words where they weren’t said.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...

more meaningless stats. Just like the “lost all their game 2” stat…its just such a meaningless idea to go an base anything off that stat.

Like the CC thing above ^^, its more reason to believe that the OPPOSITE will happen to even that little streak out.

So go take that crap back to the “Good Phight”.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

Gotta beat Hamels and Blanton. Hell, if we do that, let Lee have game 5 to himself and start Gaudin then. Bring Burnett home to lock it up in the Stadium………..

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 30, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

That's my feeling

We don’t know how Burnett will react on short rest (historically he’s pretty good), but there are serious question marks about Andy on 3-days.

G3 Andy-Hamels: Favors the Yanks
G4 CC-Blanton: Favors the Yanks
G5 Gaudin/Aceves-Lee: Basically concede this to the Phils.
G6 AJ-Pedro: Toss up
G7 CC-Hamels: big-time favors the Yanks (if Lee goes in Game 5, he’s have to be on 2-days rest to pitch G7).

by PortlandYankee on Oct 30, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although

The Yankees always do better the second time around on guys, especially within such a short period of time. How wild would it be for Guadin to be the winner in the clinching game?

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 30, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

If Burnett just carries 80% of what he had last night in to Game 6, we’ll be in great shape imo. I just don’t think Pedro will be able to repeat even what he did last night in another game at the Stadium so soon.

As long as AJ doesn’t give up 4 in the first again, we’ll be sittin’ pretty.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 30, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

ssshhh....

as far as AJ’s concerned….the Phillies batted around before he records an out.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 30, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've noticed that too

he does seem to do better when he’s pitching from behind rather than from ahead doesn’t he?

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Oct 30, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 1996

Joe Torre considered using a three-man rotation but decided it would weaken the entire fence, not just one link. Since Game One in 96 was rained out and not played until Sunday, Pettite started against Smoltz in Game 1 and then Torre was OBLIGATED to start him on three-days rest in Game 5 because there was no off-day for travel from NY to Atlanta. It went Pettite, Key, Cone, Rogers, Pettite, Key. Torre’s intention was that if there was to be a Game 7 Cone should start it. The series went Sunday through Thursday, then an off day, with Jimmy Key Pitching on full rest in the clincher on Saturday October 26th 1996. Pettite was 24 at the time but Torre had no intention of using him on three-days rest. He simply wound up having to due to the weather. Sabathia is 29 now and can certainly start on three-days rest, but this means that Burnett and Pettite will have no choice but to pitch on three-days rest as well. I can see how that would have an effect on Pettite because he’s 37 (that alone is enough reason) and even if he’s not a hard thrower a short rest would undoubtedly signify a decrease in velocity for him and he gets a lot of fly ball outs on high fastballs and cutters because of the way he properly uses his off-speed pitches to set up the high fastball. He pitches higher in the strike zone than most people think (cutter and fastballs, usually in the high to low nineties, even 92) and if that velocity is decreased it may be easier for those hitters to get on top of those pitches. Even if it’s the pattern and the pitch that get the lazy fly ball out it’s not as easy to get with a drop-off in velocity. Burnett has a sinker which he almost never uses along with a rarely-see change up. Burnett was already losing 2-4 mph off his pitches in the third inning last night and that’s cause he throws only two pitches mainly, fastball and curve. If Burnett’s consistently in the low 90’s (90-92) I see that as a problem and if he goes on three-days rest he should use the sinker and pitch to contact more. His sinker comes in at about 92-93. Obvioiusly the idea is to have CC pitch in the 7th game if it comes down to one but if that negatively affects the other pitchers I have to question if it’s worth it. I suppose that now that we know that Cliff Lee won’t be starting Game 4 we could simply theorize that even a below standard CC should be enough to beat Joe Blanton cause he won’t shut us down like Lee might. We used to hit Blanton pretty hard when he was in the AL. He pitches to contact and throws strikes like Jon Lieber. The best thing that could happen is to pitch CC in Game 5 and Gaudin in Game 4 (Gaudin is not a slouch. He struck out thirteen in a game earlier in the year when he was with SD. He averaged about a strikeout an inning as a starter and long man with the Pads. He has a great slider) and then we get a couple of days of rain in New York so Burnett can pitch Game 6 and CC in Game 7 on normal rest. My main concerns are Burnett and Pettite on short rest. It’s risky.

by chambliss76 on Oct 30, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

paragraphs please

looks like good stuff, but tough to read.

by Travis G on Oct 30, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It depends

I start CC on short rest regardless in game 4. He showed he can handle it, and we need him available for game 7.

However, if we are up 3-1, I start Gaudin/Aceves in game 5. Why throw Burnett on 3 days rest against Lee who will probably pitch great if we don’t have to. This way Burnett is rested for game 6 and Andy (4 days) and CC (3 days) are both available for game 7 (which hopefully won’t be needed).

If it’s 2-2, I think I roll the dice with AJ in game 5.

by stusviews on Oct 30, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it all depends on what happens in Game 3

If Pettitte wins game 3, then I think we should go with Gaudin in Game 4. A Gaudin/Blanton matchup is pretty much a 50/50 shot at a win, and the Yankee offense seems to do well in Gaudin’s starts. Gaudin can go 4-5 innings and you can empty the bullpen in support of him, because you know CC will give you innings in game 5. Worst case, if we lose both of those games we still go back to Yankee Stadium with AJ and Andy on full rest with CC available in relief in Game 7.

If we lose game 3, then its a no brainer – CC has to pitch in game 4 to make sure this series gets back to NY. Can’t take a chance in those 50/50 matchups I talked about above.

I think the only way all 3 starters pitch on short rest is if Joe is forced to do it by facing elimination. Game 3 is HUGE…

by lank20125 on Oct 30, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone just hear that? The Phillies just shot themselves in the foot.

But seriously, wasn’t the plan to go with the 3 man rotation anyhow? I know Gaudin was throwing more and more behind the scenes, but was it official that he had a slot?

I’m not sure where I stand on the CC on short rest thing. If Andy can get Game 3, I say you still go CC Game 4. Game 7 you could throw the kitchen sink if it came down to it.

3 more wins to go......Dethroning a paper champion is all I care about. Yea,I said it. You're Welcome.

by ReggieARodJeter on Oct 30, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

This is tricky. It is my dream to separate Sabathia and Lee. And we could do it by pitching C.C. in game 4. But I am REALLY concerned about Burnett and Petitte. This is something to be seriously concerned about. Because we could easily win games 3 and 4 and lose three straight because the other starters can’t pitch effectively under those conditions. The issue is not how we can have C.C. for three starts. It is what we can do to get a good quality start or the best one possible in each and every game. C.C. vs. Lee in the NL park is a game that the Yankees could win if C.C. is as dominant as he can be and Lee is just a drop less good. Again it is all going to come down to middle relief.

by Dougrhon on Oct 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

another idea

is to pitch CC in Game 4 against Blanton and Gaudin vs. Lee in Game 5 (almost throwing in the towel) to keep AJ and AP on regular rest in Game 6 & 7.

by Travis G on Oct 31, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

This is the best idea for sure

If we have a 3-1 lead going into game 5. They have to pitch Lee, and we can throw Gaudin to the wolves, or see if “good” Joba might make an appearance to give us a chance. Either way, AP and AJ need to be on regular rest if we’re gonna depend on them for a game 6 and 7

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 31, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

and then CC for relief?

Why not?

I don’t like the thought of throwing a game…I know that’s what it would look like with Gaudin out there…but who’s to say the Yanks don’t beat the hell out of Lee and Gaudin gives em a quality start?

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

If there is a G7

It will be CC, but Andy will probably be warm as well.

by PortlandYankee on Oct 31, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

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