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Game 2 Managing Genius

For as much criticism as Joe Girardi gets from Yankee fans on this sight and all over I think its about time we gave him credit for an absolutely brilliant job managing game 2. From starting Molina at catcher and Hairston in the outfield to knowing when to pitch run Gardner and pinch hit Posada and going straight to Mo for the six out save. I mean that was managing perfection last night. C'mon people give the man some props.


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I would never

call a manager a genius or an idiot. You go for it on 4th and 1 and make it, you’re a genius. You miss, you’re an idiot.

We have no idea what might have happened had Posada and Swisher started. Hairston got one well-timed hit. And with the way our vaunted setup men have faltered, going to Mo for 6 outs seems more like desperation than genius.

I always feel pressure. What I don't have is fear. -- El Duque

by LateInningRelief on Oct 30, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Whatever....

We get 9,000 Fanposts questioning every bad move..so I guess its nice to finally see a fanpost when a move works like this…perfectly i might add.

Is he a genius? No. Was he ever an idiot? Also, no.

He’s a good manager is all. We still all don’t realize the guy’s in his 3rd year managing a team at all, and he’s learning.

He’s OBVIOUSLY doing well in his first playoff experience, so he deserves the props.

 As for the negativity, it comes with the territory of being the manager, also being NY’s manager where our Venom is deadlier than Austrailia’s 10 deadliest snakes

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 30, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Free Bradshaw my sentinments

exactly I wasn’t trying to say Joe Girardi is actually a genius. Its just me over reacting positively to a job well done when we have a lot of others over reacting negatively whenever a mistake is made. And its true we’ll never know what would have happened if Posada and Swisher stared, but we do know what happened when Hairston and Molina started. And i’m not saying we need to bench Swisher and definitely not Posada don’t get me wrong. I’m just happy Girardi did well.

by bronx joey on Oct 30, 2009 12:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well.....

Like the first post said, if you win the game and you’re a genius, if not you’re an idiot.

But just because you won while starting Jose Molina and Jerry Hairston doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do.

by 3460kuri on Oct 30, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IMO

It’s difficult to judge a manager in the short term, or game-by-game basis. You have to look at the entire season or even at multiple seasons. For instance, Torre is a great manager by most accounts, but he has this nasty habit of ruining pitchers. Girardi seems to be the anti-Torre as far as that goes with his overuse of situational pitching. Somehow I think that type of stuff ruins confidence in the long run instead of the arms like Torre used to do.

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 30, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Girardi ruins confidence...

Torre ruins ARMS.

….guys need to suck it up. Girardi should tone down the overmanagment…but in no way should he copy Torre. Throwing STRIKES is what they need to do, instead of falling behind hitters. This is what plagued those that were there early in the season and its plaguing them now.

He may have taken the anti-Torre BP management to the extreme tho….

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 30, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK .. here it goes...

I always felt Torre was a good manager, not a GREAT manager. He was GREAT at dealing with the NY media and the Boss.

But, it was Showalter who built up that team .. a GREAT core. Any Good to Great manager was going to win a bunch. (Showalter did the same in Arizona – the next year’s manager – Brenly – got the WS win).

I always felt Torre was a sleepwalker as a manager. Penciled the same names, went to the same pitchers in the pen… I am an old-timer, I like to see more small ball. More offensive strategy. IMO – Near the end … he seemed to not even try.

by NY on Oct 31, 2009 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If 4 titles in five years

doesn’t mean you’re a great manager i don’t know what does

by bronx joey on Oct 31, 2009 8:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

5 titles in 5 years......

….LOL!.

If Showalter was so good…why didn’t win with them?

Torre’s doing a pretty good job with a real young Dodgers team. A team, I might add, that was better without Manny this season.

The Dodgers are gonna be good for a long time. Maybe Torre gets the “Showalter effect” this time and teh Dodgers win get to the WS when he goes (they aint winning …the Yanks will win that year :).

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I don’t mean to imply that Torre wasn’t good for the Yankees. I certainly appreciated watching those 4 WS wins. Just saying that some pitchers out in LA might want to go ahead and start icing their arms now. ;-)

I told you we would beat Georgia!! Now, as for those 9 wins in '09......
I got bored and made a blog!! SCS

by VolBrian on Oct 31, 2009 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, please...

Girardi has some strengths as a manager. Yes, he’s helped in making the Yankees a happy bunch of millionaire ballplayers as opposed to moody discontents. HELPED. But strategically as a game manager?

It may come as a surprise to some of you who think Girardi is great, but great ballplayers will often win even with a manager who isn’t that great.

I don’t think there is any sign of genius in Girardi’s game 2 moves. For starters, I think lots of managers would have tried another outfielder for Swisher by this time. As for Molina HAVING to catch Burnett? I think taking away Posada’s bat for two games in a World Series because you haven’t prepared your number two pitcher psychologically to pitch with him (if that’s the case) is far from genius. It worked out in game two, but would anyone out there seriously trade Molina’s glove and .217 avg and .560 OPS for Posada’s .885 OPS? This is something that could cost you the championship.

Look, the everyday, normal stuff of baseball isn’t what distinguishes a good manager. It’s the foresight and imagination to check out all possibilities and be prepared for them. Girardi had literally weeks (and, really, probably months) knowing he was going to the postseason.

Do you think, say, Earl Weaver would wait to the DAY BEFORE game 3 of the World Series to see if Matsui could play right field? Knowing that there are three games in which the DH wouldn’t be used, don’t you think any good manager in Girardi’s situation might have tried Matsui in right field for A FEW INNINGS HERE AND THERE – possibly even a game or two – to see if he was capable of playing, considering what a potent force his bat has been this year, his proven ability to perform in the postseason, the possibility that he might be hot and Swisher might not at the time? Isn’t it a manager’s job to think in advance of these possibilities – especially in the postseason, especially in the World Series – rather than being surprised by EVERYTHING and working it out at the time?

I know there are some out there who think Girardi’s great and all the Yankees success rests upon his shoulders (in which case, he was poor last year) — but other than those people, I’m sure I’m not the only one who can’t believe he’s JUST NOW trying to decide whether it’s feasible to try Matsui in right field? I mean, wouldn’t you think it’s a manager’s job to have thought about this in advance? It seems to me Girardi is paid a lot of money to BE PREPARED for situations.

by yankee-face on Oct 31, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matsui in RF?

Matsui can’t move. He can’t run from home to first. You don’t have to prepare for that. The only way they even trot him out there is if he was going all A-Rod in the first 2 games of the WS…which he’s not

I’m sure that in practice they hit him a few fly balls. Obviously he can’t do it. Which I’m sure they did weeks ahead of time (just cuz he didn’t announce it on that fool Mike Francesca’s show, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen).

No one says Girardi is responsible for all the success (no manager EVER is…..), but some say he’s responsible for all the failure (which also, no manager EVER is).

Matsui doesn’t belong in the field. The only time you could ‘think about it’ would be if the guy’s tearing the cover off the ball, then you just pray that nothing finds him out there.

Trying him out there for a few innings isn’t gonna make Matsui move any faster….he simply can’t play the field.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 31, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs


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