Yanks get shut down 6-1. Cliff Lee deals, Yankees cannot.
by CrazyYankeeChick on Oct 28, 2009 11:44 PM EDT
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I can't do this.
I blame my sister for this one, actually, who decided a good time to pick a fight would be the second inning of the f'n World Series. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I DON'T DATE ANYONE DURING BASEBALL.
Ugh.
How much more do you need to know here? The Yankees got shut down by Cliff Lee. CC Sabathia let up 2 solo homeruns to Chase Utley and Chase Utley. David Robertson, once the Houdini of bases-loaded-jams, gave up a base hit in the 8th to Raul Ibanez to make it 4-0.
Then Ryan Howard doubled in the 9th for 2 more runs. A couple of meaningless baserunners in the the bottom of the inning allowed Derek Jeter to score, but it was too much for even the Yanks to overcome.
We lost out first game at home.
A.J. Burnett better rip the Phillies a new you-know-what tomorrow.
Til then...
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We get em tomorrow show Pedro who Daddy is again
God I love this team when your down there is no were to go but up. We win tomorrow.
by OregonYank on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell just happened?
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We were shut down by a once in a lifetime pitching performance
If Cliff Lee pitches like that in game 4 we won’t see game 7. But I have a funny feeling this game was a wake up call to the Yankees.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 28, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get real
Suck it up and be a baseball fan — not just a Yankee fan. THAT was far from a “once in a lifetime” performance.
I love the Yanks. Love CC. Cliff Lee is one bad ass pitcher and we’re gonna have to deal with him in this series. He’s comin’ back and we better be ready.
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What on earth are you talking about
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 29, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just not once in a lifetime because
Lee is that good.
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is going to pitch
A complete game 10k no ERs with 0 walks against the 2009 Yankees TWICE in the World Series. So yes it IS once in a lifetime performance.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 29, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure, ok
‘cept
1. You don’t really know that. You’re just hoping (me too).
2. 3 K’s, 5ER’s and 4 walks against the 2009 Yankees would have sufficed tonight.
My point is… Lee ain’t going away. And he CAN be that good, or almost as good, again.
AJ better step up.
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
read down a little bit...
then you’ll see how rare Lee’s pitching was last night.
Add taht to the face it was against the Yankees….
HLGD#1 is right. Once in a lifetime performance.
..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...
...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.
---Carl
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 29, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh, "Twice" in a lifetime...?
“For the second straight start, Lee struck out 10 and walked none. "
Why have a silly argument about the color of curtains on the Titanic with regard to last night’s performance.
I repeat. Cliff Lee is lurking and we’re going to have to deal with him. “Once in a lifetime” implies a whole lot of luck and a level of performance we’re not going to see again.
The numbers prove that to be a very unwise conclusion. Let’s just agree however to call it a “shared wish” — because there’s nothing right about “once in a lifetime.”
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you guys just call a truce?
You’re both looking at the same facts on the ground and seeing what you want to see.
One guy points out (correctly) that Lee’s performance was so historically unusual that it’s unlikely to be repeated.
The other guy points out (also correctly) that Lee doesn’t have to repeat this performance, a lesser but typical-for-him performance will still present our Yankees with a real challange.
Guess what guys? You’re both right. Now can we please move on?
by pinstriper on Oct 29, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see Cliffs post season
33 innings and 2 earned runs with 3 wins
not too shabby
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Oct 29, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee
is a good pitcher, and he’s been nothing short of phenomenal this postseason for the Phillies. however, eventually he will come down from that some. he still won’t suck by any means, but those numbers are incredible. eventually everything reverts back to the norm, and stats like that aren’t the norm for anyone. i’m hoping tonight just serves to p*&$ off the Yankees.
"When my time on Earth is gone, and my activities here are past, I want they bury me upside down so all my critics can kiss my a**"- Bob Knight
"All the arguing in the world can't change the decision of the umpire."- Lou Gehrig. Got that Aybar?
by JumpinJackFlash on Oct 29, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true Lee has been great so far this post season
I hoping that if, and that’s a big if, he falls he doesn’t fall too far
and by the way CC wasn’t bad himself tonight, just a little tough luck with two pitch placement
Chase will kill you when you make a mistake
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Oct 29, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC
didn’t have a bad night. just not has dominant as he was in the ALCS, but again he was eventually going to come down and revert back to his norm. fortunately, CC’s norm is still good. Lee too will revert back to norm, hopefully this series, and he’ll still be a good starter he just won’t be ERA of less than 1 good. you won’t see a performance from anyone as dominant as tonight’s performance by Lee but once in a blue moon.
"When my time on Earth is gone, and my activities here are past, I want they bury me upside down so all my critics can kiss my a**"- Bob Knight
"All the arguing in the world can't change the decision of the umpire."- Lou Gehrig. Got that Aybar?
by JumpinJackFlash on Oct 29, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct. The last time a pitcher threw a complete game,
10 strikeout, no walk performance was 1903. I’d say that was almost the definition of Blue Moon.
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh come on…give credit where due. Lee pitched wonderfully.
Sabathia pitched very well too. Lee just pitched slightly better.
by Bilzo on Oct 29, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hoping the Yankee offense rip Pedro a new you-know-what
Thank God for making us Yankees.
by noonoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe several you-know-whats
Thank God for making us Yankees.
by noonoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cliff Lee has been lights out.
Let’s see how the rest of their staff holds up after Pedro goes five innings.
by Jack Zullo on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whens the last time a team has lost game one, then came back to win a world series?
i had a baseball book that said the stats of the world series from 1995 to 2004, for some reason skipping 1996, and all the world series winners won game one. i need something to tell my yankee hater friends that game one doesn’t matter too much.
"I'm not superstitious, just a little stitious"- Michael Scott
by GTWYankee on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Game one winners tend to win the series
Teams up 3-0 also tend to win a 7 game series as well, we were on the receiving end of the blip in that stat. So I wouldn’t be too worried. We lose tomorrow… yeah I would start worrying.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we lose tommorow we'll just do what we did in 1996
"Yes we lost and yes we are upset. But like all Champs we will bounce back."
Osi umenyiora
by donnybaseball23 on Oct 29, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game 1 winners
It turns out that since 1996, only 2 teams have lost game 1 at home to come back and win the WS: NYY in 96 and LAA in 02. 1996 was really bleak before Game 3. But the Yanks came all the way back taking all 3 games at Atlanta.
Philadelphia had the best road record in the majors.
That being said, one can never rule out any outcome in a 7 game series as we all have seen in 04.
Game 2 is an absolute must win for the team.
Let’s Go Yankees!!
by Bayareanyy on Oct 29, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you for blessing us with a lil history.
I remember the 96 series, the “upstart” Yanks vs the “power house” Braves. We lost the first two and it seemed that all hope was lost. Now the flip side is what happened to us in 04. Being up 3-0 and then having a mental breakdown. So anything can happen in the post season. Lets not forget that we are not playing a team that came out of left field. This isnt the Marlins of 03. Its the defending world champs so we have to take our lumps. I just hope we have a few lumps to deal out ourselves. If not this is gonna be a short series. But we do have history on our side………1923…opening season of The House that Ruth Built…World Series Champs…….2009…opening season of The House that George Built…..we will see!!!!!
by Poppi on Oct 29, 2009 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's time to Bench Nick "The Pop-out extraordinaire" Swisher, put Gardner in Center
and Melk man in right.
by Jack Zullo on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why?
The rest of our lineup didn’t do any better. Don’t blame it on Swisher…
by Gelatin on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
coz he hasn't done squat this postseason
and not even drawing walks at his usual rate.
by Scooby Snacks on Oct 29, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But he has done nothing all post season. I am a HUGE Nick fan but he needs to sit put one game and get Gardner in there.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 29, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes no sense.
Listen, if Swisher didn’t get benched after how poorly he did in the ALDS and ALCS, what makes you think Girardi would bench him for not doing well when Cliff Lee shut down everyone but Jeter? Think a little.
by Gelatin on Oct 29, 2009 12:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Because
This is the world series and we are down 0-1. Nick has done NOTHING all post season. No walks, no hits, just pop ups and strike outs. We don’t have many games left for him to “get right”.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 29, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If for no other reason to shake things up a bit...
…get the competitive juices going and shit like that. I like Nick as much as anyone, but he is the embodiment of an easy out right now for whatever reason.
by Sixstring59 on Oct 29, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our offense could not adjust to Lee, it seemed liek they were trying to do too much
It’s not like Lee is unhittable, just ask Jeter. He didn’t have any trouble hitting Lee
by lololol on Oct 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Listen
I don’t think any team in baseball in recent history would have won that game with Lee pitching like that. His pitches were filthy, this was not a total offensive failure this was a DOMINATING pitching performance. Jeter is just Jeter.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 29, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely nothing wrong with
losing to a great pitching performance. Let’s go get em tomorro
by BernBabyBern on Oct 29, 2009 12:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
on the bright side
after a performance like that the only way to go is up. Swisher needs to sit a game, maybe it’ll get his head on straight or stop taking batting advice from his actress gf and start listening to his batting coach. start Gardner, his speed will be an asset for a full game and can’t do any worse at the plate than Swisher right now. unfortunately, Burnett is a head case so i have no faith in him. he can be great, but is equally unpredictable and unreliable.
i predicted Yankees in 6, but wasn’t expecting a performance like this in a game 1 loss.
"When my time on Earth is gone, and my activities here are past, I want they bury me upside down so all my critics can kiss my a**"- Bob Knight
"All the arguing in the world can't change the decision of the umpire."- Lou Gehrig. Got that Aybar?
by JumpinJackFlash on Oct 29, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CYC...So who won the fight for top bunk?
by Scooby Snacks on Oct 29, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I won peace and quiet for the rest of the series
as much as P&Q is actually possible anyway.
by CrazyYankeeChick on Oct 29, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there tonight...
it all just sucked… the weather sucked. the game sucked. sucky sucky suck suck… it sucked.
Go get ’em AJ, we need you big time.
by NumberSeven on Oct 29, 2009 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And the winner of the "Bad time to ask..." Award goes to...
me.
Wasn’t there a moment when we were toying with the idea of entering the Cliff Lee sweepstakes this summer?
Refresh my memory — what was the asking price? Hughes, Joba, Melky, etc….?
(or was it never considered)
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh lord
Are you gonna be THAT guy? Hey maybe we should have gotten Halladay AND Lee? Probably could have picked up VMart too no? Yankees won 103 games. Their record in the post-season for the ALDS and ALCS is 7 – 2. The Yankees lost to a phenomenal pitching performance and the only thing you have to say is “I told you! We should have gotten Lee!!”. Well we didn’t and I still like our chances.
by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 29, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez Happy
Can’t I ask a question?
Where did I say
"I told you! We should have gotten Lee!!".
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's one game but some people are already crowning the phillies as world series winner
damn that’s annoying as hell. Maybe we should just skip the next few games right?
by lololol on Oct 29, 2009 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unless AJ wakes up
can we just skip the next one and fast forward to Andy?
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They need to bring Hinske and bench Swish
And they need to quit swinging at bat pitches, Tex is a reincarnation of Arod from the last postseasons. CC served those two pitches to Utley in a silver platter, simple as that. Lee was sharp and CC not so much. Tomorrow we take down old man Pedro, simple as that. I’m thinking the Yanks hadn’t played against Lee in a long long time and didn’t know much about his stuff. In the other hand, the phillies scouts where already checking them out since game 5 of alcs. They’ll look at the tape from tonight’s game and figure Lee out. We’ll see if they take the same approach next time around. ONce agan, bench freaking swish.
by spiritcrusher on Oct 29, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't rip CC.
He gave up two solo homers to a guy who clearly was locked-in. Other than that, nothing. Given any normal game I’ll take two runs from CC. If we were winning when CC left, Mo could have come into the game and finished. If our offense can’t get us at least 3 runs per game, we’re not gonna win many games in ANY postseason series.
by pinstriper on Oct 29, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still trying to figure out
why Girardi took CC out when he had the Phillies number (except the 2 solos to Utley). I mean, our bullpen threw this game away just like they did in game 4 in Anaheim.
Why did he not bring in Robertson instead of Hughes? Why was Robertson in for such a short time? Man, I’m at the point where I’m as worried about our bullpen (minus Mariano and maybe still Robertson) and I am excited about getting to face the Phillies bullpen when we get the chance.
For all those who said/say the Phillies are the underdogs just because the Yankees were picked by many in the media to win the WS: they are the defending champs and winners of the NL east and put a whupping on Colorado and LA. I would not say they are underdogs by a long shot because to do so underestimates their power and many dominant skills.
by phonty on Oct 29, 2009 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Know when to hold... and fold
I think Girardi was saving CC’s pitch count with an eye toward 2 more turns on 3 days rest. Good move. Pen’s job was to hold ’em close — but hunch was probly NO ONE was going to touch Lee 2nite.
Utley won it in the 3rd. That kind of night for Mr. Lee.
by rosebud on Oct 29, 2009 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure we use this as a catalyst tomorrow
they wont let it happen 2 in a row
AJ will get plenty of support, pedro will be knocked around…….get em tonight
by JDude on Oct 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Suck it up???
I’m a YANKEE fan first and foremost. To me either you are with the Yanks or against them. In the end, with sooo many Yankee haters outthere, it’s more like us (great yankee fans) against the world. And yes, it could possibly be a once in a lifetime performance. I’d like to see a second match up between CC and Lee and see who holds up. Bet you CC will come out with a chip in his shoulder next time up. The offense will figure this guy out, like they’ve done with every single pitcher they’ve faced in this postseason.
by spiritcrusher on Oct 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once in a lifetime?
Hmmm… Cy Young Award winner in 2008
Lee threw a complete game against the Rockies
Lee throws into the 8th inning in Coors Field in the clinching game
Lee threw 8 shutout innings against the Dodgers and would have thrown a complete game shutout except that Manuel wanted to give a reliever some work
Lee throws a complete game against the Yankees
Yup… it was a fluke
Once in lifetime
Heaven forbid anyone give a guy credit!
by SullyBaseball on Oct 29, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time Pedro faced the yanks he gave up 6 runs in 5 innings
lets repeat that tomorrow and add a little more runs in
by lololol on Oct 29, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
40th most likely score hits
Game #2 Simulation will be posted tomorrow AM. Unlike Game #1, the simulator and Vegas are in pretty good agreement for Game #2.
Vegas: 64.03%
Simulator: 62.28%
AccuScore: ???
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 29, 2009 1:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this serves as a wakeup call to the players and staff
This is not their World Series to have, they have to fight and earn it. The Yankees will not win if they keep relying on 2-3 hitters and great starting and closing pitching. It was fine against the Angels and Twins, but it won’t work against the Phillies
by Monotonousblob on Oct 29, 2009 1:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This was as bad as a 15 -0 blowout.
And it should be treated as such. Those losses are always much easier to “get over” than a gut wrenching extra inning affair. We didn’t throw the game away, Cliff whooped us good, you just tip your cap and prepare for the next game.
Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.
by CasanovaWong on Oct 29, 2009 1:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
as
as my mom would say, the final score was “a lot to not enough”
by SullyBaseball on Oct 29, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not worried....
Ive sat and sweated thru all the Yankees playoff and world series games since 95. Ive adjusted to the downs and waited for the ups. Last night was a down. Was it a shock. Not really. Afterall its Phillie. The defending National League and World Series Champs. Its Cliff Lee, former Cy Young Award winner who has a rep for being lights out, thats why Philly got him. What I was shocked at was the fact that NOBODY but DJ seemed to get Lee’s rythm. I mean he’s good, but he’s not GOD. I believe the Yanks were more tight than Philly. After all whats harder, defending a championship or trying to win your 27th after not winning since 2000. I think last night was a pressure game and the yanks had to see what they were up against. I still feel we have the superior team, we just need to relax and enjoy the game. Then we will see the bats start to loosen up. So tonight we get our buddy Pedro on the mound. Dont be fooled, his last game was a ND but he went like 7 and gave up no ER. But here is the bright side. We’ve already faced the best they got. Dont get me wrong Hamels is good but Lee is better. Pedro is old and is really going off excitement. Now if AJ and Joe can stay away from giving away game two, we’ll walk out with a split. Against the defending champs I say thats not a bad thing.
by Poppi on Oct 29, 2009 6:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we've already faced the best you've got...
twice in the last two years in the playoffs and he is 0-2. Watch AJ meltdown under pressure tonight. He usually does. Hopefully Posada starts, AJ’s era is more than a run higher for the season when pitching to Posada.
by packimop on Oct 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and there is more pressure on the yankees tonight than last night, going down 0-2 to the Phils is basically a death sentence. The Phillies haven’t lost more than one game in each of the last 5 post season series. 18-5
by packimop on Oct 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you talk a lot of crap
for someone who’s Game 2 pitcher’s season started in August.
DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by FreeBradshaw on Oct 29, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
YANKS
WE WERE DOWN 1 GAME BEFORE WERE WE NOT SWISH SHOULD BE REPLACED BY BRETT G. IT IS TIME.
BIG YANKEE FAN,FROM MASS. HAVE TO PUT UP WIYH ALL THESE HOLE SOX FANS
by JEETS on Oct 29, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny how the media
suddenly pegs the Yanks as in crisis mode. “Oh no! This changes everything!” they cry. Well, it does change one thing:
We’re 0-1 in the World Series.
We still need to win 4 games before the Phillies do.
If we win 4 games, we’re World Series Champions.
We’ll probably have to beat Cliff Lee on the way to a possible championship. Consider this: if CC gave up ONE homer to Utley and had the other fall for a double, plus our relievers actually HOLD THE SCORE where it was for a couple innings, Jeter scores in the 9th inning to TIE THE GAME. That would have us going into extra innings with a crack at the Phillies bullpen, and with Mo giving us potentially two innings on our side of things. That would put us in a great position to win the game.
As dominant as Lee was last night, it’s not hard to see how we could have won that game. It can be done. If we want to be WS Champs, we must do it. If we can’t or won’t, we will not deserve to win this World Series. It’s pretty simple.
by pinstriper on Oct 29, 2009 11:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES, and IF there isn’t an error in the 9th, the Yankees don’t score at all!
by packimop on Oct 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I just say..
..how much better I feel after reading these comments? I really expected Yankee Universe to go into alarm mode as a knee jerk reaction, but it was the best feeling ever (after a loss anyway) to see that the consensus is that indeed we’re the f’n Yankees and one loss means NOTHING.
:)
by CrazyYankeeChick on Oct 29, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's why I came here :)
Glad to see the mood here. CYC, any chance you watch our innings from outside the bar? Or are you going to the game?
by pkyankeefan on Oct 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
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