Instant Replay and the JumboTron

by jscape2000 on Oct 22, 2009 8:09 AM EDT in Analysis Comment 55 comments

Why do we call umps "Blue" when they're clearly in black?

UPDATE (2:28 by jscape): I just received this email from a reader:

I'm a lifelong Yankee fan who moved to Southern California from NJ about 20 years ago to go to UCLA. My wife and I usually make the 75-mile trip from Thousand Oaks to Anaheim for every game the Yanks play in Anaheim. It's a lot of fun because she grew up in Orange County and is an Angel fan. (Not everyone is perfect.)

Originally, I was only planning on going to Game 5, but when the Yankees were leading Game 3 2-0, I decided to go to Game 4 hoping for a sweep.

I found a single ticket on ticketmaster.com for Section 132 on Tuesday night and went without my wife.

In all the years we've been going to Yankees-Angels games in Anaheim, the Angels have NEVER showed a close (much less a controversial) call on the stadium jumbotron, much to the chagrin of a lot of fans. As far as I know, I believe that MLB has a rule that prohibits teams from doing so. The Angels did not show ANY replays AT ALL on the jumbotron on Tuesday night.

I can understand why, however, it might have seemed that way to the viewer at home.

When I buy my tickets for Angel Stadium, like any fan, I try to get the best possible seats. Usually, this means sitting in Section 132, 133 or 134 as they are the only available field level sections on the first base side (visitor's dugout in Anaheim). However, last month, for the game on Tuesday, September 22nd, I found myself sitting in Section 229, which has the Club Level overhead.

What I discovered sitting there is that there are TV monitors placed on the underside of that overhang. Those monitors have the broadcast TV feed shown on them, just like the monitors that one would find at the concession stands.

That was the ONLY way anyone in the ballpark got to see replays of any plays on Tuesday night. In my seat, about 15 rows off the foul pole, I did not get to see a replay because it was not shown on the stadium jumbotron.

Now, what MLB really needs to do, aside from something about instant replay is ban those stupid "thunder sticks". I can't believe that they still let the Angels pass them out. Without them, I guarantee you would have been able to hear on TV all the Yankee fans that were there (and there were a lot of them) cheering for the team. Really, how sad is it that a team has to give their fans noisemakers to artificially create a home field advantage?

I'll be heading back down to Anaheim this afternoon to sit in Section 134 and I'm hoping for even more Yankee fans tonight. Go Yanks!

Tim McClelland to the Des Moine Register:

"It’s very humbling, to be honest with you," he said in an interview with the Des Moines Register. "You don’t want to make mistakes. And you certainly don’t want to see your mistakes on JumboTron and TV over and over again."

I asked the question during one of the 5 game threads on Tuesday night, why the heck are the California Angels showing replays of close plays on the JumboTron? In all the years I've gone to Yankee Stadium I've never seen a questionable call replayed, even when it involved a great play.

It's been the same when I've gone to Camden Yards and SkyDome and RFK (yeah, I know, I need to get to a few more stadiums). They'll replay diving catchings and jump throws and big strikeout pitches, but not the maybes.

Is it something different about this postseason? Is it a West Coast- East Coast thing I never noticed before? Were the Angels just trying to get their fans riled up (seems in bad taste to me)?

Anybody who has seen this before, please tell me I'm wrong.

PS. Take the two umps off the line, so we're back to a 4 man crew, and put them up in a broadcast booth in front of tvs with the 4 or 5 broadcast feeds and allow each manager 2 appeals per game on balls in play (not balls and strikes, not HBP). If the manager is correct he retains the right to appeal again, if not, he's charged with a visit to the mound.

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Great suggestion

I like the ump in the booth reviewing questionable plays, and I love the idea of charging a visit to the mound. As a fan I would love to see all the close plays on the Big Screen. Why not? They let the tv audience see it but not the paying fans? It would get the crowd more involved and would help “us” fans to determine if the play we just saw was the right call. Who cares about the umps feelings? If they get it right then they did their job, and if they don’t, well, they get what they get. We scrutinize the players, coaches, front office, owner, announcers, etc., what makes them so different? That is one main reason why people choose 50" flat screens over the real thing, just on the fact of seeing the instant replay.

by McDaniel on Oct 22, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Imagine if --

Imagine if they showed a questionable call that happened to go in favor of the home team on the jumbo-tron. Wouldn’t that produce an interesting crowd reaction?

All in all, however, I agree with jscape in that putting that image on the big screen is in bad taste, however way you slice it. I know the ticket prices don’t necessarily agree with this comment — if we’re paying so much for seats, why not be able to see the replay on the big screen? — but I think you have to assume, as a fan, that the umpires are trying to do the best they can.

Which is why the plan put forth by jscape is A-ok with me. Keep the replay away from the crowd and to the officials.

By the way, did Angel Stadium put up a replay of the Swisher-tagging-up screw up? Or did they just stick to the Swisher-pick-off screw up? You know what I’m implying with this question.

by Solomon96 on Oct 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AMEN BROTHER.

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Oct 22, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The worst case of this offense:

Remember the LeGarrette Blount knock out punch after that Oregon vs. Boise State game?

They showed the Punch on the Big Screen at Boise State!! That’s what caused Blount to go ballistic on the field and need to be restrained.

Was that big screen guy trying to start a Riot??

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't see what's wrong with it

When a player makes a bad play he has to see it replayed on the jumbo-tron. I don’t see why it should be any different when an ump makes a bad call.

by Let's Talk About Tex Baby on Oct 22, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A crowd

can become an angry mob very quickly. If you have even 1000 people within throwing distance of an umpire, it only takes 1% of them (10 crazy people) to cause big trouble. Throwing beer, batteries, whatever else people throw at baseball games. Umpire safety is a huge reason not to show replays.

by Jaybat on Oct 22, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought it was bullcrap too when the Angels

showed the replay’s on their big screen. The Yanks most definitely don’t do that. I’m sure the did it to get the fans all riled up.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 22, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

+1

I have NEVER been to a baseball game anywhere they have done that.

by NumberSeven on Oct 22, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Decent idea ...

So long as we’re not reviewing everything it’s probably a great idea.

Frankly, I think airing the blown calls on the jumbo tron were deserved. What folks aren’t really talking about is Swisher getting picked off at second. Another blown call. I think his being called out at third moments later was a direct result of the jumbo-tron airing. It was a payback call.

As for Cano and Posada being tagged out, why couldn’t the homeplate ump overrule the call—especially when it was so obviously wrong?

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Oct 22, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i thought that too...

..there are FIVE other umpires on the field, how did no one see Cano get tagged off the base??

by NumberSeven on Oct 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everything but balls and strikes should be open for review. Everyone talks about delaying the game, but the manager always comes out to argue after a bad call, and by the time he’s done, TV is already showing the replay.

There’s just absolutely no excuse for not using it.

by 3460kuri on Oct 22, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Balls and strike

calls should be automated just as is done on gameday, ESPN or questech. That is the first thing that should be done. That is easy, but it will never happen.

by Buzzy on Oct 22, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough.

But what would really improve playoff officiating would be for MLB to assign umpires the way the NFL assigns refs.

by django48 on Oct 22, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

something like that...

Is in affect i believe. Sports center ticker was saying how the future of this crew working post season may be in question…

by SoCal Yankee on Oct 22, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Replay has to happen

I thought it is an MLB rule that replays not be shown on umpire calls, and have never seen it at any stadium I’ve been to. But…I haven’t seen anything from MLB or the media or the umpires union calling the Angels out on this. As an aside…do umpires need a union? Really.

I don’t see any reason for baseball to continue to deny video replay – and as for the umpires…sorry guys…you’ve brought it on yourselves. If we did not have obviously incorrect calls, we are not having this conversation.

I am still unsure how MLB should trigger the booth – jscape’s suggestion is good in that it is limited and there is a penalty for losing an appeal to the booth. I think it should be further limited to no more than two appeals per game.

We did better 'cause we got better...Yogi

by mickey07 on Oct 22, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's funny

I was thinking the same thing when I heard the crowd boo with Swisher’s safe call on the pickoff attempt at 2nd. The Yankees never replay controversial calls on the jumbotron. Never show up the umps.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 22, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Precisely. I guess when you’re hatred for a team outgrows your capacity to think rationally, you’ll do just about anything to make them look bad — including, sadly, showing up a 26-year veteran known during that time for his GOOD calls in front of a packed stadium.

Nice job, Anaheim GAY-ngels.

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Oct 22, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice job, Anaheim GAY-ngels.

Indeed. Keep showing us your TRUE colors, ~~red and white~~ shit brown.

by Solomon96 on Oct 22, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Replay

If you went with a replay system as mentioned above, would each team be allowed to have a coach upstairs in the booth looking at replays to see if there was a call that should be questioned? Seems like a slippery slope there to me. MLB would have to control all the TV feeds. What would keep the home teams local broadcast station from only showing replays of plays that would help their home team. This is all doable, but it’s not as simple as people make it out to be.
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 22, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sure

Guys watch replays in the clubhouse. Remember earlier in the season when Arod got tossed for barking about a called third strike when he went back to the clubhouse and watched, then said something at the next inning change?

The ump (and team employees) won’t be limited to the local broadcast. He’ll have the original feed- be able to see all the cameras and choose which one he wants to see replayed, just like a production truck.

I don’t know, but I imagine that’s the way it’s handled in the NFL. You never hear any nonsense about home teams only showing a certain angle.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Oct 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, talk about reactionary...

I’m a season ticket holder and was in fact AT that game (along with Monday’s game, and Tonight’s game). I will say this very clearly so all of you can hear it:

NONE of the controversial calls were played on the Jumbo Screen. NONE OF THEM. They NEVER show the close calls on our video screen.

But hey, way to go with all the “GAY-ngels” calls. Your transformation is almost complete…

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Transformation?

Yeah, I’m a reactionary, it’s how I roll. I hate mistakes.
The Fox broadcast team said they showed the Swisher tag at second on the big screen and it set off all the booing (which was clearly audible).

You’re sure they didn’t show that one? (I’m more likely to believe you than Fox, but I have to ask).

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Oct 22, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

P.S. the "reactionary" comment wasn't directed to you. I have too much respect for your work for that...

If they did play the replay, I didn’t see it. I was in my seat for that play, I would have been VERY shocked to see a replay of what would have shown up the umps. I think the reaction was more to Swisher being safe on a call that we even up in the top deck viewed as a bad one in an important game.

What probably happened is that the group of fans in the luxury boxes and in the concourses and anywhere where TV’s exist in the stadium showed the replay from the Fox feed and THAT’S what initiated the boos. People often hear loudest the calls from a group of fans close to the broadcast booth. Perhaps the strength of the boos from those fans near TV’s and in luxury boxes (Plus under the overhangs where some tv’s are) was clear enough, and obviously reaction to a bad call, that the fans all booed.

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I assume

McClelland was referring to something (I am not being a jerk-that link somehow crashes my browser)? Thus they must have shown it on the jumbotron, right? They do this a lot in football games, but I have never seen that at a baseball game.

by Buzzy on Oct 22, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

football

they have the luxury of showing the replays knowing the call could be changed if challenged.

by NumberSeven on Oct 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alot of the times they show controversial calls in football games

so the home coach can get a better took to challenge or not.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 22, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Reactionary, Schmeactionary --

Are you telling me that 45,000 people simultaneously booing their asses off about two minutes after the call was made is NOT a good reason to infer that the play was put on the jumbo-tron?

Listen, man. We do a lot of name-calling on these blogs. That’s fine. We’re small potatoes.

But when your organization thinks it’s a good idea to run that up there for the raging masses to see and thus humiliate a 26-year veteran from that point on, I’ve gotta question the thought process.

by Solomon96 on Oct 22, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Were you there? You see, cause I was

I DIDN’T SEE THEM PLAY THE VIDEO ON THE BIG SCREEN..

They NEVER PLAY CLOSE CALLS ON THE BIG SCREEN.
I’ve been going there my whole life. I’ve been to over 60 games this season….. NEVER

The Organization doesn’t think it’s a good idea and that’s why they don’t do it…

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol, hey man

I like Arty a lot, first off.

But we have one of two things going on here:

Either everyone — somehow — saw that replay somewhere at the same time, or the vast majority of fans blindly started booing just for the heck of it.

by Solomon96 on Oct 22, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I will RE-POST what I already said

“What probably happened is that the group of fans in the luxury boxes and in the concourses and anywhere where TV’s exist in the stadium showed the replay from the Fox feed and THAT’S what initiated the boos. People often hear loudest the calls from a group of fans close to the broadcast booth. Perhaps the strength of the boos from those fans near TV’s and in luxury boxes (Plus under the overhangs where some tv’s are) was clear enough, and obviously reaction to a bad call, that the fans all booed.”

I have seen that happen before many times.

You see, when fans see a call that’s that “close” we react. Let’s assume that there were 10 people in each luxury box. There are roughly 64 Luxury boxes. plus anyone in the concourse, and all the tv’s under the overhanging sections… That’s a LOT of people… They all saw the TV replay, and reacted. The rest of the fans, already incensed by their on impression of the bad call, quickly reacted to the loud boos.. I

You see, it’s not the first time that’s happened. Have you never heard of that or experienced it yourself?

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That sounds plausible.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Oct 22, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes it does. But the thundersticks have to flat-out go.

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Oct 22, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You could hear the crowd all at once

go nuts and boo when swish was called safe. It corresponded with when they were showing the reply on TV. It’s a bit of a coincidence that the crowd gave a second wave of raucous boo’s for no reason.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 22, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excuse me, when he was called safe they boo'd.

Then there was a distinct second wave that corresponded with when Fox showed the replay on TV. That doesn’t tell you if they showed it in the stadium but it would be quite the coincidence.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 22, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I got what you were saying, the inhouse broadcast feed is a little faster than the national one..

Like I said, I was there and would be surprised if I missed them showing that, but I have been there when the clear reaction of fans watching the TV feed caused the reaction in the rest of the stadium.

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I get what you're saying

and I thought the same thing while watching the game that it was strange how loud the boos were. But I went back and watched the archived game on MLB.tv and McCarver said something about the TVs, not the scoreboard.

I posted a fanpost asking those at the game if they showed the play on the JumboTron, and the answer was “no”, just the TVs in the suites and in the concourses.

I agree, showing the vid on the JumboTron would not be classy, but they didn’t show it.

by WiHaloFan on Oct 22, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe you.

Hadn’t considered the fact that there are LOTS of TVs all over the stadium. That makes some sense.

BTW, nice to have what seems like a very rational baseball fan give us a visit! There’s a lot of crazy running around HH these days. (sigh.)

by pinstriper on Oct 22, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Angel Fans and Their Stadium

OK, replay is debatable, and yes we have had a fair share of calls go our way (ground rule double called foul in the ALDS). But the replays on the jumbo-tron make the game miserable. The fans in angel stadium are some of the rudest people i have ever met. I was at Game 3 and i swear more people wanted to fight than i have ever seen. Every time we bombed the stadium goes quiet and people grumble or shout how Jeter, A-rod, Posada, and Damon suck. Im sure after the performance by CC in game four he is the biggest loser of all professional pitchers right? The fans have no class, and it starts with the ownership on down. stop replaying the maybes and get back to the game already.

Oh yeah, get rid of the stupid monkey too its a throw back to the lame duck days of Disney and it makes your team an even bigger joke.

by SoCal Yankee on Oct 22, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bwaaaaahhhhhhhh, the fans weren't nice to me at a playoff game...

Dude, are you serious?? What did you expect? Welcome smiles and open arms??

Home runs tend to quiet EVERY croud. A-Rod is easily hate-able. Even several Yankee fans hate A-Rod. I hate nothing more than the “Player/Team” Sucks chants, and do everything to quiet those cheers…

“The fans have no class, and it starts with the ownership on down”…
ummmm WHAT?? What about Arte Moreno is class-less?

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

RE: What about Arte Moreno is class-less?

His ability to read a map? Honestly I had a soft spot for the Angels until they decided to pretend they play in a city they do not play in. I think it’s very insulting to LA, but a hundred times more insulting to Anaheim. I’m frankly surprised that anyone from there can still root for the team after the owner basically spit in their face. (although the Giants and Jets fans may have some splainin’ to do, but that is still not on the same level as what Artie did).

by LeonS on Oct 22, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yawn... How is it that the only people that don't care about this anymore are the fan's it's supposed to betray???

that same owner has produced/maintained the most successful era in franchise history…

Look, the name change was financial, better TV deal, better ad revenue. More money to spend on the team, keep ticket prices reasonable, lower beer prices and make terrible free agent signings (See: Matthews Jr., Gary).

Do we like it? At this point few people really care anymore. When it first happened, I remarked: “As long as the $$ gained brings us that bat we’ve always wanted”. There were several people who were upset, and t-shirts made declaring “We’re NOT L.A.” Without LA in our name, could we have even made an offer to Teix or CC?? Who knows.

All I know is that ESPN the magazine named LA Angels of A the #1 Best Fan experience/value in all of professional sports, and I think that the vast majority of the credit belongs to him.

Besides, all Orange County really is, or at least the bulk of it, is a LA suburb that grew up, cast off any semblance of culture, and turned itself into a giant strip mall. But it’s home. And we love it! Just like we love our team, whatever they’re called. California, Anaheim, LA of A.

It’s important to remember mediocrity and worse, failure, is always just an Owner away.

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 22, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough, you and the local fans, are entitled to your opinions

…but pointing out that the move made financial sense doesn’t exactly refute the claim that the move was classless. Even though I root for the Yankees, I get a little ill every time I drive by a red billboard implying that Los Angeles is the “City of Angels”, but that’s just me.

But hey why stop at LA then? If we are going to use pretend maps, I hear Beijing is a huge, untapped market. The Beijing Angels of Anaheim…. nice ring to it, no?

As for Anaheim just being a big suburb of LA… I guess I lost my rights to start a flame war over that when I moved to Ventura…

by LeonS on Oct 22, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about when they were the "California Angels"?

I’ve been a fan since 1971, and I don’t remember anyone complaining that they didn’t represent all of Ca. Although I’ve moved away from SoCal, it bothered me when the name was changed to LA of A, but I’ve noticed 90% of the time they are referred to as just “The Angels”.

I’m not trying to argue any points, the name is the least of my worries. I’m more concerned about how they are going to win three straight against your Yankees.

by WiHaloFan on Oct 22, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Love Ventura... especilly on a strong south Swell!!

Anyway, you make a solid point:

pointing out that the move made financial sense doesn’t exactly refute the claim that the move was classless

In all reality, I guess the move did lack class. It’s certainly a slap in the face of any Identity Anaheim, or Orange County for that matter may have. Further more, the move to change the name (most annoyingly) turned the name of the team into a joke all over the league. That was annoying for sure.
Well done Leon, you forced me to re-evaluate my original impression of the name change.

Either way, one thing I do take issue with, is how much of a big deal people outside of our little microcosm make of the name change.

by MidwayCityLivestock on Oct 23, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

SoCal it's playoff baseball man.

Doesn’t give people the right to act like assholes but it happens, don’t expect the red carpet treatment. There’s a guy on Halos Heaven who went to either game 1 or 2 who was getting shit from Yankee fans bc he has a prosthetic leg.

Strikeouts are boring- Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.

by CasanovaWong on Oct 22, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Simple rule of thumb

When going to an opposing team’s yard, especially in an important game DO NOT GO TO THE CHEAP SEAT SECTION. You will get shit.

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 22, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's all the stupid props that piss you off --

Thundersticks. Rally monkey. Towels. Lots of sparkly glitter. Soccer moms. The Disney vibe. Watching a game at that stadium feels eerily similar to watching an episode of Full House. I think that’s why we can’t stand it. It’s pretty much the opposite of cold, humbug, prop-less Yankee Stadium.

by Solomon96 on Oct 22, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They are the Hanna Montana of baseball

by HappyLuckyGoldenDragonNumber1! on Oct 22, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ouch!

That one hurt.

by WiHaloFan on Oct 22, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm a Yankee fan...

but you’re an idiot. I’ve been to the stadium enough times to know that it all depends on the type of fan you are. When you go to a game & look for trouble, chances are you’ll find it. I don’t care about guys in Red Sox jerseys if they watch the game & clap when their team does well. The douches are the ones that yell at other fans. You can grumble about other players as you suggest & that’s fine, just don’t start sh!t w/me. There’s always at least one fan of the opposite team getting ridiculed, that’s how it is at Yankee Stadium anyways.
If you were at the game, did they show the replays on the jumbo screen? All I’ve heard is that they didn’t do it. Here you claim they did do it…so which one is it?

by BriGuy27 on Oct 22, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry Bri

But I don’t see how your comments relate to the creepiness of all the fruity pep at that Angel ballpark. It’s downright Disney-channel-annoying.

"It's only fun if you win, Skip." -- Me.

by Paul O'Neill on Oct 22, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only problem with replays

is if they’re in the middle of a play. For example, what happens if there’s a fly ball & it’s a shoe-string or diving catch? Would you stop all the runners at their current spot, review if the ball was caught or not & then continue the play after the review? There’s gotta be a few guidelines to say the least. Making the game longer is whatever in my opinion. These types of plays, however, cannot be reviewed since they’re directly in the middle of a play.
Also the appeal stuff is stupid. If you’ve got 2 umps in the booth already, they should just signal the umps on the field that an error has occurred.

by BriGuy27 on Oct 22, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

posting replays

If you are going to allow replays of close plays to be shown, the home team has to show the play regardless of whether the home team may have gotten a break or may have been damaged unfairly. Anyone can make an ump look like a chump by showing all of the goofs, just as one could make a great player look awful by showing only the failures. It’s unfair to expose the umps to having their bad calls shown without also having the possibility of the call being confirmed to the crowd.

by logiet on Oct 22, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs