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Now That I Can Think Rationally

I try hard to be logical, rational, and judicious.  Really, I do.  But when I googled it, 2 of the top 3 results for Fire Joe Girardi are posts I've written here on Pinstripe Alley.

So it took some real effort on my part to get past the red haze of my fury.  And now that I can look at it calmly, I can see that my first reaction was the right one.

It's the unnecessary moves that have me angry.  Not just the quick hook on the relievers, but the bad choices for the lineup that have me upset.  I could be wrong.  Or the Yankees can win the next two games to clinch the pennant, and then my righteous indignation will be meaningless.

Brett Gardner is too talented to be limited to pinch running duties, especially with Freddie Guzman on the team to pinch run.  I'd argue that Melky (5/20, 2BB) or Swisher (3/18, 1BB) would be a good candidate to sit for half a game and pinch hit.

I'm not upset that we lost; it's how we lost.  I know how hard it is to win on the road in extras.

Since the inception of the Wild Card in 1995, there have been 52 postseason games (including two "163rd" games to decide a playoff spot) that have gone to extra innings.... The home team has triumphed in 35 of these contests, for a 67% winning percentage.

But to lift a guy who has just thrown only 11 pitches, who has recorded 2 outs while allowing no baserunners, and who has shown a bulldog's tenacity...  To put in your second to last pitcher in a tied game in the 11th inning after only 2 batters....

It's a fireable offense.  Not if they win, obviously.  Not if CC makes this a slight hiccup in an otherwise brilliant postseason.  It's the first time the Yankees have been to the ALCS since 2004, so there are plenty of ways for Joe G. to earn himself a contract extention.  But Grady Little was fired for a smaller mistake.  Billy Martin got fired (the first time) for suspending Reggie Jackson when the slugger bunted- a smaller mistake.

There's still plenty of season left to make us all forget Game 2.  A strong start from CC would be a big step in the right direction.

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It's fun to manage?!

My girlfriend made a rather shrewd observation last night after the Yanks loss. She remembered that during the press conference after the marathon game in New York on Saturday that Girardi said he “had fun managing a game like that.”

Based on last night, Girardi is having too much fun then, no?

by Ooofa on Oct 20, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes he's having fun

the guy just wants kids to start smoking cigarettes.

Facial LaFleur, total facial.

by Lord Duggan on Oct 20, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Panic

It’s only one game, while it would be nice to sweep the playoffs, the odds of that happening are extremely unlikely. Hopefully Girardi and the rest of the Yankees learned from the past few games what they need to know.

Benching Melky or Swish might do some good, as it will let Gardner roam the field, as well as leave power and speed on the bench.

Tex won’t slump forever, and hopefully Girardi finally learned his lessons on over-managing.

by Monotonousblob on Oct 20, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

The way I look at it

If the Yankees win 1 of the next 2 games in Anaheim, I’ll be happy. Hopefully they can do better in the RISP department these next couple of games.

by ACPhoenix on Oct 20, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Fire Joe!

No, but I certainly feel JScapes pain—especially when Joe was the reason why we lost that game. Taking out Pettitte? I can tell you there was a collective sigh of relief when Joe yanked Andy after 6.1. Why? His pitch count was manageable. He was effective. I’ve seen enough of Andy’s game to know when it’s time to get him out, and it wasn’t that time.

Pulling Hughes after what? 16 pitches.
Pulling Robertson and putting in Aceves (who I like, but not in that situation) because you “liked the match-up”? What? Robertson was doing what Robertson usually does, he mows down opposing hitters with a deceptive delivery and a good fastball.

Taking out Damon? What?

I really believe Joe has ADHD, and is in need of medication prior to the game.
He can’t play Captain Hook—yanking all of his pitchers EVERY game and expect good results. That game was hard to watch—because of Joe.

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Oct 20, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I Have To Disagree With Just About Everything You Have Written

It was time for Andy to come out, he wasn’t as sharp as he was against the Twins. The Angels were getting on base every inning and he was starting to tire.
Hughes was decent but with the game on the line, which pitcher do you want out there? Any manager makes that change if they have Mo
The Damon move was curious but it wasnt terrible, that Mo was even able to get out of that nightmare is amazing.
The main mistake Girardi made was taking out Robertson. And running out to the mound and breaking Pettitte’s concentration. His next pitch was the real one that cost us the game.

by YankeesJets on Oct 20, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

just curious

How often does the home team lose in extra-innings during the regular season? It seems like the home team wins more often during the post-season, but I’d be interested to know what the winning percentage is during the season.

by long time listener on Oct 20, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

While I do agree that Joe G has a tendency to yank his pitchrers out way to early….let’s think about this….Harrold Reynolds from the MLB network made a valid point. After abreus single in the 6th Joba started warming up. Tori hunter then proceeded to pop up on the 1st pitch…thus screwing any possibility of bringing in joba to face vlad….honestly. Chamberlain looked downright human yesterday…I would also like for Girardi to stay in the Dugout….stop coming out in the middle of an at-bat to make sure your veteran pitcher is ok. Pettite has been doing this for years, he looked pretty annoyed when girardi walked away….w.e CC today…..let’s hope he gives a strong outing and let’s score some runs boys!!! LET’S GO YANKEES

by Br0nxb0mber914 on Oct 20, 2009 11:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I know he's the manager and all...

…but shouldn’t Joe be conferring with somebody when making these moves?? Last night he’s at the dugout’s edge, runs to his notebook, then scampers out of the dugout to yank Robertson- all without seemingly saying a word to anyone else. Just a thought… perhaps it’s time to bring in a pitching coach that has Joe’s ear? Somebody who feels comfortable throwing his ideas out there, so it’s not a crazy dictatorship? Throwing that out there.

As I eluded to in previous thread this a.m. - in the light of day: I’m not gonna torch Joe outright for a questionable move. I still don’t agree with it but whatever. Aceves is a ML pitcher who should be able to get one friggin’ out. Bottom line.

by NumberSeven on Oct 20, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Wins have covered JoeG's flaws...

The usual well worn rap is that this is a team built for the marathon schedule, but will fail in a short series when the teams flaws are exposed. Start with the manager. Aceves has been good…maybe great in middle relief when our hitters had time to stage one of the many comebacks…hence Aceves’ gaudy and misleading record. In that situation yesterday, Robertson was the right person to overpower one more hitter. I would even have preferred Bruney over Aceves. Power pitchers in the playoffs – right?

So now we go with the horse on short rest. In my mind we have to win this game. And if not, can you afford to sit Jorge’s 2 HRs in 3 gameswith AJ pitching a game 5? Lets worry about that tomorrow!

We did better 'cause we got better...Yogi

by mickey07 on Oct 20, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

To be fair

Grady Little got fired for a whole season’s worth of transgressions that cuminated in his managerial botching of game 7 in the ALCS in 2003. Girardi is a better manager than Grady (by a fair bit) and probably better than Torre was too. Rewatching game 5 of the 2004 ALCS reminded me of just how bad Torre was. He probably cost the Yankees the 2004 AL pennant via his overuse of Gordon, his use of Quantrill and Gordon in an 18-9 blowout, not going to Rivera early enough in game 5, never running on Wakefield (with Varitek passing balls left and right) or a gimpy Schilling in game 6, and not pitching out on Roberts when everyone and his grandmother knew he was running. I fully agree that he is way way overmanaging the pen in the playoffs, and he may have blown last night’s game. Otherwise, he has not done the weird things Joe did (batting ARod 8th in 2006) and he did not blow out his pen in the regular season the way Joe did. He likley knows at this point not to stick his head in that dumb binder and simply go by who is throwing well and leave it at that from now on.

by Buzzy on Oct 20, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Girardi blew Andy's game by going out to the mound before Vlad.

OK, his moves are driving me crazy also. Do guys have confidence that they’ll get more than two batters other than Mo? And remember, he ran out to talk to Andy Pettitte while he was pitching to Vlad. I think Andy knows how to pitch by now after 15 post season wins and after Girardi leaves the mound, BOOM HR. He messed up his concentration.
Andy was in a groove and he took him out of it…What could he possible tell Andy that he didn’t already know? Did his book have super secret intel?
He used two lefties on two hitters..Marte and Coke…That didn’t make sense either.
The series is about players.

I love the MLB network, but Harold was wrong. Andy should have kept pitching the full 7…if he took him out in the bottom of the 6th, Gaudin would have been the last pitcher standing in the 9th inning.

by John Amato on Oct 20, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Pettite has been a professional pitcher long enough NOT to lose his concentration after a poorly timed visit from his manager. Pettite seemed to throw the pitch he wanted to throw, but a .321/.386/.568 career hitter got a hold of it. Tip your cap to Guerrero.

The Angels won 97 games this year and just swept the RedSox. Anyone who thought they Yankees were going to win EVERY game is out of their mind.

by murp0837 on Oct 20, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think what Girardi told Andy was

“throw him a fastball right down the middle, he’ll never expect it.”
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by Brian5517209 on Oct 20, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If You Rewatch The Game

You can make out Girardi mouthing the words “Andy I got money on them, throw it down the middle”.

by YankeesJets on Oct 20, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree 100% about Brett Gardner

At worst, Melky vs. Gardner is a push. Melky has more power, but Gardner has the edge in OBP. Melky has a stronger throwing arm in CF, but Gardner has the speed to get to more balls. Even at a push, I would opt to play Gardner more often because he has the one thing the Yankees lack – game changing speed. This speed is useful in innings 1-7.

by 3460kuri on Oct 20, 2009 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

I think a change for at least one game is in order. Unfortunately, not tonight’s game. Lefty Scott Kazmir vs. Gardner? Pass.

Maybe in Game 5? Let Melky sit for a game and give a start to B.G.

Also, as much as I liked the Guzman addition, yesterday’s game made me wish we had a power lefty bat on the bench a.k.a. Eric Hinske on the team.

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by jeter2jeter on Oct 20, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen that

What the hell was he doing? I want to think that he was just grabbing him so that he could go around him and get up on the top step too – it looks like someone just hit a HR, so Jeter probably wouldn’t have heard if he just said “Excuse me! I’d like to applaud and congratulate Jorge/Damon!” But don’t grab people by the buttial area, A-Rod.

by long time listener on Oct 20, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

One Positive

I am not saying this was the strategy, but, the one positive we got from the sudden pitching changes yesterday was no one got over worked.

Yankee Relievers and their pitch count:
Joba 10,
Coke 3,
Hughes, 19,
Rivera 17,
Robertson 11, and
Aceves 7.
All of those guys can pitch today.

For the Angels:
Oliver, 28, and
Jepson 31.
If these guys are available, it wont be for more than an inning.

The other three relievers:
Fuentes 13,
Bulger 13,
Santana 9.
They probably are available.

My point is, if we get 5 innings out of CC, we still have a deep bullpen to use.

For the Angels, Kasimir better go a long way.

"Holy Cow, I think he's gonna make it!"

by wankerboy on Oct 20, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly, as opposed to killing his bullpen arms, Girardi is leveraging the work load across the entire bullpen. I actually think this was his strategy. If CC can’t go deep tonight, the Yankees are in a good position to pick up where he leaves.

by murp0837 on Oct 20, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wanker is right...

This has been Joe’s strategy, not to use guys too much when they have to play back to back.

His thinking was more based on winning the game, & then how many guys he’d have for today to back CC if they did win Game 3. All hands on deck today since tomorrow is an offday!

Melky’s lazy ass needs to sit, he could’ve prevented a couple of hits if he hustled or positioned himself properly. Gardner needs to start!

by JustinS1 on Oct 20, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Curious --

What did Joe have to say during yesterday’s post-game press conference? I missed it.

by Solomon96 on Oct 20, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

he didn't say anything

Any time a reporter tried to ask a question, Girardi called for a new reporter mid-question.

by long time listener on Oct 20, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Incredible

He said he made the move because he liked the matchup. When another reporter asked him why, he said because of the “stuff”. I guess he figured Robertson’s insanely unhittable pitches needed replacement for Aceves looping meatballs, speeding up the Angel bats.
The Wild Card in the postseason is that no matter how favorable the Yankees match up with other teams, and despite home field advantage, every team they face has a better manager.

by RRR2577 on Oct 20, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gardner should have started yesterday

Even Girardi has wanted more speed in the lineup to press Angel’s pitching. He can’t use him today.
Ha,
Flaherty brought up my Girardi coming out to the mound to talk with Andy point…Is John reading Pinstripe Alley? LOL…

by John Amato on Oct 20, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

From the other side of the stands...

It was painfully obvious to this Angels fan, and instantaneously. My gut reaction was almost as if I had just watched a Yankee player go down with an injury. I want to win straight up, or lose straight up. I do not want to win because your manager completely boneheads what should be a great, highly competitive, series.

(Although, it should be admitted that with the players performing so poorly to this point, why should we get so bent when the managers join the act?)

You too can be a baseball media analyst! Just don't allow your need to be wrong in public to get in the way of your ignorance.

by Stirrups on Oct 20, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree that Gardner should be starting, especially when Melky is swinging at balls in the dirt. Swisher has been too valuable to us to be benched at this point, and he’s shown that he can, at any time, hit one out.

My biggest issue yesterday was the Robertson substitution, just because he’s been throwing so well, but I can understand every other move. Pettite has a tendency to hit the wall, so that substitution makes sense to me. The Angels scored from 2nd on a base hit to shallow left field in game 2, so I know why Girardi took Damon out.

Let’s not forget the Aceves may be the MVP of our bullpen. The guy has pitched in every possible scenario and has pitched effectively. He gave up a couple of hits yesterday, but he’s proven that he can be trusted.

The moves didn’t work out yesterday, but they will. Girardi seems to like to play the percentages, which in my mind is better than “playing his gut”. The Yankees are going to score more than 4 runs a game; they got unlucky yesterday with the 4 solo HRs (particularly with the 4th coming immediately after the caught stealing by Gardner). I still like their chances to win the WS.

by murp0837 on Oct 20, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i think

we should have kept Vasquez instead of trading him for the Big Unit and used that money to sign Beltran, who is possibly a tad bit better than Melky or Gardner

by Brian5517209 on Oct 20, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to disagree

that Grady Little’s mistake was a smaller mistake than Girardi bringing in Alf last night. That said, it was a terrible decision. You take out a guy who is dialed in and up to game intensity to bring a cold pitcher to get the last out. When you have Tex and Arod due up in the 12th. I know I don’t have to convince any of you as you all agree that it was a blunder, but I think time will tell what kind and how big of a mistake this was. If we win tonight, it make it seem smaller. We lose, it’s big. Too early to tell.

by ScottBrosiusWSMVP on Oct 20, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing about Grady Little

Years ago McNamara was killed for taking his ace Clemens out of the game against the Mets. He claimed Clemens wanted out, Clemens has denied this. Could Grady have feared the same thing happening if he pulled the best pitcher in baseball and the Yankees come back against the pen? The funny thing is a couple of days ago the Phillies got second guessed for not leaving Pedro out there. Its amazing how this game works somehow.

by YankeesJets on Oct 20, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else watching Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS that’s currently airing on the MLB Network?

Thank God for making us Yankees.

by noonoo on Oct 20, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I was...

then they cut me off to talk to sciosia. At least they brought us back in time to see the Boone Shot!

by Jipeon on Oct 20, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

the yankees are up up 2-1 with 2 home games. its one game and yes a big mistake and he has had many other mistakes, but joe has made some good decisions too, putting hughes in the bullpen changed the season and is part of the the reason the yankees are in the playoffs.

"Yes we lost and yes we are upset. But like all Champs we will bounce back."
Osi umenyiora

by donnybaseball23 on Oct 20, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

For All The Gardner Lovers Out There

Melky is 8 for 20 against Kazmir with a .900 OPS, while Garder is 1 for 6 against Kaz. I think this a no brainer, Melky needs to stay in the lineup today. Swisher is 5 for 27 with a hr, so I think Brett will be riding the bench for the game.

by YankeesJets on Oct 20, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

bad

bad move oe that’s all folks

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by JEETS on Oct 20, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Just a thought,

The 2003 ALCS game 7 is on MLBN right now. Good luck anybody? Lets go CC

VA Yankee since 93'

by jramey on Oct 20, 2009 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do we always want to fire everyone?

Fire JoeG? I think we’re getting a little crazy with that sort of talk. It was one move (granted, it was a really stupid one), but you don’t fire a guy because of it. If we were told before the series the Yanks would be up 2-1 with CC going in game 4 we would have all taken it.

I think the big stat here is that the yankess are only 3-28 with runners in scoring position. AND THEY ARE STILL UP 2-1 in the series. Tex has got to start hitting, and Melky has to stop KILLING potentially big innings by doing his Vlad impression and swinging at anything and everything. I think if the bats can get on track, this one mistake by JoeG will be a blip on the radar screen. After all, none of us really expected the Yankees to sweep these guys, did we? Should have won game 3, but they didn’t. But you could argue it shouldn’t have even gotten to that point anyways… thanks Bobby Abreu!

by TheSaltineWarrior on Oct 20, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

FIRE GIRARDI!

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 20, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Girardi...once a player

always a player, unless you are paid to be a manager. Joe’s problem seems to be one of still thinking he has to be participating in the game. He had overmanaged this team a number of times, but the Yankees are so talented it hasn’t showed much until last night. Someone should get Girardi a valium prescription and make him take it. Ijust hope last night’s game hasn’t given the Angels new life. If they’d been down three games instead of two……..

by erie on Oct 20, 2009 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

lets move on please

i live in philly and am stuck listening to their retarded fans all day about how the phils are gonna just kill the yanks. so i come on here to be with like minded intelligent fans and to feel better about a tough loss. 2 and a half more hours to go up 3-1!!!! let go yankees! clap clap clap clap clap

by swanny4eva on Oct 20, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

word

I live in South Jersey among a ton of “bangwagon fans” and “fan girls” talking so much shit today, they are so damn annoying I het people who talk shit and know nothing about baseball or their supposed team. We will not lose the Phills if we make it to the series, this is our year. LETS GO YANKEES CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

by Danielle I on Oct 20, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

man i cant wait for this game.

now im cooled down my blame has mostly been on the offence yesterday. they need to stop screwing around and hit the damn ball. when runners are in scoring position with less than two outs AT LEAST score that run hell even better yet score the run WITH TWO OUTS. ok Go Yankees!!!! lets beat their ass!!!

"I'm not superstitious, just a little stitious"- Michael Scott

by GTWYankee on Oct 20, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Has anyone gone to "Halos Heaven"

and read about Mariano spitting a ball? they are calling him a cheater. Now they have to look for bogus explanation on way they couldn’t score one single run with a man on third with no outs…

I hate Red Sox fans only, but these guys are getting there real quick.

"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"

by PanamaSun on Oct 20, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Girardi made two big mistakes yesterday and a bigger one this post-season

1. Not subbing Gardner for Damon immediately. We still would have lost the DH, but we would have had a much better defensive outfield (it’s POSSIBLE that Melky or Gardner could have gotten Mathis’ double). Using Gardner as a PR only takes away his biggest contribution to the team.

2. Taking Robertson (a power reliever) out for Aceves (a long reliever who WILL give up runs) in a tie game when you’re the away team is just indefensible. I made this exact argument yesterday before the game with regard to Game 2. You can’t put long relievers into close games and not expect to give up runs.

Before the"2nd guess" accusations come on, if you read yesterday’s game comments, we ALL recognized that Joe taking out Robertson was a terrible idea at the time…that’s not second guessing, that’s FIRST guessing. I also think we’d all agree that Joe had done fine until then…Joba was clearly not getting it done, Andy had to work for his 6.1, Coke and Marte are only supposed to be in for one or two guys. But Joba, Hughes, Robertson, if they’re on, should never, ever go less than 3 outs.

3. We have no power off the bench, no Ruben Sierra-type, which left us with Cervelli. We have to either sit Swish for a PH moment or we should have picked up Hinske and not Guzman.

by PortlandYankee on Oct 20, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Gardner was out there for Mathis' double....

Robertson has given up plenty of runs. Given his HOUDINI acts he was due. Not saying I agree with taking him out, I would not have messed with him at all.

But Robertson was due for a falter, Aceves was due to come thru. Aceves is a long-reliever in role only, he’s one of the Yankees better relievers all year.

I agree on the no PH with power thing.

Another reason why this AJ needing Molina thing has sapped the Yanks bench. You need the extra catcher..cuz Molina’s done when AJ’s done.

I don’t know what the point is of Guzman tho. If we’re not starting Gardner, why do we need TWO fast PR on the bench?

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 20, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was Hariston in LF, not Gardner

Gardner was only in to PR, then he was lifted for Hariston as a PH, and Hariston was taken out as DH to be the new LF in the 10th.

PH Hariston for Gardner is a little like PH Cervelli for Molina…is he really gonna give you that much more? May as well let Gardner go up there and bunt (Game 2 notwithstanding).

by PortlandYankee on Oct 20, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taking Robertson out was stupid

Even if Aceves was due to pitch well. You cant keep emptying out the pen. I dont want the game in Gaudin’s hands god forbid an injury happens. Do you guys want a replay of Jeff Weaver vs the Marlins? Gaudin has been inactive too long and Girardi has made 14 pitching changes in the last 18 innings. I dont think there is that many pitching changes in an all star game.

by YankeesJets on Oct 20, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fire Girardi later, Sit Swisher Now

Anyone who has watched the Yankees all year long knows that they’ve won DESPITE Girardi,
He doesnt engage with the umps, even to back his players. Witness the ridiculous call against Swisher tonight. Not a peep.
His use of the bullpen is bizarre, and unexplainable in most cases, and he doesn’t seem to follow the flow of the game – he goes on stats only. Like a computer.
Worse than this, his love affair with Swisher and Molina is inexplicable. Swisher CANT HIT IN THE CLUTCH, cant field, cant run and cant throw. He draws walks and occasionally hits homers, mostly when it doesn’t count. Gardner offers speed, fielding, throwing and better contact. Is Girardi blind?

by RRR2577 on Oct 20, 2009 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Gardner belongs on the bench.

The bullpen, aside from game 3, has worked.

The ridiculous call on Swisher? There were 2 ridiculous calls on Swisher, one for the Yanks, the other against the Yanks. call it even.

Gardner vs. Melky was a legit argument. Garder vs. Swisher makes no sense. Swisher has been one of the most productive players on the team.

Gardner couldn’t but up Swishers numbers in Single A.

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

and the way were going...

Girardi’s gonna be around for a while.

..."I predict...the Giants are #1"...

...."That's not a prediction meatman, that's a FACT OF LIFE"!.

---Carl

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 21, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

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