Cashman back for three
Newsday is reporting that Brian Cashman, Yankees' GM since 1998, will sign a three year extension. He'll earn about $2 million a year.
Good move Hank (and Hal).
(h/t to BBTF)
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This was Hal who made the move
Hank is nothing more than the team mascot.
by anaconda on Sep 30, 2008 5:55 PM EDT 0 recs
Good move?
This team is in the worst position they’ve been in going into the off season than they’ve been in years and the GM in charge was who? This is an old team with most of the core offensive players past their prime with the exception of A-Choke and Nady. Cano has had one outstanding second half in the last two seasons and has been below average the rest of the time. He still has to prove he is a high quality major league hitter. If they can’t sign Sabathia you can’t rely on the other pitchers in the free agent market as a relatively sure thing to produce. Burnett is 31 coming off a career year. Do Pavano or Wright come to mind? Cashman won’t even guarantee a spot for Hughes or Kennedy next year when they were deemed untouchable for Santana. A complete 180 degree turn for the untouchables in a possible deal for Santana. Let’s not forget the great Latroy Hawkins and Billy Traber.
by TheTruth08 on Sep 30, 2008 6:52 PM EDT 0 recs
Are you channeling Andy Roth?
This is a good move—regardless of Cashman’s mistakes and shortcomings. Give him a chance to finish what he set out to do—rebuild the minors and infuse the young talent with the big club. This was no easy task—especially considering the demands of winning in NY. I give Cashman kudos. Our minor league teams finished at the top and we have a crop of strong young arms.
How will they translate? Who knows? I liked the young arms like Ramirez, Coke, Robertson, Sanchez (for the brief times we saw him). I’m encouraged by Brett Gardner. He reminds me of David Eckstein. We need role guys like him and Cody Ransom to augment the sluggers and all-stars that we have.
Cashman shouldn’t guarantee spots for Kennedy and Hughes. He needs to move fastidiously with free agents—and I believe he will.
Yeah, he made mistakes … You forgot to mention Igawa. But I do believe he is the right man for right now and should be given an opportunity to finish what he started. It was a good move.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on
Oct 1, 2008 11:07 AM EDT
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Re-signing Cashman....
is a no-brainer, from what I can see. The Yankees aren’t ready to go into a brand new direction and the list of free-agent GMs isn’t impressive. Go with the devil you know— and hope he doesn’t fork you in the end.
by nettles9 on
Oct 3, 2008 6:53 AM EDT
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well done
who doesn’t make brutal mistakes as a GM? its so hard to tell
cashman will undoubtedly bring this team back to greatness sooner or later
i also cant envision anyone else at the helm of the organization
by jeterfan21 on Sep 30, 2008 7:04 PM EDT 0 recs
I am really
not sure if it’s a good thing that he’s back.
At least it’s a good thing it was done early so as not to disrupt other off season negotiations.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Sep 30, 2008 8:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Cashman' signing
means the team is going to go the player development route, rather than the sign-every-free-agent route.
by 3460kuri on Sep 30, 2008 8:53 PM EDT 0 recs
Player development route?
Like passing on Santana for two pitchers of lesser talent?
When your team does not have the ability to scout and develop, player development route will kill you.
by Raven King on
Sep 30, 2008 10:48 PM EDT
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Player Development
The Yankees couldn’t sign their Number 1 draft pick this year and apparently he made it pretty clear he was going to go to college. Money wasn’t an issue for him since him father is a multi-millionare. But Cash and his great vision couldn’t see this. And they didn’t sign their second and third round picks. All three by the way were pitchers. The supplemental pick was another pitcher that I saw pitch in the College World Series who showed me nothing. Of course that was the one player who did sign.
by TheTruth08 on
Sep 30, 2008 10:55 PM EDT
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You're wrong
All indications were that Cole was going to sign. His father decided to take full control of this thing and wouldn’t even accept an offer from the Yanks.
This surprised everybody, including Scott Boras himself. And we all know that Boras wanted to get paid, so I don’t think he was thrilled that Cole’s father decided to go that route.
And I’m not sure what you saw in the CWS regarding Jeremy Bleich – but I saw a kid that pitched extremely well until his final start.
He mowed down two of the top offensive clubs in the country in back-to-back starts (Cal State Fullerton and Florida State) after coming back from arm trouble he had earlier in the season.
He’ll probably sail through the minors at a pretty fast rate.
by anaconda on
Oct 1, 2008 12:48 AM EDT
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Jeremy Bleich
Saw him in his final start of the CWS. I’m sure he’ll do as well as Kei Igawa in the minors. Just like Hughes and Kennedy were going to win 25-30 games by most of the people here, you are pretty sure he will sail through the minors. I forgot, he is a Yankee prospect so he is sure to do big things.
What’s your prediction on the win totals for Hughes and Kennedy next season?
by TheTruth08 on
Oct 1, 2008 1:13 AM EDT
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I never made any predictions with Hughes and Kennedy for 2008 and I’m not going to do it for 2009.
As I said, you didn’t see Bleich pitch outside of his last game. It happened to be the only bad start he had. His other two starts in the CWS were outstanding and he did it against two top offensive teams.
And don’t compare me to others who view every Yankee prospect as a sure thing. I may not be an expert talent evaluator – but I do pay close attention to the farm and I don’t get my hopes up about every prospect.
Perhaps I should repeat myself, I did say that Bleich would probably sail through the minors. Why? Because he’s a polished young kid who knows how to pitch. Those guys usually fare pretty well against minor league hitters ala Ian Kennedy.
I never said anything about his ability to get major league hitters out. That’s something we’ll have to evaluate down the road.
by anaconda on
Oct 1, 2008 1:39 AM EDT
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Dude ...
Does a grey cloud follow you around all day long?
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on
Oct 1, 2008 11:08 AM EDT
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Cashman Dancing With Stars
If Dancing With Stars was solely tap dancing, Brian would
be a ’slam Dunk" winner.
by jimsdiamond on Oct 1, 2008 11:35 AM EDT 0 recs
I like the move...
Yes of course he made mistakes, but name me a GM that hasn’t made one. Though the team is indeed in its turnover season, their is a lot of stuff to look forward to. Once again, people jump on players the instant that they don’t perform. Kennedy and Hughes have 12 and 21 games started respectively. Maybe their should be more then 2 seasons to decide whether their career can take off in NY. Also, an aging roster? If anything, we have infused more youth this past season then we have in any of the previous years. The mistake that was made the previous season was relying so much on our young players. Coming into this season, the rotation should have a good mix of veterans and young players. Bring back Mussina and Pettite for another year, with an option max. Those deals don’t involve shelling out more then $20 million a year for 5-7 years. Make Kennedy, Hughes, Aceves fiight for spots on this team. Don’t go out an make that big free agent deal for a starter. Those deals just simply are too risky, especially for someone like AJ Burnett who is an injury risk, and CC Sabathia who could fold under NY pressure. Stick Chamberlain in the rotation from the opening of spring training. The rotation would go as follows:
1. Chamberain
2. Wang
3. Mussina
4. Pettite
5. Hughes/Kennedy/ Aceves
If and when one of those starters goes down to injury, you have some quality pitchers to go to.
In regards to the lineup, so long Abreu and Giambi. Get rid of Wilson Betemit and his below .300 OBP. Sign Mark Texiera to solidify the defense at first. Also go after a backup outfielder who can play defense and is a stolen base threat. Add another backup who can hit unlike Betemit. The lineup would be as folllows:
1B: Mark Texiera
2B: Robinson Cano
3B: Alex Rodriguez
SS: Derek Jeter
CF: Melky Cabrera/Brett Gardner platoon
LF: Johnny Damon
RF: Xavier Nady
DH: Hideki Matsui
C: Jorge Posada
Bench
UTL: Cody Ransom
OF:
C: Jose Molina
UTL:
The bullpen should stay as it is. It really has been a strength of the Yankees this season. Rivera, Veras, Ramirez, Coke, Bruney and Sanchez or Robertson
by MartyMcFly on Oct 1, 2008 5:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Your close...
Im all for Texiera, since the trade deadline he’s been the best hitter besides Manny.
Pitching needs help. I say Joba should be third to Mussina then Wang, then either C C or Derek Lowe. If you cant sign a guy trade Hughes or Kennedy because they’re not that good. The bullpen needs a better set up man. Try one of those prospects out in there.
Trade Posada, Pudge(you forget he excists?), Matsui, Damon, Giambi, Abreu, Cano (if Hank doesn’t try to do the deal he can get a lot for him, guys who can hit well all 162) for young guys and prospects.
They have to admit that the team is falling apart. Next year if we keep our line up well go .500 tops. Trade those guys, admit you haven’t won in a while, and win in a couple of years.
No more Yankee Stadium, no matter what they call the new one.
by USCnumber1 on
Oct 2, 2008 1:29 AM EDT
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Holy Moly!!
A Yankee team that admits defeat and decides to win in a couple of years???? I don’t know…. that would be unlike this franchise to do that, and I think fans would be against it. The Yankees are about putting all they can into every year to win-win-win. Yes, one might bring up the late 80s/early 90s but, well, that choice was based on poor decisions that put them into a losing situation. Anyway, teams don’t usually announce they are following this type of strategy, though I’m sure it’s been done.
Do you think other teams will give up good young guys and prospects for Matsui, Damon, Posada and Pudge, which is what you want? Unless you know something the other team doesn’t, I don’t think these players will bring back anything of significance. All are older or just not as good as they used to be. If you just want young players heck just grab them from your own minor league system— there’s plenty of young players down there! Giambi and Abreu are off the books so you can’t trade them. Cano you can get a little for but maybe not as much since the Yankees would be “selling low”, in a sense.
Hughes and Kennedy probably shouldn’t be written off… yet. The Yankees will need to keep pitching them until is it overwhelmingly evident they will never be any good, especially since they weren’t traded for Johan Santana. Relying on young pitching is a tough thing to do. Sometimes it works right away, sometimes it fails right away but, sometimes, it takes a little time for a pitcher to come around. They might end up being “not that good”. It is still a little too early to tell, in my opinion.
That is my last Yankee comment of the day. I’m Nettles9.
Good day.
by nettles9 on
Oct 3, 2008 7:15 AM EDT
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Pudge
He is gone, this was his final year of his deal and its unlikely that the Yankees will resign him, or even offer him arbitration possibly. Like the poster above me said, its highly unlikely that anyone would want to trade for Matsui or Damon. Trading Cano would also be like selling low, not much profit to gain from it. Though getting a setup man would be nice, I am not sure there is anyone on the FA market that would be worth it. Our dilemma these past seasons when signing free agents is that they haven’t been able to handle the pressure here in NY. Look at Quantrill from a few seasons past, also Mike Myers. Latroy Hawkins as well. Building up young pitchers that can handle the spotlight is the best way to go, and is why I am backing up Jose Veras. He did a pretty solid job this season, and I think he has the stuff to setup. Its just whether he has the mental fortitude.
by MartyMcFly on
Oct 4, 2008 1:28 AM EDT
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the problem
with saying ‘Cash made terrible move X’ is that it’s hard to tell what was really his what was demanded by Tampa. We can be reasonably certain that Clemens (1st time), RJ and Sheff were Tampa moves. Cash supposedly wanted Beltran and Vlad instead.
Cash traded for Arod, and as much as some dislike him, he’s much better than Soriano (and Texas even paid us $7 mil/year to take him… something that is starting to make sense to me). he was also responsible for the Knoblauch deal.
Not sure about Giambi and Mussina.
He WAS responsible for Wright, Pavano and Igawa (iirc).
the contracts to Posada, Arod and Mo were Hank/Hal driven.
the non-trade for Santana was more Cash. but so was the steal called the Abreu trade.
sure, he’s made some mistakes, but i like the direction he’s going. less reliance on aging free agents/trades and more on the farm system. before 2004, the draft was merely a way to acquire trading chips. now that Cash has more power, the draft is actually about grooming future Yankees.
by Travis G on Oct 1, 2008 9:16 PM EDT 0 recs









