Pavano
by yankeechaser on Sep 26, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
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will have pitched his last pitch in pinstripes. I see a lot of you think they should pick up his option. I mean come on did you guys see what i did over the last 4 years. the yanks will cut ties and never mention his name again. and i am adding some more words so its long enough to publish, but this is not enough so i have added more and more and more
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If the Yankees decline his option
It is my understanding that they have a week or two when only they can talk to him.
They should take that time and sign him to a cheap, incentive loaded contract. Then they should hope he earns those bonuses.
From what I’ve seen this year I’d rather have Pavano than IPK Rasner Giese Ponson etc etc. Listen, If you can add to Wang and Hughes by signing 4 of Moose, Andy CC and AJ then skip Pavano. However if you can’t sign all four keep Pavano as a “Plan B”.
I think he might like to pitch inNY
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Sep 26, 2008 12:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the option is declined, he will sign elsewhere
Some team will give him guaranteed money for one or maybe even two years, in hopes that he can repeat 2003-2004.
It’s an $11 million decision for the Yankees – pickup his $13 million option, or decline it and pay $2 million. I think they will pick up the option.
Pavano provides some pitching depth. He’ll certainly be behind IPK on the depth chart, but ahead of Rasner.
The Yankees wanted to trade for Jarrod Washborn and in this respect Washborn and Pavano are interchangeable – a veteran pitcher to provide a predictable performance and provide depth, signed to a short term deal.
by 3460kuri on Sep 26, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You honestly think
The Yankees are going to pick up Pavanos Option? are you serious? these past 4 years have been an absolute nightmare with that guy, picking up that option would be a PR train wreck.
The Option will be declined, the Yankees will pay the 2 million dollar buyout to get him out of town, they might even pick up his travel expenses to make it even quicker. This last start solidified his chance to make the Yankees next year, which translates into no shot.
I hated the signing when it happened and I am relieved that the Yankees will be done with this bum.
by BigDanz2000 on Sep 26, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a short term commitment....
To a pitcher that is better than both Sidney Ponson and Darrell Rasner. I pick it up.
by 3460kuri on Sep 26, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing you're not running the team
Hal and Cashman do. And they won’t touch him.
That would be the equivalent of re-signing Pascual Perez back in the early 90s when he rarely pitched for this club during his tenure and was generally viewed as soft.
And he didn’t make anywhere near $40M.
by anaconda on Sep 26, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing you're not either
I think your my nemises on this board. We disagree about everything.
Pavano is a better pitcher than Rasner, and he might even have some trade value. A short-term financial commitment is nothing to the Yankees.
Make the deal.
by 3460kuri on Sep 26, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not up to either of us
But the guys making those decisions won’t go near him. Their vote counts. Ours doesn’t.
by anaconda on Sep 26, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd sign him ...
Pointing to his past is futile. He’s pitching better than Rasner, Ponson. He’s got better stuff than both, and he appears to be healthy. I’d sign him cheap for heavy incentives — if for no other reason than starting pitching depth. Going into 2009 unsure of Pettitte, Moose, CC, and pinning hopes on Hughes and Kennedy again is not an option as far as I’m concerned.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on Sep 26, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen to this man!
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Sep 30, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not futile to look at his history
because that’s the best measuring stick to evaluate him going forward. And Ponson won’t be a Yankee next season so it’s a moot point to compare the two.
They should have better pitching depth in 2009, but that will not include Pavano. I can guarantee you that.
by anaconda on Sep 30, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no to Pavano
he only adds pitching depth if he’s healthy, to which he’s only proven that he’ll be healthy the last month of a contract year (what a coincidence!). and even then, it’s not like he pitched well: 5.77 ERA, never more than 6 ip/start, 15 k, 10 bb, 5 HR (for a GB pitcher) in 34.1 ip.
with that said, if Cash thinks he can pick up the option and then trade him for something of value, then sure.
by Travis G on Sep 26, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pavano
Will say the same old story ….. he owes us. He should work for free next year!
by Janny on Sep 27, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow! I really can't believe people want to
resign arguably the biggest trainwreck in Yankee FA siging history. I hear that Kenny Rogers is a FA this off season. Maybe we should resign him. And while we are at it lets add that monument to Ed Whitson at the new Yankee Stadium Monument Park.
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. --Billy Martin
by garp on Sep 27, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not hearing me ...
I understand the VERY negative stigma attached to anything Pavano—I get that, believe me. I hate the guy too—not just because he screwed the Yankees, he also screwed sweet Alyssa Milano and a bevy of other starlet beauties. But he’s a demonstrative upgrade over what we have, and given the reality that we may not have Pettitte or Moose; we can’t count on Hughes or Kennedy; CC and company may not want to play in NYC for the Yankees, Pavano is a viable and likely cheap option.
If he comes on the cheap, and Cashman doesn’t sign him, he’s a fool.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on Oct 1, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sign Him
To a base salary that he donates to charity if the thinks he owes then he can do that since he made all that money for 9 wins in four years.
by alireza317 on Sep 30, 2008 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The past contract is sunk cost and irrelevant to the current discussion.
The question is what kind of a pitcher can he be. Our manager says , “You do not forget how to pitch.” Bring him back to be one of 8 candidates for the rotation.
Wang
Pettitte
Joba
FA
FA
Pavano
Hughes
Kennedy
Eight is not too many, somebody will flop, some people will get hurt. Somebody can work long relief.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Sep 30, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should add
Aceves and Coke to that list (and maybe Moose).
by Travis G on Sep 30, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spot on ...
You included Pettitte, I wouldn’t. That further illustrates our point that you never, ever have enough pitching.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on Oct 1, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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