Game #131 - Boston Red Sox @ New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox at New York Yankees, Aug 26, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
BOSTON RED SOX

Jacoby Ellsbury, RF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
David Ortiz, DH
Kevin Youkilis, 3B
Jason Bay, LF
Jed Lowrie, SS
Coco Crisp, CF
Jeff Bailey, 1B
Kevin Cash, C
NEW YORK YANKEES

Johnny Damon, CF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Álex Rodríguez, 3B
Jason Giambi, 1B
Xavier Nady, LF
Hideki Matsui, DH
Robinson Cano, 2B
Jose Molina, C
PREGAME NOTES:
Yanks are on a bit of a roll having won six of their last eight games.
David Ortiz is just 6-for-29 (.207) against the Yanks this season with a homer, no walks and six strikeouts.
Tim Wakefield is a lifetime 9-17, 5.14 ERA, 1.44 WHIP in 47 games (30 starts) against the Yanks. He is 0-1, 6.94 ERA, 1.46 WHIP in 2 starts against them in 2008.
Andy Pettitte is a lifetime 16-7, 3.54 ERA, 1.37 WHIP in 31 games (29 starts) against the Red Sox. He is 1-1, 5.06 ERA, 1.87 WHIP in 2 starts against them in 2008.
Red Sock hitters vs. Pettitte can be viewed here. Yanks' hitters vs. Wakefield can be viewed here.
JOBA TO THROW THURSDAY: Joba Chamberlain is expected to throw 45 pitches in the pen on Thursday and the Yankee hierarchy will make an evaluation on his status after his session.
Joe Girardi offered no details but it is possible that Chamberlain could be activated after his session and return to the bullpen so that he can be stretched out again for a move back into the rotation.
Not sure if that's wise, but it seems that the results of this series could make the decision on Chamberlain for them.
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Going over to OTM, got the GameThread up in the FanPosts...
if any Sox fans are reading this…
Dammit Bay…
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
A sweep would be nice
And I think we have to sweep one series or the other to win the wild card, just considering the number of wins it will take to beat the Twins.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Even if they do play well this series
I’d be worried about Toronto this weekend with the whole Boston hangover and all combined with their inability to hit guys like Halladay or Burnett.
Trying to get Gameday to load
what happened?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
This ump
is all over the road. Balls are strikes and strikes are balls.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
A stupid run on two 60 foot singles
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
not Arod's fault
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
It's a damn shame Matsui had that knee problem
because he would have made such an enormous difference in the lineup behind A-Rod instead of Giambi.
One guy is hitting .343 / .450 / .507 in 67 AB with RISP and the other guy is hitting .205 / .352 / .321 in 112 AB with RISP.
I’ll let you figure out who’s who.
buckle up
Looks like there are going to be a lot of runs scored tonight. And tomorrow, for that matter.
by long time listener on Aug 26, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
Nah....
There have been three really cheap hits already tonight. Two were nothing more than swinging bunts and the other was a weak jam shot that found a hole (Bay).
Nevertheless
Pettitte has to be better than this.
Allowing that hit to Ellsbury was inexcusable. This lineup has 4 hitters in it and he’s already given up 3 runs. Boo.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
I don't disagree
But it’s not like Pettitte is getting hammered. I think it’s safe to say that the final score will not be 3-2.
I'm looking forward
to Nady in right next season.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
I'm looking forward to when we score some frickin' runs!
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate to say it.......
but I’m getting the growing suspicion that they migh bring Abreu back next season – which I think would be moronic.
The only way I’d consider bringing Abreu back is if he accepted a one-year deal and was the primary DH.
But that’s obviously not going to happen because there is already a logjam at the position with Matsui, Posada, and sometimes Damon for that role on the depth chart.
I just hope they don’t bring him back. Cut your losses and move on.
gamecast
made that look like a dying quail… how was it hit?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
If
Arod is on the bag there and not in front of it, Lowrie is out.
And nice job by Abreu air-mailing the cutoff man.
And nice job by Giambi not throwing home.
This team has the baseball IQ of Forrest Gump.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Looks like a lot of if's to me
I mean Shit this sucks
Why are we paying this Ass 28 million or whatever to allow 3 hits to him?
i am really starting to wonder if this idiot is a cancer to this team.
How is this all A-Rod's fault?
I’ll never understand all the A-Rod hating.
- Pettitte didn’t pitch well
- Giambi started walking back to the dugout when another run scored
- Abreu threw a lollipop to home plate
It's not his fault
until he hits into a double play in a few minutes. : )
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
I think both will be back
even if they do manage to sign Sabathia.
Hughes and Kennedy will start 2009 in Scranton.
I really like Moose for some reason.
I cant really pinpoint why.
3 runs is nothing
the team’s avg. over 6 lately, so if the bullpen holds, they get to the avg runs, they’ll be ok this game
nothing?
I’ve seen a lot of games this year where we didn’t score 3.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget who's pitching tomorrow
Good thing the bullpen had yesterday off with Andy’s short outing and Ponson up tomorrow
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
Giambi
is awful with RISP this year, but overall he is having a productive season, better than most first baseman this year.
If you went back to Spring Training and said GIambi will play as many games as he has at first base and would have the numbers he has now, every one of us would have signed up for it. It’s hard to get down on him when no one expected him to stay healthy and produce anything more than mediocre numbers.
ARod on the other hand is having an awful season by his standards, and he tries to hit the ball out of the stadium every time he comes up lately. It’s way easier to get frustated when he doesn’t do his job than it is when Giambi doesn’t do his. Plus, he’s also a jackass – which I wouldn’t mind so much if he had 40 plus dingers and 100 plus RBI’s.
End of rant.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
I actually like Giambi
Its just hes got this loveable loser thing about him and gets away with things A-rod cant. My point, basically is that I just dont understand some of the outright hatred for A-rod.
You said it, brother
But much of the hatred for A-Rod always comes back to his contract. Whether he likes it or not, he’ll have to live with it.
A-Rod doesn’t always use his head, but he is subjected to much higher standard than anyone else. And for good reason, I suppose.
It's not hatred
it’s pure frustration.
He developed a reputation as a less than great performer in high leverage situations – a reputation he went a long way towards erasing last year.
Now he’s right back where he was two years ago. We just want him to play like the best player in the game. All too often he looks a lot less than that.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
I'm curious
as to why he’s the best player in the game, I suppose it’s all around, because all of the pundits agree he’s not their first choice for 3B or to bat in a clutch situation
He's the best player in the game
because he’s the most talented. And his career numbers back that up.
I agree
he is the most talented all-around, but I think there’s something to the fact that he’s not the #1 choice in the afforementioned things
Alex Rodriguez 2008 vs career.
2008: .312/.402/.590 160 OPS+
Career: .306/.390/.579 148 OPS+
Yep, awful by his standards.
The dude missed 20 games; that results in lower HR/RBI totals.
Go Nova
Not one of those pitches was in the zone.
So yes, I will boo.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
not one of those pitches was in the zone because at the worst, they walk arod and can deal with Giambi, at best, they get Arod to chase a pitch because he knows he’s got to get the job done with more than a walk.
His job is to not make an out.
I will never boo anyone for working a walk
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The 4 and 5 holes
Where rallys go to die.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Mark Kotsay
The Red Sox have just traded for Kotsay. Interesting.
by BillyBobisdrunk on Aug 26, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
I think he is going to replace Casey as a corner IF sub.
He has neck issues. Any word on who the Sox sent back to the Bravos?
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
as long as the red sox are the wild card leader and we're only 3 back
with the 3 game series at the end they’re ok, i’m not sure though what the season series is at so maybe not but if we’re only 2 back then def still in it
Can you try not to wish for injuries to the Sox?
Nobody’s on OTM, so I’m coming back over here.
I was hoping the Rays would get injured, and now that they did, we got a ton of injuries too. Karma sucks.
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Not a one year fluke...
probably a good shot at first next year and the year after if they continue to develop. This year is a fluke though because they are way too lucky and we have had loads of bad luck.
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Oh great... Lopez is in...
If we follow him with Timlin and MDC (Manny Delcarmen), ya’ll might be up by the ninth. And yet, as I typed that, he gets two outs.
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
And he K's Cano. I love when the baseball gods screw with me to make me seem crazy.
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
The Jays are leading the Rays 3-2 after 6 innings, if anybody cares...
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Doesn't really matter if the Yanks don't win themselves
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The beauty of division games: It does matter if ya'll lose cause it means the Sox win!
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
I wish someone would do Cano's #s
because seemingly when he takes at least the first pitch, his chances of getting a hit skyrocket
I think tomorrow's game is on ESPN, no?
Don’t they usually run the "after A-B count, 0.* BA, * HR, * RBI?
You should be able to see if you’re right tomorrow…
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
yea that's true
that would clarify things a little, but I would like to see the #s when he actually takes a pitch kinda like Abreu
baseball-reference.com
First pitch .235 .233 .306
1-0 .269 .269 .404
0-1 .279 .279 .541
The info is free, and the splits are telling.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
career:
.349 .348 .527
.338 .342 .530
.383 .387 .636
That shows you how far from himself Cano has been.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
aren't there
or shouldn’t there be coaches watching these numbers and telling him? I mean i’m sure there is but this guy needs this kind of thing beaten into his head
Didn't Cano use to be what Howie Kendrick is now?
The 2b with great, great bat control?
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
I still think the potential is there
he needs someone on him though day in and day out to get him motivated/going/whatever word fits here
I said the same thing about the Sox young pitching prospects who all seem to have issues with confidence...
LIQUID COURAGE!!!!
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
My god this AB is sad based on the past...
David Robertson pitching to Jeff Bailey. Both the Sox and Yanks are going the farm route, so these no name players are gonna become more prevalent I guess. Here’s hoping they make a name for themselves beating up on the Rays!
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
I know the new Yankee stadium is gonna have the same dimensions, but is the orientation the same?
Is center field still gonna be east of home plate?
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Is Robertson really that scared of Crisp?
He has thrown a ton of pickoff attempts… I would hate to see Ells on first while he is pitching…
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Well, with no one in front of him...
Right now, I wouldn’t mind Ells on any base…
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
He already stole off Pettite and Molina tonight so yeah
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess he was preparing to get Coco on a catcher's throw...
Dammit Koko, RUN!!!
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Well, there goes the lead...
MDC in, Youk at 1b, Lowrie at 3b, Cora at SS
I-rod to bat
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
I would be static...
Can’t get much worse than it is now… (unless you’re a Mets/Cardinals fan)
Should be a running joke about Sox defensive subs: They only happen when we go to the bullpen, and for good reason.
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Why are they subbing
in the 8th on the road with a 4 run lead?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Because it is the Sox' 08 bullpen
A four run lead might as well be a 1 run lead with them up…
Don't question my choice of teams, or I will have to go all troll on you.
Don't do that shit to me
Just cause I moved out of range of John Sterling’s broadcast’s doesn’t mean I miss the bullshit.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
for the love of everything holy
get a hit, alex
by long time listener on Aug 26, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
C'mon Arod
Make this worth staying up for…
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Yikes I almost predicted this exact scenario.....
Don’t worry
he’ll blow his nose with a 1000 dollar bill and strike out against Delcarmen as the tying run his next time up.
“Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win.”
— Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope’s death
by matthaggs on Aug 26, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Waiting for the computer to catch up so I know what happened.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
There it is
worst possible outcome.
Well shit.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
How many times can this guy be defended
thennnn be given a chance to redeem himself thennnn fail again
Yea A-Rpd!
Good cut big guy. You’ll get ’em next time slugger. Keep your chin up.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
I'm always going to defend him
because there are too many people who don’t. Yankee fans are often moronic.
Look its the principle you pay a guy that kind of money he needs to perform.
If he cant in these situations there is a problem you have your opinion I have mine and I respect you for your opinion.
That's just it
Yankee fans think money buys victories and championships. It doesn’t. That might help explain no rings since 2000.
The Yanks have several issues that need to be addressed over the offseason. A-Rod is not one of them.
I think we know what's going to happen next season
He’ll be maligned the entire offseason and he’ll come back in 2009 and win another MVP.
That’s been his MO since his arrival.
Just a thought
many television/writers/etc…are saying 08 is already the best year in sports i.e. super bowl/wimbledon/U.S. Open/Olympics so wouldn’t a Yankees comeback and World Series in this fashion be the icing on the cake?
Get a few more guys on
and we can boo Arod again in the 9th!!!
Going off memory (which is dangerous), but Cano has crushed a couple of balls against Okajima. Matsui just needs to move the chains.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
So much for 2008
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Don't worry
he’ll come back when they’re 9 games out and throw 115 pitches.
This blows. At least I can find something else to do at night a month earlier than usual.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Hey
That’s Enrico Palazzo!!
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Enrico Pallazzo!
Enrico Pallazzo!
‘I must kill the Queen.’
‘… but this is our hill, and these are our beans.’
what can i say? it’s one of my faves.
At least he didn't hit into an A-Rod, I mean a double play.
Come on. You gotta admit that’s funny.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 26, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Pudge = awesome
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Arod due up fourth
would be fitting if he ended the game. The boos would drown out New York, New York.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Good for him
he’s closer to the post-game buffet.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Yes
As if the game wasn’t nauseating enough, he has to have this retarded conversation with Leiter.
Hey look who’s on deck.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
I do like
Flaherty and Leiter’s color commentary, though. They’re both knowledgeable and articulate.
by runbrettrun on Aug 26, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't be an idiot....
Unil you have evidence that A-Rod was on any juice – those allegations are slanderous.
Its like Arod hey Madonna is waiting for you.
I bet this teams wins another world series when that moron is gone.
I knock ARod here and there
but the Madonna thing…that’s rediculous. That kinda thing doesn’t affect him

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