Game #128 - New York Yankees @ Baltimore Orioles
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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New York Yankees at Baltimore Orioles, Aug 22, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
NEW YORK YANKEES
Johnny Damon, CF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Álex Rodríguez, 3B
Jason Giambi, 1B
Xavier Nady, LF
Hideki Matsui, DH
Robinson Cano, 2B
Jose Molina, C
BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Brian Roberts, 2B
Nick Markakis, RF
Melvin Mora, 3B
Aubrey Huff, DH
Kevin Millar, 1B
Luke Scott, LF
Ramon Hernandez, C
Jay Payton, LF
Juan Castro, SS
PREGAME NOTES:
Derek Jeter is just one hit away from becoming the 88th player in MLB history to achieve 2.500 hits in his career.
Yanks are just 5-7 head-to-head against the Orioles this season and just 2-4 against them at Camden Yards.
Radhames Liz is a lifetime 0-0, 2.08 ERA, 1.15 WHIP in two relief appearances against the Yanks. He is 2-2, 6.59 ERA, 1.72 WHIP in 5 starts at home this season.
Mike Mussina is a lifetime 10-8, 4.78 ERA, 1.32 WHIP in 25 starts against the Orioles. He is just 0-2, 11.12 ERA, 2.82 WHIP against them in 2 starts this season.
Yanks' hitters vs. Liz can be viewed here. Orioles' hitters vs. Moose can be viewed here.
HUGHES ON THE HILL: Phil Hughes is on the mound tonight for Scranton and is not expected to be on any limited pitch count.
You can follow the action here.
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Derek Jeter
Wow what an amazing accomplishment who think he can break Pete Roses hit record
by MedFan on Aug 22, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great range by cano there
even the orioles commentators are chirping him
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jeterfan21
I am watching the game at work on ESPN
by MedFan on Aug 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we put Ken Singleton
in the Announcers’ Old Folks Home, please? This guy has no clue what’s going on anymore. He just said the Yankees can’t hit cuz CMW got hurt. Let’s retire this old fogie immediately so I don’t have to listen to Grandpa gibber on about how they used to do things in 1968.
Thank you.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
I couldn’t disagree with you more. I like Singleton. In fact, he’s the best play-by-play announcer they’ve got because Michael Kay sucks.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He usually does color commentary
and I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I like my announcers knowledgeable and entertaining. he is neither, IMO. He too often relies upon conventional wisdom without actually knowing what’s happening.
Agreed on Kay, though. With our world-class organization, why can’t we have world-class announcers?
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the top play-by-play guy when Kay has the series off
I’ve never had a problem with Singleton. The only YES broadcaster I don’t like is Kay.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kay ain't so bad...
I watch games on MLB.TV so I get to hear everybody else’s commentators as well and there are some absolutely dreadful teams out there. Like the two jokers they have for the Orioles tonight.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Toronto, I’m getting the Orioles commentators and they are SOOO much worse than Kay and Singleton. The Twins ones are really bad too
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the White Sox might have the worst but the Angel’s color guy is by far the most annoying.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I live in Toronto… those commentators are probably the worst
They know absolutely nothing about the game
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We definitely agree on the Sox announcers
The WORST in baseball. And it’s not even close.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're talking about Thorne and Palmer
We couldn’t disagree more. I think that combo might be the best tandem of any Yankee opponent.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thorne has been known to make some rediculous claims.
It seems like at least once a game he says something that makes me say, “What the hell is he talking about?”
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
One time was when he and Palmer started talking about Curt Schilling’s blog. He then started talking about the world series incident with the bloody sock and talked about how it was for PR and was just painted
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked Thorne
In fact, Thorne had some of the best home run calls during the Yanks’ playoff run in the late 90s and early 2000s.
You would’ve thought he was the Yankee announcer with the enthusiasm in his voice when Tino Martinez and Scott Brosius hit those dingers in the 2001 World Series.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind listening to him but I’m much too young to remember home run calls back then.
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will say that I used to like him a lot more.
It seems like ever since the aforementioned bloody sock incident, he has started going senile or something.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 22, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugly start from Hughes tonight so far....
2.0 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K — 50 pitches, 33 strikes
Ugh. Not good.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure there's some excuse
Cash Man will feed the media as to why.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Predictions on Jeter's
career hit total, when all’s said and done???
I’ll say – 2,958.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so tired of the 300 strike em out throw em outs we’ve gone into this year.
The EXACT same thing happened a week ago but what ever idiot calls this never seems to learn
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that idiot would most likely be Girardi, or as I like to call him, the worst manager everrr
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to Singleton
I guess it would be hard to manage with so many injuries. Too much pressure, like he said about the Yank hitters. Once everyone’s healthy, Girardi will manage great.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I highly doubt that
Everyone acts like we have the worst team without injuries but we’re clearly one of the top teams regardless. All our useless manager does is overmanage the lineup, call hit and runs every inning, mismanage the bullpen, and whine about how the offence isn’t producing while he played Sexson, Christian, and Melky in the same game.
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When does Girardi ever whine?
You must be thinking of someone else. Girardi is a lot of things, but he doesn’t whine.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him on a twins broadcast talking about how there’s nothing he can do because the player’s cant produce offensively
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Abreu should stop trying to steal
He’s only got 14 SB on the season and has been thrown out 10 times.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes, i totally agree with “worst manager ever”
i’ve never seen our team waste this many outs
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
judging by the performance this year, i'm sure he drives the players crazy too
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they should speak up then
he needs to change like Coughlin did, the world saw what happened for the Giants, or he needs to go…and since according to anaconda, which is the most probable and reasonable outcome, they won’t fire him, but they should imo
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m not saying he’s a hard ass like Coughlin, just that the players didn’t respond to him originally
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be a hard ass like Coughlin
you have to have a young team.
This is obviously a veteran team, especially the position players. They don’t respond to that stuff as well because they’ve seen it all.
That was one of the primary reasons I wanted Mattingly to be the new manager. But Cashman and Hal wanted Girardi and they aren’t going to fire him anytime soon.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems like whenever we get ahead, we stop playing
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or when they get behind too, but they haven't been playing all year
it’s like they go up to bat expecting BP fastballs.
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'll be interesting
to see how they clean house in the offseason. I’m think T-Rex is gonna get a massive deal from us, for starters.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who told Hambone aka Giambi
To try and stretch out that single.
by MedFan on Aug 22, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shit who just hit the switch for these guys
by MedFan on Aug 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I read on one blog they think they got Pudge just to protect Molina for next year
can’t argue with the way he calls a game and he will hit once in a while so I could see some truth in that
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At this point...
Pudge should be spelling Molina, not the other way around.
by Pride O' Ireland on Aug 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously
Jose Molina should be our new clean-up hitter. Move A-Roid to the 8 hole, like Torre did in the playoffs.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need to win this game, Radhames Liz is the worst pitcher we’ve faced all year.
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rodriguez
looks like he’s just trying to pad his mediocre numbers every at bat lately
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey you remeber he gets paid 27 mill a year to do that too.
Well at least this offseason Derek & AROD can go chase women together in Europe.
by MedFan on Aug 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like he’s pretty frustrated… he’ll turn it around… the guy is a champ
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what does that matter?
Ernie Banks never played in a World Series and that certainly doesn’t diminish his status as one of the all-time greats.
By contrast, Luis Sojo has three rings and he was nothing more than a backup infielder.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A champ doesn’t slap balls out of infielders hands, nor does a champ yell behind an infielders back during a pop up…he has all of the qualities of a great player, IMO he plays the game all the wrong ways
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's your opinion
But he’s a Yankee for life whether we fans like him or not.
He’s going to break the HR record in pinstripes, retire in pinstripes, and wear a Yankee cap to the Hall of Fame.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him
there’s no doubt about that, just think there’s still a little maturation process he still needs to go though in order to reach his full potential i.e. become more of a team player. Pretty much the same deal for Cano even though he’s much younger
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
but the difference is A-Rod has reached his potential. He’s considered the best player in the game, so it would be tough to argue that he hasn’t done that.
I’m not so sure Cano will ever do that. Even the staunchest Cano supporter would argue that he doesn’t come to play everyday and often lacks focus.
By contrast, nobody works on his game harder than A-Rod.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should work on hitting to right field
by emille2 on Aug 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
A-Rod has definitely made it pretty well. I support Cano being the second baseman because I think he has a huge upside and that he might be having a down year… But, I definitely acknowledge that some games, he might as well not even come up to the plate at all. He needs some sort of disciplined coach who gets his focus straight and I know he’s one of the biggest free swingers in the game, but someone needs to tell him that it’s okay to wait a little bit. Stuff like that could actually get him going and really benefit him
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So this means
we can never criticize him?
Personally, I think he’s a cancer that will prevent the Yanks from winning a WS while he’s on the team.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never said that
He’s not a cancer. Only the fans who hate him think he’s a cancer.
I’m sure his teammates don’t feel that way.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so...
Texas was all to happy to get him outta there, and the Mets didn’t want him in free agency. It’s common knowledge most of the players hate him, and think he’s a phony, not to mention a choker.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Name me the Yankee players who hate A-Rod. Show me proof. That’s just your speculation – not based on fact.
And he was traded from Texas because of his contract. It didn’t allow them to address other needs – like pitching. That’s something they still haven’t figured out and it’s been 4 years since they traded him.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's some
His contract is part of him…if he wasn’t paid like the best player of all times, people would cut him some slack. And the players know it too – if you’re gonna make $32M per year, you better be damn sure not to be a choker. So, I’m sure that’s what lies behind the players’ hatred of him.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares whether his teammates like him?
The guy is the opposite of a cancer… he’s a consistent producer who, despite not hitting with RISP and struggling in the playoffs, has been a key to us even getting to the playoffs and winning as many games as we have. Do you know how much pressure must be on the guy to perform perfectly by fans like you? He’s done a fine job and it’s definitely not him that’s preventing this team of unmotivated team of veterans from winning the World Series
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
It’s been the Yankee starting pitching that has prohibited this team from advancing past the ALDS in recent years.
It has been downright atrocious.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly
one guy can ruin a team’s cohesiveness. Especially when you’re supposed to be the best player ever and you hit .250 w/ RISP, and around the same in Late & Close situations.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't the case last season
He was the best player in the majors in those clutch and late inning situations.
He’s not doing it this season, but the entire team is underachieving terribly in those situations.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Cuz he knew he was opting out last year and needed a new 10-year deal.
My opinion, not based on facts, is that he was on HGH, too. But I can’t support that with proof. Only the spike in his numbers, and then once the deal is signed, now, his #s revert back to form.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until next season when he will probably win the MVP again
Well, that’s fine if you don’t like the guy. But the HGH charges are over the top and a little uncalled for.
by anaconda on Aug 22, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see about next year
but we disagree on HGH. It’s completely legitimate to question whether we’re paying for steroid production. Remember, you and I and every other Yankee fan pay the guy’s salary in the form of $8 hot dogs and $10 beers, ever-rising tix prices, etc etc. So, I think we have a right to expect to get our money’s worth, and if not, bring up the issues as to why we’re not.
And think about this for a second: if YOU had $300 million on the line, they couldn’t test for it, you could get a prescription for it which wouldn’t make it illegal, and you could pay off anyone involved to keep their mouth shut, would YOU do HGH? I know I would, and I just think it makes way too much sense for him NOT to have done it.
.286 36 106
.321 48 130
.290 35 121
.314 54 156
.309 28 77 – 2008 so far
A-Rod’s #s a Yank. That’s a damn big spike in ’07, followed by a bad year in ’08.
Time will tell, but I’m glad I got this out there. It’s been on my mind for a while.
by runbrettrun on Aug 23, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No championship, but he’s just a great player… I wouldn’t give him away for anyone
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHA… thorne and palmer on that ball falling
“a good right fielder catches that ball”
“damon can’t run”
“the yankees do not have a real center fielder”
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we’re going to lose so many games down the stretch because our outfielders can’t catch
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another run in thanks to damon and abreu’s inability to run
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it Pena's job to pay attention and call Abreu back?
Anyways, we’ve been screwed on close calls a lot this year… it’s good to have some luck… unfortunately, we’re absolutely pathetic with runners on third and it would be devastating if we didn’t get a run in
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rivera's got 2 more years
after this one. Too early to be thinking about replacements. Will probably be some guy currently in A ball.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It hit Molina and he swung so once it nailed him, there must be some rule that he’s automatically out and that Hernandez doesn’t need to throw to first.
by jeterfan21 on Aug 22, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cody Ransom For President
Or at least as a replacement for the Steriod Stache.
by runbrettrun on Aug 22, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap!
Cody Ransom AGAIN?!!
Break Out The Oreos: a one-stop shop.
by dzawaki on Aug 22, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Nady!
Break Out The Oreos: a one-stop shop.
by dzawaki on Aug 22, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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