Game #89 - Boston Red Sox @ New York Yankees
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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Boston Red Sox at New York Yankees, Jul 6, 2008 8:05 PM EDT
BOSTON RED SOX
Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
Dustin Pedroia, 2B
J.D. Drew, RF
Mike Lowell, 3B
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Sean Casey, DH
Coco Crisp, CF
Julio Lugo, SS
Kevin Cash, C
NEW YORK YANKEES
Brett Gardner, LF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Álex Rodríguez, 3B
Jason Giambi, 1B
Jorge Posada, DH
Robinson Cano, 2B
Melky Cabrera, CF
Jose Molina, C
PREGAME NOTES:
- Johnny Damon has been officially placed on the 15-day DL for the first time in his career. Justin Christian has been recalled from Scranton to take his vacated spot on the active roster.
- Jose Molina has been an assassin behind the plate - throwing out the last 10 potential base stealers - and leads the major leagues throwing out 22 of 47 (46.8%) on the season. By contrast, Jorge Posada and his ailing shoulder has thrown out just 3 of 33 (9%) potential base stealers.
- Tim Wakefield is a lifetime 9-16, 5.03 ERA, 1.44 WHIP in 45 games (28 starts) against the Yanks. He is 1-8, 6.82 ERA, 1.53 WHIP over his last 10 starts against them.
- Joba Chamberlain is a lifetime 1-0, 2.08 ERA, 1.38 WHIP in 3 relief appearances against the Red Sox. He is 1-0, 2.17 ERA, 1.52 WHIP in 5 outings since his transition to the rotation.
- Red Sox' hitters vs. Chamberlain be viewed here. Yanks' hitters vs. Wakefield can be viewed here.
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On paper, this looks like a good matchup fro the Yanks
Joba starting. Manny out. And they’ve pummeled Wakefield in recent years.
BTW, it looks like Sabathia is now headed for the Brewers.
This move now puts some pressure on the Cubs to do something.
I can’t imagine they will sign him to a long-term deal so the Yanks have a good a shot as anyone to land him if Cashman decides to pull the trigger. No guarantee that will happen, though.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's game
no way the Yankees score a second run. All the red sox have to do is wait until they can push across another run.
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did I miss
A trip to the mound by the pitching coach or “The Captain” to get this Kid’s head on straight? Seriously, he’s essentially a rookie, help him out!
by Rusty23 on Jul 6, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Memo to Joba:
PLEASE STOP BLOCKING THE PLATE.
I don’t want to see the best arm in the organization on the DL because some base runner took out your knees at home plate.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe that'll start another winning streak
the ump has been killing us all night
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just stumbled home from the bar
This ump has had one of the worst strike zones I have seen in forever.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gardner just scored
did he get a hit?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
single to center, then stole second
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet
I’m really worried about him leading off regularly. He was a high walk/strike out hitter in the minors because he’d work deep in counts and take advantage of the wildness of minor league pitchers, and I’m worried that his wait for a good pitch approach won’t work in the bigs.
He’ll have to get his share of hits.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bah
It’s an unfair game.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great hands Juicy
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad baseball
You can’t throw a 3-2 breaking ball to Ellsbury with the way Pedroia is swinging. Joba shaking his catchers off on a regular basis is annoying. He’s been in the league 5 minutes, they’ve been around forever. Trust them. That was the biggest moment of the game.
Jeter can’t get doubled off second there. Arod was on deck. He’s gotta wait for that ball to go through and stop at 3rd if it did.
Jeter has to be smart enough to eat that ground ball up the middle with Lugo running, and Giambi has to get his fat ass off the bag and play first base like a goalie there. He didn’t even move. It would be nice if he removed his head from his ass and started playing well again.
Dave Robertson can’t give up an RBI double to the backup catcher.
Such an annoying team to watch this year.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on Jul 6, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
on Joba shaking off the catchers.
Miller actually made a good point, that the way Joba was shaking off Molina was ‘tipping’ fastball to the hitter, because he’d nod yes to pitch and again to location. He needs a second signal.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was fun to watch
:D
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robbie Cano!
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be damned
I really thought they would lay down after that 4th run scored.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's the first time
the Yanks have scored a 3rd run this week.
I understand the feeling.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time for
Veras?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He would be my choice
but I bet it’s going to be Farnsworth against the heart of the Red Sox order. And I bet Manny comes in to PH for Casey.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waldman
says that “the team has confidence in Farnsworth”.
55,000 people in Yankee Stadium tonight, 25 of them have confidence in Farnsworth.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WoW Krazy Kyle get's it done.
I say let him pitch the 9th if we don’t score.
by bronxbound on Jul 6, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Watch your mouth, young man!
Never thought I’d see those words written by anyone.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a bad feeling
I never like Mo coming into a tie game like this. A scoreless frame and an A-Rod walkoff would be spiffy.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a great move
These aren’t hitters who have a ton of experience with Mo.
And before I can finish typing there’s a single.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check it out
Over at Gaslamp Ball we always complain when they bring Hoffman in the game in non-save situations because we think he is worse. So we did some statistics on Hoffman and Rivera in non-save situations to see if the two best closers of all time actually ARE worse in non-save situations. Click above to see the results. Basically:
We’re pretty confident that Mariano gives up earned and unearned runs at a greater rate during non-save situations
Mariano doesn’t appear to give up home runs or strike people out at a rate that’s statistically significant
We’re pretty sure that Mariano hits people at a greater rate when he’s in the middle of a save situation
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting stuff
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would be more difficult
is to look at those numbers in more context.
There’s 1000 AB difference between Mo in save and non-save situations. Is the 9% rise in opponent OBP within a standard deviation? Said another way, if you gave Mo another 1000 ABs in non-save situations, would his numbers regress to the mean?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Question
I guess there really isn’t a good way of doing that. I guess that’s why we qualify it with “pretty sure” or “pretty confident”. I think he says 85% confident.
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Walk Manny?
I do.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or maybe we don't
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. We’re pitching to this guy over Ellsbury?
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are really playing with fire here unnecessarily
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we got lucky
let’s please end this game in the 9th and not worry about extras
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whew...
It worked out, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a stupid decision.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So there's this pitcher
his name is Mario Riv-something.
I hear he’s pretty good at baseball.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Uno, Dos, Adios. Grab some pine, meat.
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Francona confuses me
the struggling lefty to pitch to Arod?
Square one up, and I promise not to make any Madonna cracks for a week.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding...
The Yanks have had many opportunities to win this game. Lots of gifts all the way around.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now they're bringing on okajima to face a-rod
is this a baseball game or a crazy-off?
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alright Jorge
End this game.
Pretty Please…
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
negativity alert
no way they take this game. at this point, I just hope they drill youklis.
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Optimist's take:
Free baseball!
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
K
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice job, Mo
It’s time for the offense to get it done now.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
So I hear cloning is legal in certain countries…
Maybe we should be invest our draft money in that.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A good thought
But it would take 25 years to clone Mo and plant him in the bullpen.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You only have to clone
his arm. Then graft it onto willing volunteers. I’ll be at the front of the line.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mo's pretty smart and the best ahtlete on the team
You might want the whole package. A great arm is worthless with a ten-cent head. Look at Farnsworth.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think Farnsy
is a whole ten cent head? Maybe allowing for the higher city prices, but I still think he’s a 6 or 7 cent guy.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
prediction
Melky hits one out and ends this. Mark it down.
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duly noted
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which inning? :p
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not now
because they’ll probably bunt. check back in the 12th.
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm for sure going to buy one of those stars and stripes hats!
How does everyone else feel about them?
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bleh
Gimmick. Merch. Cheesy.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's different
but I kinda dig them. Call me corny.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Yankees one alot
It works for some logos and not so much for others. But maybe that’s just me.
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't
pretend to like this move at all.
Molina is a very good situational hitter.
WB is not a contact hitter- he slugs mistakes. So they put him in against one of the toughest guys to hit in the league and ask him to make contact.
Great strategy.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not only that
but you take away a huge weapon behind the plate as well – especially in a tie game.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
Crazy AL rules. Do they lose the DH now if the Yankees don’t score here?
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Only if they put Posada in the field.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So long as the DH
stays at DH, everything else works just like a standard pinch-hit.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No...they still have Moeller to catch
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chad Moeller?
Haven’t heard his name in awhile.
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been buried on our roster
for month now because they’re not ready to commit to Posada’s balky shoulder.
I’d like to see Jorge spend the rest of the season spending time at first and DH.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moot Point
Yanks win!
Can we be saved? Has the damage all been done?
Is it too late to reverse what we've become?
A lesson to learn at a crucial point in time
What's mine was always yours, and yours is mine
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 6, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
a little bit of luck never hurt
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brett Fuckin’ Gardner.
The rook faces down Wakefield and Papelbon in the same night.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
you gotta love how he just battled… two strikes on him, and he does his best johnny damon impression. hopefully he can parlay this into some more hits… get that guy on base and he’s on second… love his speed.
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by NumberSeven on Jul 6, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 back
for the Wild Card.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jul 6, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's shocking
Given how poorly they’ve played at times this season, that’s almost mind-boggling. With all that’s gone on, if a couple of guys turn it around at the plate in the second half, and they can develop at least a reliable fourth starter, playoffs is still a possibility.
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem....
is that the Yanks will have to beat out either BOS or TB to make the postseason.
In all honesty, I’m not confident that this team can overcome either of them unless they really turn it on and start playing like the Yanks for an extended period of time.
by anaconda on Jul 6, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
There are a lot of “ifs” involved. Jeter, Cano, and Abreu have to hit more. Posada needs to hit for power. Matsui and Damon need to come back strong, or they need to find another outfielder. Mussina and Pettitte can’t show their age. They need a reliable fourth starter. Having said all that, if (there’s that word again) they can hang around, who knows.
by long time listener on Jul 6, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not impressed
with Boston all that much.
They are beyond horrible on the road, they have a ton of outs in their everyday lineup, their bridge to Papelbon sucks, and they are over-reliant on rookies in their starting rotation who I think/hope will soon have MLB catch up to them.
I don’t think Boston can get too much better than what they are right now, especially if Ortiz doesn’t come back at full strength.
They can be caught.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on Jul 7, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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