Game #86 - Boston Red Sox @ New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox @ New York Yankees
BOSTON RED SOX

Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
Dustin Pedroia
J.D. Drew, RF
Manny Ramirez, DH
Mike Lowell, 3B
Kevin Youkilis, 1B
Coco Crisp, CF
Jason Varitek, C
Julio Lugo, SS
NEW YORK YANKEES

Johnny Damon, LF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Álex Rodríguez, 3B
Jason Giambi, DH
Jorge Posada, C
Robinson Cano, 2B
Wilson Betemit, 1B
Melky Cabrera, CF
PREGAME NOTES:
- Brett Gardner is out of the lineup tonight against the left-hander, but Melky Cabrera and his 0-for-19 slide with horrific NL pitcher-like numbers against lefties (.196 / .296 / .293) is back in. Sigh, that makes sense.
- Pete Abe reports that Hideki Matsui has not responded well to physical therapy and will certainly be out until after the All-Star Break, if not longer. He's also expected to need surgery at some point.
- Jon Lester is a lifetime 0-0, 17.18 ERA, 3.00 WHIP in one start against the Yanks. He is 2-2, 4.66 ERA, 1.55 WHIP in 9 starts on the road this season.
- Andy Pettitte is a lifetime 15-6, 3.45 ERA, 1.34 WHIP in 29 games (27 starts) against the Red Sox. He is 4-0, 1.00 ERA, 0.96 WHIP over his last 4 starts.
- Red Sox' hitters vs. Pettitte can be viewed here. Yanks' hitters vs. Lester can be viewed here.
- BTW, Ian Kennedy makes his return to Scranton tonight and will start against Lehigh Valley (Phillies). He will be limited to about 90 pitches.
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I would have liked to have gone to this game.
Andy vs. the Red Sox. Classic.
by bronxbound on Jul 3, 2008 7:10 PM EDT 0 recs
Wow...
Jeter gave them a gift run there. Horrible throw.
by anaconda on Jul 3, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Ramirez
...yankee killer even with a sure DP. I don’t get it. Of all the sox I do respect the man’s work ethic tho.
by whollycow on Jul 3, 2008 7:16 PM EDT 0 recs
That error by Jeter really sucked
It turns a scoreless game into a 2-0 game and a 12-pitch inning into a 25-pitch inning.
by anaconda on Jul 3, 2008 7:20 PM EDT 0 recs
I Still
...don’t understang why he had the night off against the Rangers. Was that an injury thing? Seems like it takes him days to come back from a day off. What is that all about?
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Jeter has played every day since his quad injury in April
Girardi just decided to rest him for one night.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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I hope not
I wouldn’t do it in the 1st inning. 9th inning? Certainly.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Girardi's too
...predictable. He need’s to mix it up. Especially when you can’t count in 18 runs every night and you go 3-1 in the first real run against American league leaders.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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I think he's mixed it up too much
and trying too hard to outsmart people. That’s one of my biggest problems with him.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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Disagree
...played the percentages too much. Watch when Moose goes against Martinez again. I guarantee he’ll prove my point; unless he’s learnd from the last two burns.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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That's Girardi's problem
he’s plays the percentages too much.
The old adage is you don’t change anything in your lineup the night after you score 18 runs – especially when this team has had so many problems scoring runs.
But he has Melky out there tonight because he’s a switch-hitter (in name only) and benches Gardner.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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Girardi did it the other day as well
when he rested Abreu, Cano, and Giambi against Oliver Perez.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
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that
was a disgrace. Its not like this guy is Seattle era Randy Johnson.
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Agreed
...he plays the percentages (not a bad thing in baseball) too much. But he’s become predictable. I’m not talking lineup. I’m talking basic baseball.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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I dont agree with the bunt in most situations to begin with
but down 2 in the 1st does not make any sense.
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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I would
...have based on that throw and the unfortunate swing. He’s not 100%.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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??
Then he shouldnt be in the lineup. If you are going to sacrifice his at bats-in the first inning-because hes not 100% he shouldnt be playing.
Even if he scores, theyre still down one run and at least one out.
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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Well as Michael Kay would say:
An inauspicious start to this game…
by seanp23 on Jul 3, 2008 7:45 PM EDT 0 recs
Ok, it's time for that offense
we saw last night to show up.
by bronxbound on Jul 3, 2008 7:47 PM EDT 0 recs
When
...Hank speaks, they play. He needs to take the lead. He’s got his dad’s heart.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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No offense - but that's BS
Hank’s words have zero effect on this team. The players roll their eyes just like we do when he makes an ass out of himself.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:07 PM EDT
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Kennedy is doing so-so in Scranton
2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 ER 2 BB, 0 K – 48 pitches – 27 strikes, 21 balls
They are now in a rain delay.
by anaconda on Jul 3, 2008 8:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Are you saying Santana was the mistake or Sabathia?
Either way, I was against both moves. The old Steinbrenner Yankees of quick fixes and bloated payrolls has to end sooner or later.
I’m glad the transition is taking place now.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
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I think he was
referring to the failed Santana negotiations. Which I was against as well.
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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Jeter is having such a horrible season
It’s actually pretty sad to watch every day.
by anaconda on Jul 3, 2008 8:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Could be
...he’s insecure in this spot, but he’s hasn’t from day one utilized the hand he’s been dealt. Dumb baseball.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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I don't think
anyone knows what the hell you’re talking about.
Put the whiskey bottle down.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jul 3, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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Watch and
..learn, as Girardi will. We will not make the playoffs this year.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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takes a lot of guts
to make that bold prediction when the team is 7.5 games out of first…
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 8:27 PM EDT
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Are you watching?
The season started this week (Before the allstar break). And we are whorfully inadequate.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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Honestly
The way these boys are playing, we will be 12 games out by the break. Sucks, but true. And it’s Girardi. Period.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Exageration
to be sure, but we’ve got this series (-8.5) tonight. Tampa (-10.5), Pitsburgh”s a win (-9.5), and Toronto which in my opinion is an even match – So 10 games out by the break..
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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specifically
how has girardi. period. caused all this?
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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What does Girardi have to do with it?
It’s the players who are sucking right now.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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you mean Girardi has had nothing to do with Jeter's
horrible season? or Melky’s slump? or Hughes’ injury? or IPK’s ineffectiveness? or Kay’s annoying home run calls?
from everybody’s bitching and moaning, i thought all of that was Girardi’s fault.
by Clutch like Leyritz on
Jul 3, 2008 8:41 PM EDT
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Yeah, something like that
Girardi wasn’t my first choice to be the manager. But they hired him and he’s going to be there for awhile.
I’m trying really hard to like Girardi and always give him the benefit of the doubt. But I catch myself shaking my head a lot with some of his strategic moves and overall logic.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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the no bunt call the other day
was horrific.
by Clutch like Leyritz on
Jul 3, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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dumb baseball
is not bunting 6 pitches into the first inning apparently.
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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I don't buy that
I liked Torre but he wasn’t the reason why they won.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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can you say
effective starting pitching and consistent offensive production?
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Missing the postseason could be a good thing for this team
Boston has done okay since they missed it in 2006.
But the problem with the Yanks is that they have no MLB-ready position players ready to contribute.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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It is a huge problem
As well as the fact that we still can’t be sure that the young pitching will pan out the way we’d like to think it will.
by Rusty23 on
Jul 3, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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True
But if they keep stockpiling young pitching as they have over the last few years – some of these kids will stick and contribute to this team.
The one thing that I’ll never understand is why the organization has a whole essentially neglected the draft and player development for so many years when the dynasty was built on a youthful core from the system and a strong rotation.
That neglect by The Boss himself and not hiring competant people to run the draft has really come back to bite them the last few years.
The old quick fix method of signing FAs is increasingly becoming a thing of the past.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Pauly, Tino, Chuck etc
They did make some decent trades as well but you’re right, the practice of signing the “marque” free agents has largely been a failure for them (I swear it started with Giambi who could hit but not field forever causing a log jam at the DH spot). Another thing to consider is what happens to the line-up without Abreu and…gulp…never thought I’d say this…Giambi next year?
by Rusty23 on
Jul 3, 2008 11:27 PM EDT
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Disagree
...They’ve won two. We haven’t won baseball schtick.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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Please
spill some of that moonshine you’re swilling onto your keyboard and short it out.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jul 3, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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Since When
has young pitching won anyone anything? Not recently. Cashman screwed up.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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I think Joba's doing okay
And there are several arms at the minor league level who are going to get opportunities sooner or later.
by anaconda on
Jul 3, 2008 8:58 PM EDT
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A
..bottom line is, when did we win last? When did they win last? where does the curse lie now? Kennedy? Hughs? or Sabathia? It was stupid to pass that up.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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the guy pitching for the Sox today
clinched the 2007 world series.
Age: 24
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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Yeah
and press had an orgy with his no hitter and cancer thing. You’re point? Nolan Ryan, Mariano Rivera, etc…
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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What
in fuck’s name are you talking about?
I don’t speak idiot, but in trying to decode your above message it’s SANTANA I think you keep talking about and not SABATHIA. SABATHIA might be traded in the next month or so, but no discussions have taken place yet. SANTANA was traded this past offseason genius. SANTANA is the player that was “passed up”, not SABATHIA. SABATHIA is still with the team he has always been on.
GO AWAY.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jul 3, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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They could have
traded for him (and it is Sabathia, we could have traded for before the trade deadline), if Cashman would have been so inclined. Actually , we could have had him easily, Cleveland was willing to let him go and Cashman didn’t bite. So bite this Idiot, we lost on this one.
I promise to go away when you learn the game.
by whollycow on
Jul 3, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
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When?
last year? When they were 1 game out of first place at the all star break?
Sounds like a perfect time to trade the Ace of the staff…
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
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youre probably right
Cashman let people know he was not interested in a trade for C.C. If Cashman really wanted C.C. he should have called up the NY Post and let them know hes just dying to get him.
by seanp23 on
Jul 3, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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Sabathia is not available right now
So how could Cashman have traded for Sabathia when he’s not even on the market yet?
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