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Time to Do Away With the MLB Draft?

One of our local talk sportscasters here in Chesapeake, VA was all over the notion to do away with the MLB draft. I figured he ripped the story off the wires and was reading it verbatum, but I couldn't find a thing about it anywhere.

That said, he made valid points, that would lead me to support such a move. Here's the gist of what he was saying.

Keeping the draft in its present form penalizes teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Braves, Mets, Dodgers who historically finish strong and therefore rarely get to pick a blue-chip athlete within the first 1 to 10 picks. Adding insult to injury, these teams are also the same ones typically penalized by having to pay the luxury tax -- generally to the same failing franchises that stockpile top-flight talent each year.

Not getting a top pick forces successful team to have to buy their talent--stroking big $$$ checks and shipping second-tier talent to the above mentioned failing franchises--again rewarding them for their ineptness and failures.

Doing away with the draft, he said, would allow teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets to aggressively go after the blue-chip talent--making it likely they would go to the highest bidder. 
During the Yankees glory years of the 40s-50s, when there was no draft this was commonplace.

So how would this work? Well, big money teams would still pay the big luxury tax--to failing teams--allowing them to roll the money into player signing, or development of existing talent (which we all know they don't do now). Successful teams would be free to compete for the blue-chippers, but would be hampered (at least somewhat) by the luxury tax.

Frankly, I love the idea. I've never liked the draft because it rewards failure--year after year. I've often thought there should be a limit of one year to draft a top 1, or 2 player. Teams like the Rays who get the first pick would move to the back of the line in the next year--regardless where they finish.

Whether folks buy into doing away with the MLB draft or not, everyone should agree that the current system is horribly flawed.

I'd love to hear comments and suggestions on how others might want to rework, or redo the draft.  

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I don't see any problem

The concept that the worst teams get the first picks is the same in basketball (not sure about other sports).

And the Yankees’ financial resources give them an advantage in a way. Just because a crappy team drafts a top player doesn’t mean that player will sign. And teams recognize signability when drafting. So the Yanks often get players who would otherwise go higher (like Andrew Brackman and Gerrit Cole) but who fall to us because they’re repped by agents like Scott Boras (as both Cole and Brackman are) who milk every dollar out of teams—and GMs know they won’t be able to sign some of these players before they even attempt to draft them, so they don’t. Then we get them because we can.

"If you lived in my grandfather's house...and you wanted to eat, you had to be a Yankees fan." --Joe Biden

by SenorSwanky on Jun 9, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Worst Picks First

I believe this “worst picks first” happens in all four major sports. I would say no changes at this point. This is part of the price to pay for success. Just because teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Braves cannot get the top prospects doesn’t mean they cannot get any good prospects. Seems like the Dodgers, for example, are still able to get good/potentially good young players. It’s not like there are only a few good players coming out of college and the rest are worthless. And though it is good to have those early picks, seems to me they are not always chosen well. Baseball history has a significant list of failed top picks, doesn’t it? I would say don’t let another aspect of baseball become a chance for the rich to become richer—the rich do just fine, as long as they are smart and savvy—and lucky, just like any other team out there drafting players.

"We praise or blame as one or the other affords more opportunity for exhibiting our power of judgment." Friedrich Nietzsche, "All Too Human" (1878)

by wgarrett on Jun 9, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

If you don't care about parity and want only the large market teams to succeed, this would be a great plan

The large market teams would be able to outbid the small market teams for all of the best draftees, quickly starving them and killing them off. If you’d like MLB to go down to 12 to 16 teams, this would be a great plan. Of course that would effectively kill MLB as a national sport, leaving it in the hands of only the largest cities.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Jun 9, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

And yet

I’d argue that until we have an international draft, we’re looking at basically the same situation. We need to either have a total draft or no draft at all.
And don’t overlook Ronster’s point about the luxury tax- let’s expand it to include major and minor league operations, and let’s put in stipulations that all money received from the tax must be spent on those operations. It could take several years and quite a bit of fine tuning (so between the MLB owners and the MLBPA it’d never happen), but I don’t see a reason you couldn’t find an acceptable tax rate to allow the big and the small to compete… Rereading that, I realize that what I’m basically advocating is near total revenue sharing- and I’m ok with that so long as the money doesn’t wind up in some millionaire owner’s pocket.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 10, 2008 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I’d argue that until we have an international draft, we’re looking at basically the same situation. We need to either have a total draft or no draft at all.

It is clear that large market teams have a huge advantage on international free agents. But wouldn’t it just be compounding the problem and making the inequities much, much worse by also making all HS and college players FA’s too? Say bye-bye to parity or any chance for small market teams to compete.
And don’t overlook Ronster’s point about the luxury tax- let’s expand it to include major and minor league operations

Any increase in the luxury tax would only potentially be effective if it was so huge as to make the cash available to spend equal for small market and large market teams. And that kind of massive increase in luxury tax would never happen. The large and even medium market teams would never allow it.

Besides, what is the problem? That teams who are doing well aren’t getting elite talent in the drafts? Isn’t that a good thing? Dont’ we want something in the general vicinity of parity? It’s not like the current draft setup means that large market teams can’t build good minor league systems. The Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers have no shortage of good prospects. In addition to international signings, large market teams can outspend small market teams in bonuses, thus bringing in a lot of signability guys that small market teams can’t afford to draft.

In short, there is no problem here for large market teams that needs to be fixed. They are doing very well, thank you.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Jun 10, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two ideas:

1) I’d love to see a lottery, so that teams like the Rays, Pirates, and Royals don’t get the top picks year after year after year. Put the team’s name in the hat once for every five losses- Now a 100 loss team is more likely to get top spots, but not guaranteed.

2) I’d love to see teams able to trade picks, but only within the draft. No tacking draft picks onto player trades. But, if the Rays have the first pick, and the Yankees are willing to give up picks 28, 44, and 75 (this year’s positions), it let’s the Yankees go after the marquee name while giving the Rays a chance to add 3 strong players to their system.

I think these ideas, especially the second one, would allow each front-office to develop a team specific plan and make draft day (and the days leading up to it) much more exciting for the fans, and make it much more revealing of each F.O.’s preferences and approach.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 10, 2008 1:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Lottery
I’d love to see a lottery, so that teams like the Rays, Pirates, and Royals don’t get the top picks year after year after year.

You might as well just propose contraction of at least the bottom 1/3 of MLB teams. If you want a system where losing small market teams can’t draft and develop their way out of losing, then just contract those teams. And then see how well baseball does as a national sport with many fewer fans nationwide.

This is just my opinion. I could easily be wrong.

by Scott McKinney on Jun 10, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parity is good business

Like the multi teir playoff it reduces the chances of dynasty runs, but it seels a lot of tickets and, I’m sure creats TV ratings.

Don’t look for changes here quickly. Changes to the luxury tax could be a more likely change but I’m not expecting that either.

Anyone think about the British soccer system? When a tean preforms poorly it is “relegated”, or basically sent to AAA. It has to win it’s way back. The result is that there are fewer teams competing for the big title “a manageable number” and there is a second race at the bottom, to avoid relegation.

Baseball is so traditional it will not change for a long time, but I find the idea interesting.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on Jun 10, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Trading picks

is a good idea, and I like Jscape’s idea of limiting it to only the current draft and not being able to trade future picks for current players.

Should be allowed to trade current picks (on draft day) for current players though.

by thejobarules on Jun 11, 2008 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Trading picks

I’d add that baseball should allow for teams to jump up in the draft, or trade down in the draft—like football. Whether through money, or players I think this is a grand idea.

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Jun 11, 2008 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

While I like the trading picks idea, I would have to say the idea of getting rid of the draft is stupid. The draft is one of the only places where good, rich teams don’t have an advantage (and even that advantage is slowly decreasing, as signing bonuses and contract demands skyrocket). Of course, it would benefit the Yankees, but for most of the other teams, all that happens is the rich get richer. Bad teams need high draft picks to build for the future, and this would end that.

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by raisingcain on Jun 11, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Problem is ...

Some teams, notably the Pirates, Royals, Rays, don’t get any better. Sure the Rays are somewhat hot now, but so were the Royals a few seasons back. Ultimately nothing changes and the air leaves the balloon and they crash back to reality, and yet another first or second pick.

I think a lottery system and the ability to trade picks makes sense. Teams with lousy front offices don’t only sell off their talent anyway. Why not give big money teams an opportunity to pry these potential jewels right from the start?

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Jun 16, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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