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Game #81 - New York Yankees @ New York Mets

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 3:34 PM EDT in Game Threads

New York @ New York

NEW YORK YANKEES

Johnny Damon, LF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Álex Rodríguez, 3B
Jason Giambi, 1B
Jorge Posada, C
Robinson Cano, 2B
Melky Cabrera, CF

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
Andy Pettitte	8-5	16	16	0	0	0	0	100.1	111	49	45	10	23	74	4.04	1.34

NEW YORK METS

Jose Reyes, SS
Damion Easley, 2B
David Wright, 3B
Carlos Beltran, CF
Carlos Delgado, 1B
Fernando Tatis, RF
Andy Phillips, LF
Ramon Castro, C

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
Johan Santana	7-6	16	16	0	0	0	0	107.2	103	43	35	14	28	95	2.93	1.22

PREGAME NOTES:

As Amato noted earlier, David Robertson has been promoted to the Bronx. His minor league numbers have always been outstanding and his strikeout totals are impressive.
To make room for Robertson, Kei Igawa was sent packing back to Scranton. Boo-ya!
Chad Jennings reports that Ross Ohlendorf will be placed in the Scranton starting rotation in order to keep him on a set schedule. They would aso like to see him use his developing splitter more often. Keep in mind, though, the Yanks still view Ohlendorf as a reliever.
Bobby Abreu is starting to catch fire hitting .500 (10 for 20) /.583 / .900 over his last 5 games.
Robinson Cano is hitting .444 (8 for 18) / .421 /.889 over his last 4 games.
Andy Pettitte is a lifetime 7-4, 3.48 ERA, 1.23 WHIP in 17 starts against the Mets. He is 3-0, 0.43 ERA, 0.86 WHIP over his last 3 starts and has essentially lowered his ERA a full run during that span (4.99 to 4.04).
Johan Santana is a lifetime 4-0, 2.98 ERA, 1.24 WHIP in 9 games (6 starts) against the Yanks.
Mets' hitters vs. Pettitte can be viewed here. Yanks' hitters vs. Santana can be viewed here.

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The best part

of calling Igawa up and sending him down again?

I guarantee we won’t see him again for at least 10 days.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 3:49 PM EDT 0 recs

Any idea what channel the game is on?

It looks like FOX is broadcasting the Cubs and White Sox.

by bronxbound on Jun 28, 2008 3:52 PM EDT 0 recs

Are you in a blackout area?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

I’m in Jersey.

by bronxbound on Jun 28, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

It's raining

They’re getting the field ready.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ahh thanks. Rain hasn’t gotten here yet.

by bronxbound on Jun 28, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

I haven’t looked yet.
FRAA UZR
2007 -3 -27
2008 -13 -10

FRAA (Fielding Runs Above Average) is a rate stat, so it should stay the same unless Jeter gets better or worse.
UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating) is a counting stat, so we expect the negatives to accumulate as the season progresses.

There are a couple other metrics out there, but they tend to not share their data until after the season.

The games I’ve been at, he’s seemed the same.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not surprisngly...

I’m limited to the Cubs/Sox game. At least Mark Grace is the color man. Always was a big fan of him during his playing days.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 3:58 PM EDT 0 recs

Pete Abe has a few player updates....

Hideki Matsui: The Yankees admitted that surgery was a possibility. "That would be the last option but we can’t rule it out," Brian Cashman said. He had his knee drained again.

Ian Kennedy: Pitching today for Class A Tampa.

Phil Hughes: Two or three weeks away from getting in a game. "He’ll be back this season but I can’t say it’ll be on the major-league level," Cashman said.

Brian Bruney: Throwing a BP on Tuesday. First game will be 2-3 days after that.

Chris Britton: Pitching in a rehab game on Tuesday.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 4:02 PM EDT 0 recs

From the radio broadcast, a couple changes in the rotation:

Rasner Sunday
Moose Monday
Joba Tuesday
Ponson Wednesday/ Giese in the pen

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:02 PM EDT 0 recs

I wonder if Cox isn't too far behind Robertson

because there’s really no need for Hawkins with Giese as the long man again.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

We can hope

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

Despite what Newman said, I think we’ll see Melancon this season.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

Agreed

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

It's raining, thanks...

I’m sling boxing it from a NY friend…Damn black out…

by John Amato on Jun 28, 2008 4:11 PM EDT 0 recs

jscape..

How is Horne and Marquez doing? I know they got hurt…Too bad or they would have been up. And what about Humberto?

by John Amato on Jun 28, 2008 4:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Horne is rounding into shape.
Marquez has been so awful he’s not an option.
Newman said that Humberto will spend most of the season building up arm strength in single A.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up 0 recs

We’d be talking about Horne going to the bullpen if IPK and Hughes weren’t hurt and ineffective.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

Horne's injury set him back quite a bit

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

No doubt

He went more than a month without pitching at all.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

I listened to WFAN for a short time this afternoon

with Sweeny Murti and Jon Heyman co-anchoring for awhile.

I’m a big fan of Sweeny but I think Heyman is full of BS quite often. He still thinks Cashman may very well pull the trigger on a major deal in the next month when all signs clearly point in the opposite direction.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Abreu

was a major deal. I don’t see a guy like that out there, but I think Cash is one of the best traders in the game, so we’ll see soon.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

It was a major deal

because he was a big name. But that was also a salary dump and the Yanks gave up virtually nothing in return.

That clearly wouldn’t be the case with Sabathia.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Agreed

Cashman seems very good at reading the market, figuring out what other teams will offer, and not offering too much.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

I am always surprised by what

GMs do. Abreu was a salary dump, and a footnote to the Corey Lidle trade.

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on Jun 28, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

I am excited to see Robertson

I hope he gets in a game soon. Remember Britton coming and going without pitching

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on Jun 28, 2008 4:25 PM EDT 0 recs

Robertson is skinny. He’ll get a shot.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

So yoou expect ponson to not get much shot?

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on Jun 28, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

Starters are different

Being fat makes a starter ‘durable’.

And believe me, Ponson will be gone very soon.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm excited to see Robertson too.

I love all the prospects getting a chance.

http://www.yankeesdaily.com/

YankeesDaily

by YankeesDaily on Jun 28, 2008 4:36 PM EDT 0 recs

Do you cover the Yankees every day? :)

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

So we've seen

Jeter start 60 games this season- do we think his offseason workouts have improved his range?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 4:51 PM EDT 0 recs

Do the ratings which made you so critical look different?

He looks the same to me.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on Jun 28, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

I haven’t looked yet.
FRAA UZR
2007 -3 -27
2008 -13 -10

There are a couple other metrics out there, but they tend to not share their data until after the season.

The games I’ve been at, he’s seemed the same.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Sorry, I have to add my redundant complaint of

Buck and McCarver. Frankly, I’d rather listen to a jack hammer hitting the pavement.

by bronxbound on Jun 28, 2008 5:14 PM EDT 0 recs

Turn on the radio

That’s what I hear when Sterling talks.

Actually, the stadium “ambiance” is so loud that it has drowned out Sterling during a couple different inane anecdotes. It’s so nice I’ve emailed the Yankees to ask if they’d consider putting a loudspeaker in the booth at the Stadium.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Wish I could, I don’t have an AM antenna. I could take a trip to radio shack though. Hmmm

by bronxbound on Jun 28, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

I have no problem with Buck

but I’m with you on McCarver.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Good to see Abreu hanging in there against Santana

He’s definitely coming out of his funk. He hadn’t been taking pitches this season like he normally does.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 5:20 PM EDT 0 recs

Santana's next pitch will be 70.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:29 PM EDT 0 recs

and 27 this inning.

A very high stress inning, even for 2 runs and a man on second.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

Damn it Robbie

He’s thrown 4+ pitches to 4 of 5 hitters, and you swing at the first pitch?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:32 PM EDT 0 recs

Well....

at least everyone else worked Santana hard that inning. Can’t expect Cano to do the same.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

I just wish

we had the flexibility to sit him and Melky for a pair of games.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

Absolutely....

I’ve wanted some competition for Melky for awhile, but I’d like to see it happen with Cano too. Problem with that is there are no options in the minors to give Cano a push.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

Gotcha!

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 5:58 PM EDT 0 recs

That was HUGE

Because Wright has always killed Pettitte. I’d rather see him leadoff the next inning.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

Run A-Rod run!!!!

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:07 PM EDT 0 recs

bad idea

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

Wow

When was the last time you saw a balk called?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:09 PM EDT 0 recs

No matter what happens now

at least Santana is gone after this inning

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:14 PM EDT 0 recs

I never doubted Robbie

I certainly wasn’t sitting here wishing that anyone else in the lineup was at the plate.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:16 PM EDT 0 recs

Here's another reason why I'd rather have Gardner in the lineup

It would be nice to have a #9 hitter (or #8 in NL yards) who consistently takes pitches instead of having two hitters at the bottom of the order who don’t.

At least having Gardner would offset that.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

But

Girardi would probably bat him leadoff, cause all speedy centerfielders bat leadoff.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not with Damon in the lineup

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

True

Damon won’t get as many days off with Matsui on the DL.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

Thankfully

that’s the end of Santana.

Unfortunately, it’s probably the end of Pettitte.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:20 PM EDT 0 recs

This delay definitely helps the Mets

Santana was coming out anyways and Pettitte’s pitch count was still in good shape at 73.

No way does Robertson enter this game unless it gets out of hand.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

as in 'out of hand' for either team

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm not sure about that

6
7 Farnsworth
8 Veras
9 Rivera

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

Girardi isn't going to have the kid make his debut

against the heart of the order in a 2-run game against the Mets. Too much pressure to put on him in his debut.

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well

I think Mexican sounds good tonight. I’ll catch you guys after the delay.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jun 28, 2008 6:27 PM EDT 0 recs

i know its a little late

but i was trying to figure out yesterday what was more embarrassing:
A) giving up 9 RBI to carlos delgado
B) getting shutout for six innings by sidney ponson

as ridiculous as it sounds, i think with the way this season has gone so far, option A wins.

Ewing with the step...YES! and the foul!

by Anthony Masons Haircut on Jun 28, 2008 6:48 PM EDT 0 recs

Very surpried Pettitte is back out there

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 7:12 PM EDT 0 recs

It's a good thing Pettitte faced Wright with the bases empty

by anaconda on Jun 28, 2008 7:19 PM EDT 0 recs

this has been a strange series...

delgado’s record day, ponson’s solid start, now farnsworth not only throws a scoreless 8th to protect a one run lead but he doesn’t even allow a base-runner.

what’s next? andy phillips walk-off HR?

by Clutch like Leyritz on Jun 28, 2008 7:58 PM EDT 0 recs