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Joe Posnanski said he'd do it. NoMaas would do it.
And if Hideki Matsui's knees aren't ready to go, I think I'd do it too.
Sure, it doesn't do anything to help our lefty-heavy lineup. But he hit .265/.470/.521 against lefties last season- and he was even better against righties.
He would lead the team in OBP and be third in SLG.
He'd want Sunday's off, but with all the talent on the Yankees, wouldn't that be a good thing? If you've got a guy who wants to be a part-time player, doesn't that make shuffling the rest of the guys easier?
And, frankly, how else can we legitimately improve this $209,081,577 machine?
It's sure not by paying Sidney Ponson- a man who collects DWIs at night after spending the day beating up judges on the beach.
Sure, people will wax poetic about Hank Aaron, class, cheaters, despoiling the game, blah blah blah.
I want to win. I decided this many years ago- my brother and I were playing Snakes and Ladders, and he made it safely to the top of the board first. He was so damn happy. And I said to myself- I will take any steps necessary to achieve such joy in all my endeavors. Maybe not quite in those words; I'm not sure I understood the proper use of the definite adjective at seven, but I'm sure I said something close.
And who are we to act as though we don't use any mean necessary to win?
Jason Giambi is still on the team, and he was on the cover of Game of Shadows, too.
We spend more money than everybody else at every level of the game- the draft, international signings, the major league roster.
And there are still hundreds of professional players on steroids- some of them already in the clubhouse.
As for the people who say, "I'd be done with the Yankees" or "He'd cheapen a championship" I call your bluff. If you didn't stop watching when Jason Giambi and Gary Sheffield were indicted by the same federal investigation, you can't be righteous now. Did it cheapen the Marlins' 2003 championship when Urbina was thrown in jail and Pudge showed up to the Tigers magically 30 pounds skinnier? You want to tell me that somewhere between Ortiz, Mueller, Millar, Schilling, and Roberts there wasn't a single member of the 2004 Sox juicing? Come on- what do you think Clemens famous "pep talk" to Schilling was? When Clemens and Pettitte pitched Houston to their first pennant the town was ecstatic- anybody over there wishing it had never happened? The 2006 Cardinals? Please- led by Tony LaRusso, a drunk-driver himself and the biggest steroid enabler in the game today. Oh, and if you believe the Mitchell Report *snicker* mid-season acquisition Eric Gagne was the only player with ties to 'roids.
It's not really about believing our guys are any more honest than anyone else- it's about knowing that there are cheaters in every clubhouse.
So I'd take him up on his offer and sign him the major league minimum. And I'd tell him that he's on his best behavior. If he doesn't hit the way he's supposed to, or he is disrespectful to the media, or he punches the second baseman, he's gone.
Because when you're paying someone the major league minimum, you have that option. (Frankly, I thought we had that option even if you're paying, say, LaTroy Hawkins a couple million bucks, but what do I know?).
And if he signs with us, I will refer to him exclusively as Lamar, because if he's a Yankee that means we're friends.
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I don't believe you
You can’t even bear to write his name.
Not in million years would I sign him. If your rational is that, well, we signed Ponson, and he’s a crappy guy as well, I think that’s where the flaw is. We shouldn’t have signed Ponson. Nobody’s really rooting for Giambi, either. That’s why all the excitement surrounding the Yankees these days is with the guys on the farm.
I always feel pressure. What I don't have is fear. -- El Duque
by LateInningRelief on Jun 27, 2008 10:39 AM EDT 0 recs
I like Giambi
and I can’t be the only one.
If Hank’s dad was still around, he would do this in a second. He did something very similar when he signed Strawberry out of the Independent league way back when.
I don’t see Cash going for it, but I’d welcome Bonds. With Arod, Jeter, Mo et al, this would be the one clubhouse in baseball where he would not be the king. And it’s hard to discern facts from fiction when it comes to Arod, but he and Barry seem pretty tight.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jun 27, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
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While he's at it ...
Sign Pete Rose too. I’ve heard he and Arod are text-mates.
Seriously, Bonds? He brings more baggage to a team than Louis Vuitton!
What. Do we need a secondary freakshow to put fannies in the seats? Is King George not selling out the hallowed house of Ruth? Last time I checked he was. So why would we want, or need to introduce to the team someone that is most certainly going to disrupt team chemistry with his chemically altered presence?
And this says nothing to his diminished skills. We wouldn’t be getting the Flintstone-headed, steroid beast who blasted 900 homers, or stole 2000 bases of a few seasons ago. We’d be getting the Stay-Puffed marshmallow version with creaky knees, sore shoulders, and a bruised ego.
Stay away … stay far, far away.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on
Jun 27, 2008 11:21 AM EDT
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That's the thing
I think this is the one place where he wouldn’t disrupt team chemistry.
And I think you’d get Giambi level production from him once he got into shape. I’d take that.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jun 27, 2008 11:23 AM EDT
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I agree that the old Boss would jump at the chance to sign Bonds
But I don’t think Cashman is going to bite. Obviously, a lot has changed since the days King George ran this team.
The move makes sense on a pure baseball standpoint, but I’m not sure he’s worth the headaches and baggage that comes with his signing.
If it were my call, I probably wouldn’t do it either.
by anaconda on
Jun 27, 2008 11:30 AM EDT
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He wouldn't disrupt the team?
How do you figure. He’d bring a bigger entourage than Mike Tyson in his hey-day, are you kidding? And that doesn’t even include the press! He’d be a disruption without even trying.
As for putting up Giambi numbers … I think you’re dreaming. You said something key … “once he got into shape”. Just for the sake of argument, how long do you think that would take. Considering his age 43, I’m guessing it would take a minimum of spring training plus two/three weeks of extended spring. That’s 3 months by my count, and we’re already done with June. Great, we get him for the two weeks of September—maybe?
None of this works.
If we need lefty power so bad, go after Griffey.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on
Jun 27, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
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This team
is used to media circuses, and this clubhouse is the one clubhouse that holds bigger starts in it than him.
He wouldn’t be just another player, but he wouldn’t be the king either. I’m sure the players wouldn’t be thrilled about all the questions leading up to his first game, but once that was overwith it would be fine.
The team’s current star and media magnet (Arod) gets along with him quite well, so no, I don’t think he would disrupt the team.
It would probably take a few weeks to get game ready, but he’d be getting on base from day one.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jun 27, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
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Generally you ...
are spot on, but not in this case… Even if the distractions weren’t disastrous, the hammies would get him—especially in your “few weeks” scenerio.
Not sure how old you are, but trust me, when you hit 43, 44, the body isn’t so forgiving.
Again, if we need a big lefty bat, grab Griffey, or Dunn… Both are available.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on
Jun 27, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
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Yeah
I should have been clearer – I’m not dying to sign him, but I wouldn’t be against it.
I like it because as Jscape said there’s no risk at all involved. Griffey and Dunn would both cost young players. Bonds wouldn’t.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jun 27, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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To play Devil's Advocate here
Griffey will never accept a trade to the Yanks. He still hasn’t gotten over the whole Billy and George thing keeping hm out of the clubhouse as a kid when they lost a game.
Secondly, I kind of feel the same way about Dunn that Riccardi does.
Whether you like him or not (and I certainly don’t), Bonds would bring an intense fear factor that nobody else available on the market can.
by anaconda on
Jun 27, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
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I don't think so. Not anymore
When some pitcher blazes a 96mph heater up and in on Bonds, and he can’t turn it around, it’s the end of the “fear factor” that you are talking about. He may not cost the Yankees much, but signing Bonds wouldn’t strike fear into the hearts of AL pitchers.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on
Jun 27, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
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We won't know that
until we sign him.
This is about low risk, high reward. Give him 2-3 weeks to get in shape (don’t hitters usually say they only need 40 or 50 ABs to be ready in the spring?), then 2 weeks as DH. If he’s not hitting .250/.350/.400 by then, cut him.
Otherwise, MLB ready to be prepared to pay him millions in an anti-collusion suit.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 27, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
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Sigh ...
I just don’t like Barry Bonds.
"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will
by Ronster22 on
Jun 30, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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