Game #78 - New York Yankees @ Pittsburgh Pirates
New York Yankees @ Pittsburgh Pirates
NEW YORK YANKEES

Melky Cabrera, CF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Álex Rodríguez, 3B
Jason Giambi, 1B
Jorge Posada, C
Robinson Cano, 2B
Justin Christian, LF
PITTSBURGH PIRATES

Nyjer Morgan, RF
Freddy Sanchez, 2B
Nate McLouth, CF
Ryan Doumit, C
Jason Bay, LF
Adam LaRoche, 1B
Jose Bautista, 3B
Jack Wilson, SS
PREGAME NOTES:
- Joe Girardi officially announced that Sidney Ponson will pitch Game 2 of Friday's double-header against the Mets. Yuck.
- Both Johnny Damon (foot) and Hideki Matsui (knee) remain out of the lineup and probably won't see any action in this series.
- Bobby Abreu is a horrific 2-for-30 with RISP in the month of June.
- Joba Chamberlain has never faced the Pirates. He is 0-0, 2.45 ERA, 1.53 WHIP in 4 starts since his conversion to the rotation.
- Zach Duke has never faced the Yanks. He is 4-2, 3.18 ERA, 1.45 WHIP in 8 starts at home this season.
- Pirates' hitters vs. Chamberlain can be viewed here. Yanks' hitters vs. Duke can be viewed here.
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No Matsui nor Damon.
No Gardner.
Ponson, not Karstens or McCutchen, confirmed to start Friday at Shea against Pedro.
grumble grumble…
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jun 25, 2008 6:48 PM EDT 0 recs
So Jscape
Who does McCutchen remind you of MLB player wise?
by MedFan on
Jun 25, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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No clue
I’ve never seen him pitch.
But I have seen Ponson pitch…
The scouting reports I’ve seen on McCutchen (fastball, curve, change), and everything I’ve read about him makes me think he can be an effective option.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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Ponson
Not a coincidence that he gets the start at Shea. The home crowd would have no patience for his fat ass.
If I’m Karstens I’m really annoyed by this decision. He would have either made the team or been the last man sent down if he didn’t get hurt in the spring, and now, after he was the pitcher of the week in his league, they give a spot start to an eight time (estimate) loser who has flushed every opportunity he’s been given right down the toilet. I have no doubt Sidney will suck on Friday, and even if he doesn’t, he’s an ass who I don’t want anywhere near the team.
Karstens is not a major league full-time starting pitcher, and there’s at least a decent chance he would have gotten bombed on Friday. But he earned this chance to pitch, especially considering who they opted to give the ball to. Karstens has to to be wondering if he’ll ever get another shot. The younger guys are getting closer to ready, and Giese and Rasner would both have to fall apart soon for it to happen.
Oh well.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on
Jun 25, 2008 9:22 PM EDT
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Hmm
Jeter’s been swinging well, hasn’t he?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jun 25, 2008 7:06 PM EDT 0 recs
Kay says the CF couldn't ketchup to the ball
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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Is it ketchup
or mustard Kay doesn’t eat?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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I wish he'd eat
and not talk with his mouth full
Arod did that
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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the joke is, Jete's ball
hit a Hienz ad on the wall
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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Ah
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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They say
speed creates errors…
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Jun 25, 2008 7:12 PM EDT 0 recs
And hard slides
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Oh
I was thinking about Giambi…
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Ok Joba
that should be enough runs
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Jun 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Another walk for Gardner to lead off the game for Scranton
Sure would be nice to see him in that Yankee lineup.
by anaconda on Jun 25, 2008 7:20 PM EDT 0 recs
He'll get a chance
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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I hope he is everything advertised Gardner that is.....
Is he a Grady Sizemore type?
by MedFan on
Jun 25, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Definitely not...
He doesn’t have that kind of power. More of a Juan Pierre or Brett Butler type.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:23 PM EDT
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Ok either way he is good at getting on base Anaconda?
by MedFan on
Jun 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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Yep
His eye is his great strength.
And that’s what makes it so hard to evaluate him- we don’t know if he can hit enough to overcome MLB pitchers’ better command.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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Yeah, he's an OPB guy
He’s basically a slap hitter who does take a lot of walks. Big stolen base guy.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
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Let's hope
Girardi and Cashman have this thing for Melky like Torre had for Proctor.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
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Melky is playing too well
totr a rookie. The chance will come via injury or Sept call up.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT
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* to try
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
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Playing too well?
I couldn’t possibly disagree more with that comment. I think he’s been absolutely terrible this season.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
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that's why they have horse races
I think the Yanks agree with me
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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I agree with Anaconda
With Damon injured and Matsui hobbling around why not bring Gardner up and see what he can do? What about Austin Jackson?
by MedFan on
Jun 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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Jackson is still at least
a year away. He’s doing ok at AA .280/.366/.439, but it’s he’s only got 300 ABs out of single A; there’s no way he’s skipping a level.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
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What was Bernie hitting
When they called up Melky?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
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Let's face it....
Melky got his chance to play every day because Matsui and Sheffield went down for most of the 2006 season.
He is out there every day primarily because of his defense. His production at the plate is secondary.
Even Cashman said during ST that Melky needs to keep producing to keep his CF job. So far, in my opinion, he’s not earning his spot.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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No
They called Melky up to be an everyday player in 2005 and benched Bernie. Melky allowed that inside the park homer in Boston and was promptly sent back down. But he had a chance in 2005 because Bernie was struggling.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
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But he was sent down after that
He didn’t become the every day starter until Matsui and Sheffield went down.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:36 PM EDT
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he's taking better routes to the ball
this year
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:39 PM EDT
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Gardner is a good defender himself
And he would be an upgrade at the plate because he gets on base considerably more than Melky.
Combine that with all the stolen bases and he becomes a more productive player than Melky.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
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But Bernie was hitting
.244 .326 .356 on July 7th when Melky was called up to take his place.
They gave Melky a shot to replace a former Gold Glover and fan favorite.
No reason to think they won’t give Gardner the same shot.
You’re right they’ll tolerate less offense for the defense, but we’ll see how long.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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I'm not disputing that he was called up in 2005
My point is simply that he became the every day starter and has remained there because of injuries to 2/3 of the Yankee outfield in 2006.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:43 PM EDT
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QAnd Bernie's defense had become awful
Specially his arm. As bad as Damon.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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I'm sorry
My “no” was meant to be to cbeck’s arguement that Melky’s playing too well to try a rookie.
That’s what I’ve been arguing.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT
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We have no idea if Gardner can hit Bl pitching
and we could set him back by bringing him too soon
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT
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You don't know if you don't give him the chance
He’s ready for the bigs.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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How would he be set back
from getting MLB ABs?
I’ll buy they don’t want him on the bench- but is he really gaining that much hitting AAA pitching?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:54 PM EDT
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Bobby
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Jun 25, 2008 7:39 PM EDT 0 recs
That's my boy
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
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BTW....
Alfredo Aceves will make his first start for Scranton on Saturday. I bet we see him in the Bronx not long after the ASB.
by anaconda on Jun 25, 2008 7:53 PM EDT 0 recs
I'll take that bet
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:55 PM EDT
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Me too
Not likely.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on
Jun 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT
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Cashman himself said that he needs a few starts in Scranton
and if he does well, he’s a likely choice. I must admit, I forgot where I read that – but that’s what he said.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 7:58 PM EDT
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I expect Kennedy, Rasner, Giese and Ponsone
And maybe Karstens to get a shot before AA. Isee him as a September call up
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT
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and hughes
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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Hughes won't be ready for at least six weeks
Ponson probably won’t be around that long.
Kennedy will be in the mix in a few weeks.
Rasner is going in a tailspin, but will probably be around for a few more starts.
Karstens will get a shot if he’s healthy.
Giese is just a spot starter.
Unless he suffers an injury, I guarantee you that Aceves will get an opportunity before September.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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Nice bunt
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Jun 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT 0 recs
I watched a lot of Cubs' games growing up because of WGN
And Tony Pena was an assassin behind the plate. He was Ivan Rodriguez before Ivan Rodriguez.
by anaconda on Jun 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Wow!
...while growing up? Man, now I know I’m streching the envelope. Did anyone here see Craig Nettles play?
by whollycow on
Jun 25, 2008 8:19 PM EDT
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I saw Andy Carey
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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I saw Nettles play more in SD than I did with the Yanks
I’m 34 years old, so my baseball viewing stretches back to the early 80s.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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He's pitching in Trenton right now
And having a decent season if I remember correctly.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 8:18 PM EDT
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trade bait
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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I don't really think he's part of their plans
He is having a pretty good season. He’s on the DL right now, though.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Oh no
We agree?
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 8:22 PM EDT
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Yeah...
I think someone kidnapped you because we used to agree on most everything last season.
This season – not so much.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
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64 pitches for 4
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on Jun 25, 2008 8:21 PM EDT 0 recs
What's the Deal
...with Pavano? I heard something to the effect he’s preping to return?
by whollycow on Jun 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT 0 recs
I suppose anythings possible
but I’m betting against it. He’s so out with the brass.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 8:28 PM EDT
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2 in a row, lol
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
by Cbeck3 on
Jun 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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No Great
...shakes for me, but that’s the rumour. I’d really wish Cashman would go for Sabathia. I know I’ll gey hammered for this.
by whollycow on Jun 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT 0 recs
If they get him....
it won’t be until the offseason. I don’t think Cashman wants to pay for him twice.
by anaconda on
Jun 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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I hope they try to get Bronson Arroyo. We can buy low, and if it doesn’t work out, no big loss. One of the few ideas Mike Francesa has come up with that I agree on.
by bronxbound on
Jun 25, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
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Not a big fan of Arroyo myself
Last night’s game certainly didn’t help change my mind.
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Jun 25, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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