Game #53 - New York Yankees @ Baltimore Orioles
by anaconda on May 28, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
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NEW YORK YANKEES
Johnny Damon, LF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Álex Rodríguez, 3B
Hideki Matsui, DH
Jason Giambi, 1B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Chad Moeller, C
Melky Cabrera, CF
BALTIMORE ORIOLES
Brian Roberts, 2B
Melvin Mora, 3B
Nick Markakis, RF
Kevin Millar, 1B
Aubrey Huff, DH
Ramon Hernandez, C
Jay Payton, LF
Adam Jones, CF
Alex Cintron, SS
PREGAME NOTES
- Pete Abe reports the most shocking news of the day - Chris Britton has once again returned from Scranton to take Kennedy's place on the roster.
- Pete also notes that Kennedy's MRI revealed bursitis under the scapular, which can be controlled with meds. Kennedy could begin throwing again [for Scranton] in a week.
- Joba Chamberlain is schedule to throw 50-55 pitches tonight and will finish his night in a side session if he doesn't reach that mark in the game.
- Andy Pettitte is a lifetime 23-6, 3.77 ERA, 1.44 WHIP in 35 games (33 starts) against the Yanks, including 1-0, 0.00 ERA, 0.57 WHIP in one start in 2008.
- Jeremy Guthrie is a lifetime 1-0, 4.74 ERA, 1.53 WHIP in 4 games (3 starts) against the Yanks.
- Yankees' career numbers vs. Guthrie can be viewed here. Orioles' career numbers vs. Pettitte can be viewed here.
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Do you know
you have an empty bullet?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
nice start
hello gang
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
No doubt about it
We gotta cut Giambi. He can’t hit anymore!
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
I think Melky has improved
the routes he takes to those balls.
I am glad he’s out there!
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
I hadn't heard that tidbit about Jeter until now
Last night was the first time in 10 years that he got picked off 2nd base.
I'm of the opinion
that he’s among the best (if not the best) baserunner in baseball. He’s got a great SB%, runs aggressively first to third and second to home, but rarely gets thrown out.
But that sounds like semantic thing- if the runner starts toward second it’s a CS not a pickoff.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
No doubt about it
Jeter is probably the best Yankee base runner they’ve had in a long, long time. His pal, Jorge Posada, is another story.
come on Joba
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
He settled down
nicely. 28 pitches. Do you put Mo in, and send Joba back to the pen to finish throwing like a Spring Training game?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Mo
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
unless we tack on
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
Joba
This doesn’t make any sense to me.
I get that in order to become a starter he has to build up his arm strength and slowly raise his pitch counts per outing.
But the other part to preparing to be a starter, and to me its a big part, is changing your approach. Right now Joba is still pitching like a relief pitcher. Other than making him a bit stronger, a night like tonight does zero to help him transition to a starter. He’s just using his two best pitches to protect a one run lead – as he should.
This alleged “plan” is so screwy I don’t know what the solution is, but this is completely retarded to me. We’re losing the ability to use him a few times a week to nail down games and we’re not helping him become a starter all that much.
Once he got to this point – where he could throw 50 pitches, it no longer makes sense to use him at the end of a game. I would have let him pitch the first three innings of a game Rasner was due to start. That way he could face a few hitters twice, use all his pitches, etc…..
I’ll stop rambling now.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on May 28, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not Rasner's game!
Kennedy’s. He’s hurt anyway
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
Except
IPK cried like Mussina when he came out of the pen during that rain game in Kansas City. He clearly was affected by it. Rasner is better suited for it.
You let Joba start a game and throw until he hits his pitch count. If its the middle of an inning you let Hawkins or whoever finish off the inning. Then Rasner starts off a clean inning and goes however long he can.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Kennedy doesn't come out of the pen
He’s hurt
We need a spot start
Give it to Joba, let the pen finish
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
You lost me.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
Ian P Kennedy is on the DL
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
Gotcha
You’re talking about the next Joba appearance, I was talking about this one.
Problem with using Joba to start a game as though he were in the rotation is that there would be no long reliever to come in for him if he hits his ceiling early (I’m about done with Ohlendorf for a while). I think they would need to make a roster move and have a long reliever from Scranton available.
Joba throwing pitches in the bullpen is STUPID. Worst. plan. ever.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
I understand what you're saying
I’ll go through some other Yankee starts and see if I can find some examples of similar pitch selection…
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
Let me shock you for a second...
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don’t think they are approaching this the right way. He’s airing it out on those fastballs and not pacing himself.
And, like you said, he’s not using his curve ball or change – which is supposed to be a big part of this process.
I want to see Joba as a starter as much as anyone. But I don’t think they are doing this the right way.
It might be better if someone like Rasner to come out of the pen after Joba pitches the first 3 or 4 IP.
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