New York Yankees @ Tampa Bay Rays GameThread, May 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT

Game #39 - New York Yankees @ Tampa Bay Rays

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 6:34 PM EDT in Game Threads Comment 46 comments

New York Yankees at Tampa Bay Rays, May 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT

NEW YORK YANKEES

Johnny Damon, LF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Hideki Matsui, DH
Jason Giambi, 1B
Melky Cabrera, CF
Robinson Cano, 2B
Jose Molina, C
Alberto Gonzalez, 3B

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
Andy Pettitte	3-3	7	7	0	0	0	0	43.0	46	21	18	6	12	26	3.77	1.35

TAMPA BAY RAYS

Akinori Iwamura, 2B
Carl Crawford, LF
B.J. Upton, CF
Carlos Pena, 1B
Evan Longoria, 3B
Jonny Ghomes, DH
Dioner Navarro, C
Eric Hinske, RF
Jason Bartlett, SS

	W-L	G	GS	CG	SHO	SV	BS	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	K	ERA	WHIP
Matt Garza	1-1	5	5	0	0	0	0	25.2	26	14	14	3	13	11	4.91	1.52

PREGAME NOTES:

Ian Kennedy pitched his one inning for Scranton this afternoon and is already out of the game (His line: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER -- 12 pitches, 7 strikes). Kennedy is now slated to return to the rotation on Thursday against Tampa, contrary to the initial erroneous report by one George King.
Pete Abe reports that A-Rod's MRI has revealed that his quad injury is not healed enough to start playing rehab games. He will not be activated this week and is officially OUT for the Mets' series. Okay, that sucks.
The Yankee bullpen has been outstanding of late compiling a 1.05 ERA with an 0.70 WHIP over their last 8 games (25.2 IP, 11 H, 3 ER, 7 BB, 17 K). Keep in mind all three runs were given up by Joba Chamberlain with one swing of the bat by David Dellucci last Monday night.
Andy Pettitte is a lifetime 14-3, 3.62 ERA, 1.44 WHIP in 23 games (22 starts) against the Rays. He is 1-1, 4.50 ERA, 1.83 WHIP in 2 starts against them in 2008.
Matt Garza is a lifetime 0-1, 6.75 ERA, 1.95 WHIP in 2 games (one start) against the Yanks.
Yanks career numbers vs. Garza can be viewed here. Rays career numbers vs. Pettitte can be viewed here.

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The Rays swept the Angels?

Really? That happened?

"Here, if you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There it is, that's a straw, you see? You watching?. And my straw reaches acroooooooss the room, and starts to drink your milkshake... I... drink... your... milkshake!"-Daniel Plainview

by yankee come lately on May 12, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

looks like the ump is

giving the pitcher quite a bit off the plate.

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

swing the bat

the Ump’s got dinner plans

by yankee come lately on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How different would Kennedy's

starts have been if he were given those extra couple inches on either side of the plate

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

huge

it’s almost like the Ump’s have decided the Yank youth movement has to earn their corners, as stupid as that is.

by yankee come lately on May 12, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Were any of the stadiums that IPK

started in questech (sp?) parks?

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good question

no idea

by yankee come lately on May 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

a search on mlb.com

returns zero hits for Ques Tech or Questech

by yankee come lately on May 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

For a while

it seemed like the announcers were talking about it every day. I haven’t heard them mention it much lately. Is it just that I am missing Leiter’s days?

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yankee Stadium

is definitely a questech stadium.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 12, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pettitte looking sharp

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

also if we thought we were having offensive problems

the rays number 4 hitter is hitting .200 5 hitter .211 and 6 hitter .209

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Longoria saved a double

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good arm

accurate one-hop throw from his knees

by yankee come lately on May 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Garza

Haven’t seen much of Garza, but for tonight anyway, he seems to have the type of fastball we were led to believe Phil Hughes has.

Garza hasn’t topped 94 tonight (and has mostly lived between 88-92), but the ball seems to get on the hitters quicker than that, because they are taking some weak hacks.

He is also locating it well, another abiltiy Hughes has only shown intermittently.

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on May 12, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lol maybe we should break your rib,

and then see how well you locate your pitches?

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha

I’m talking about last year too, and spring training this year.

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on May 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Retracted

He showed it during spring training.

Last year post hamstring he lost it, then he lost it again after spring training this year.

Did he ever say when he first felt the rib injury?

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on May 12, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thats what I was going to say

I think he started throwing harder just to reach the same velocity, and that meant he lost some of his late movement.

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

it’s Garza’s delivery, but his fastball just looks faster than the gun says it is.

I remember Giambi commenting after he faced Hughes in BP how quickly his fastball gets on top of you, and Phil – for various reasons – has only brought that pitch to the game mound a couple of times so far.

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on May 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

He brought that with him against Toronto in his first start and against the ChiSox when he was taken out after the rain delay.

That’s been it.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the Attorney General strikes again!

by yankee come lately on May 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

For whatever reason...

Ghomes kills Pettitte.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't like to see Andy out of the ballgame this early

but I am glad to see britton in the game. Hope he pitches well.

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on May 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wouldn't it be nice to have a clutch young catcher to fill in for jorge

Cano is a Pimp

by yankeechaser on May 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Molina is a jewel of a backup.

He is a great catch and throw guy.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

but if we would have kept Navarro, we would have a promising young guy just starting to reach his prime at the same time Jorge is slowing down and needing more days off.

Cano is a Pimp

by yankeechaser on May 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He'd better be "clutch"

because his lines the last three years have been: .273/.354/.375; .254/.332/.354; .227/.286/.356/.

He’s 60 ABs into 2008, but I’ll bet he finished the year with an OPS+ around 80.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Igawa warming

I guess Joe’s ready to surrender

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on May 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ken Rosenthal

I read on another board that Rosenthal supposedly said on the FOX broadcast Saturday that the Yanks and Cubs were quietly talking about a Matsui for Ted Lilly deal.

I couldn’t watch the game because it was blacked out so can anyone confirm they heard this?

I don’t think there is an ounce of truth to that rumor. I know they’re kinda desperate for starting pitching, but that would be a moronic trade for the Yanks in every way. I want no part of Ted Lilly on this team.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It depends on Money

and if there is a prospect or two involved. I could be talked into it.

But the Cubs have Soriano, Pie, and Fukudome. I assume Pie would go down; who would play center?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 12, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I couldn't be talked into it

Lilly has 2 more years remaining on his deal after this season. I don’t want to see anymore dead weight in the rotation.

I’d much rather keep Matsui.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh and

while I haven’t seen Lily pitch, so I don’t know if his velocity is back where it belongs, he’s been solid the last month- 35 baserunners in 32IP against 31K.

The thing I wouldn’t want would be Lily’s contract: 7 this year then 12 in 2009 and 2010. Plus he’s got some amount of no-trade, so he’d probably need an extension or extra money or something.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least Buchholz got hammered....

against the Twins (4.1 IP, 8 H, 7 ER, 5 BB, 4 K)

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Regardless of Pettitte's subpar outing

this team can’t win if they don’t score.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Anybody else

as terrified by Tampa Bay’s young pitching as I am?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on May 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me, too

In fact, this whole team scares me.

by docgonzo on May 12, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about Randy Wolf for Matsui?

The Padres are in last place in the West with no offense and a gaping hole in left field.
Wolf is a lefty only signed for this season.
Matsui would be terrible defensively in that big ball park…

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Why trade Matsui?

He’s going to be the everyday DH next season anyways when Giambi is gone. Matsui could also play some RF every now and then at the Stadium. At least he’s not afraid of the wall.

The Yanks do have problems but I don’t think Matsui is one of them.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The offense stinks.

Trading one of the two or maybe three guys who hasn’t stunk doesn’t make any sense.

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on May 12, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The biggest problem

is no A-Rod. But that will be remedied Thursday, if all goes well. I really think he makes all the difference in this lineup.

by docgonzo on May 12, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe I should reconsider writing pregame notes

because I’m wondering how many people read them. A-Rod ain’t coming back this week.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Would you be willing to trade

Damon?

Otherwise the conversation is likely to include some of the young arms that we want to put in the big leagues (which is why we’re after a guy signed for only one year). Also, I’d trade him because he has value for a team like San Diego that is getting less offense than we are.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on May 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re: Damon

I’d be more willing to trade Damon but he has less trade value to another team. In all honesty, I don’t see Matsui or Damon as problems right now.

I’d have to see what kind of talent is available before I choose whether the Yanks should or shouldn’t make specific players available in a deal.

All I can say is that I wouldn’t want Lilly on this team if the Cubs were giving him away. He’s an average pitcher in AL and he’d be blocking the progression and development of one of the kids in 2009 and 2010.

Ted Lilly couldn’t be moved if he doesn’t work out. At least when you have young kids in that role, you can easily move him by sending him down and trying someone else.

People would inevitably talk about Lilly being dead weight the same way they talked about Moose last season.

by anaconda on May 12, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs