Game #24 - New York Yankees @ Cleveland Indians
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 6:45 PM EDT
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New York Yankees at Cleveland Indians, Apr 25, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
NEW YORK YANKEES
Johnny Damon, LF
Derek Jeter, SS
Bobby Abreu, RF
Alex Rodriguez, 3B
Hideki Matsui, DH
Jorge Posada, C
Jason Giambi, 1B
Robinson Cano, 2B
Melky Cabrera, CF
CLEVELAND INDIANS
Grady Sizemore, CF
Jamey Carroll, 2B
Travis Hafner, DH
Victor Martinez, C
Jhonny Peralta, SS
Franklin Gutierrez, RF
Casey Blake, 3B
Jason Michaels, LF
Kelly Shoppach, C
PREGAME NOTES:
Pete Abe reports that Shelley Duncan was not penciled in the Scranton lineup tonight and is headed to Cleveland.
Yanks have won 8 straight regular-season games against the Tribe, including a 6 game sweep of the season series a year ago. Let's not even mention the ALDS or those damn midges.
Andy Pettitte is a lifetime 6-7, 4.50 ERA against the Tribe, including 1-0, 2.45 ERA in one start in 2007.
Paul Byrd is a lifetime 1-4, 4.44 ERA in 8 starts against the Yanks, including 0-3, 8.53 ERA in his last 3 starts. Byrd has not beaten the Yanks during the regular season since June of '99.
Yanks' career numbers vs. Byrd can be viewed here. Tribe career numbers vs. Pettitte can be viewed here.
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What the heck?
Why is white shadow on the yes network not the game? are we in rain delay?
Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.
by Edwantsacracker on Apr 25, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, the game is on local My9 I believe
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do you know these things?
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's not on YES
and it’s Friday night. Last season, a lot of Friday night games were on My9.
I can’t watch the Yanks broadcast, so I’m currently watching it on the Tribe’s local network.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's wrong with the white shadow?
:) I love that kid named Salami.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The question is
Why isn’t the White Shadow on more often? I loved that show when I was a kid. And Salami rocked.
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice defense by Giambi
idiot
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would be happy
if I never saw that midge footage again. And Torre was an idiot. Joba was a rookie. For once I side with Kay. Joba was a kid and Torre was an experienced manager.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I did a lot of screaming and yellling at the TV that night
My neighbors probably thought I had Tourette Syndrome.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously
I thought Torre had to be dead in the dugout to not delay the game. A 4 year old would have known how to manage that with a rookie on the mound and some unbelievable crap descending on the ballpark.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I really hate?
The ESPN commercial with John Kruk “explaining” what happened.
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pasta diving
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As long as Pettitte keeps it close
they should hit Byrd.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Giambi owes us one now.
What was that old line by Stengel about how he hated guys who drove in three runs but let in two with their glove?
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I keep telling myself that Giambi will start hitting sooner or later. But, as soon as he does, he’ll go down with another leg or foot injury.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he might hit himself in the foot
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love
a pitcher who doesn’t lose his cool. That would be you Andy Pettitte.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he heard you.
Much better inning.
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to
see the Rock n Roll Hall of fame but that would mean a trip to Cleveland. And that I couldn’t take.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing about the R&R Hall
I had planned to propose to my [then] girlfriend a couple of years ago at that place. We ended up breaking up a few weeks before the trip.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoever did the breaking up
probably did to get out of going to cleveland.
Have all you guys been to Cooperstown? That would be a great PA off-season field trip.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great town.
I went with an ex once – stayed at a bed and breakfast behind the outfield fence.
That would be a very cool trip.
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, she was the quintessential rock and roll girl and suggested we go to the Hall. She broke it off.
Anyways, never been to Cooperstown. I’ll make it out there one day before I die.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have to go
it’s really a “more than once” place. I haven’t been in a few years. Time to go again soon!
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tonight's lesson from Michael Kay
“They had the same body parts in the 1940s as they have now.”
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, got something stuck in my blowhole
Can you say that again?
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Mike!
This coming from a guy who claims he’s never tasted ketchup.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's simply unAmerican
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is beautiful!
Just the sound of the game – no announcers. Maybe they can keep it like this the rest of the game. Am I the only one not hearing the booth?
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes you are
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's really odd.
It’s fantastic! Maybe it’s a DirecTV thing.
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What channel are you watching?
I’m watching DirecTV as well. I’m getting audio here.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HD issue
I’m watching the HD version of 722 which is 722-1. I tell ya, with a 60 inch screen, this is like heaven!
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like it
where do you live? we’re all coming over. Break out the chips and dip!
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a tough commute for me
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh man up and get in the car!
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not too bad for you
Only an hour 15 or so if traffic is decent
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Palatine, Illinois
So it is a hike but the chips and dip are already out!
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...you're not that far away from me
Merrillville, IN
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly...
I’ve never seen a Yankee game in HD. I do have running water, though.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It horribly spoils a person.
Watching non-HD is really tough.
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've watched exactly one sporting event in HD
It happened to be the Ohio State/Michigan game last November. Unfortunately, my team lost.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It spoils guys
women can watch non HD and not be upset about it. Or have to run out and get HD.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure that's true.
My wife can watch the HD Yankee broadcast 4, sometimes 5 minutes longer than the regular broadcast before she goes to the another TV to watch any crime show with voice-overs by Bill Kurtis.
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea what that means
but most women I know think the HD v. non-HD is a stupid boy thing.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I must sign up for that
the last time I had DirecTv was in 2003 and unfortunately I had sound for the World Series
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't sob then
only 2001 and 2004. Every other year I took it in stride. Those were my two “I’m having a breakdown” years.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god did 2004 hurt
Especially living in Boston…
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've worked for 3 companies in the past 11 years
All of my bosses have been or are huge Sox fans. I can’t wait for the world to be right again.
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought about giving up baseball after 2001
and definitely wanted to give up after 2004
but:
me to baseball: I can’t quit you.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just remember
Last century started out great for the Sox too.
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
go Johnny go go
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damon is really starting to hit
Good things happen for this team when he’s hitting.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Byrd's the type of pitcher he can still abuse
"You play the game to win the game, and not to worry about what's on the back of the baseball card at the end of the year." - Paul O'Neill
by yankee come lately on Apr 25, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now
Kay would like Damon to steal home.
Yes, he’s Jackie Robinson.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They hit Byrd hard that inning
Sizemore just ran down a couple of balls.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kay:
Andy Pettite used to pitch 93-95 mph, now he is pitching 85-87 mph and doing it successfully.
by seanp23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the velocity thing
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shhh!
Don’t let Aroth hear you – he’ll work himself into a froth.
by docgonzo on Apr 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if there's a good thing about froth
it’s that he doesn’t usually show up here during game threads.
He waits until the next day to froth about something completely irrelevant such as why that moron Cashman doesn’t trade Hughes and Kennedy for Lincecum.
It’s like he has days they let him out of the home but they don’t really let him out at night.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oooh a Yankees suck chant
ORIGINAL!
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What's with the swinging at a first pitch thing?
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crap
I can hear Kay and Cone again. All good things must end I guess. Time to put away the dip.
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me?
Anaconda…your boy Giambi is on fire.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at Giambi
dragging his ass towards the Mendoza Line
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Giambi with 4 dingers on the season
2 against Byrd and 2 against Timlin
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops...I'm wrong
Giambi has 5 dingers. And he’s one away from the AL lead. Go figure.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
love the Perry clips
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pettitte's pitch count is getting up there
68 thru 3.2 IP.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If
he makes it through 6.0, who’s coming in for 7-8? Mo’s fine for the 9th, provided we’re still winning close. Joba needs a rest, especially after last night..
by docgonzo on Apr 25, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has to be Albaledejo or Britton
and cross your fingers. Maybe Farnsworth since he says he’s okay. Ewwwww.
No Joba, no Ohlendorf, and no Hawkins.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are Kay and Cone calling for the Indians?
could they stop gushing about them?
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seems like
John Adams (Indians drummer) look was the inspiration for My Name is Earl. Guy really looks like Jason Lee.
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Jason Lee. John Adams and his stupid drum not so much
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll never understand why YES
with all the money and star power they possess – would choose a douchebag like Michael Kay as the face of the network.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like him on the shows
but hate him calling the games. And he had my respect when he completely went non-politically correct or non-neutral and hated on Bonds last year. But games? I can’t STAND IT.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes I'm bummed about Bruney
last year I would not have believed I’d have ever said that.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now they're gushing about Madonna
who is “a true pioneer”
Did I think it was possible to have bad feelings about David Cone?
because I’m starting to.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is she
in the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame anyway? Isn’t there a Hall of Pop in Sausalito or something?
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rock and roll.....
is an extremely broad term.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's amazing how one swing
can change the entire game.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pettitte started that inning
with a 2.18 ERA on the season. It now stands at 3.26 ERA.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shellshocked....
Better get Giambi in the batter box soon…
by mrljdavid on Apr 25, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is there any game where people are not jumping off the top of the building?
it’s going to be a long season this way.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not me....
I’ve said for a month that this team just needs to tread water in April and they’ll be okay.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
must be that midwestern hardiness
good for you
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm usually pretty patient regarding the Yanks
13 consecutive postseason appearances tends to do that. Some people are going to have a miserable season if they hang their hat on every loss.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abaladejo and Britton
I hope the Yanks ordered some extra food for the postgame buffet.
They can’t DFA Traber fast enough. This guy stinks.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on Apr 25, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess he's not much help
if he can’t get lefties out. Or righties for that matter.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna be a long season
without a bullpen.
by docgonzo on Apr 25, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I said this a month ago
The roster as it stands now will not be the same one they have in July or October.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who
are they going to get to fill the gapping void?
by docgonzo on Apr 25, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they can get starters through the sixth
it won’t be that gaping.
there’s a lot of arms ready to come up. I do think we’re going to feel the Bruney absence though none of us predicted him being as good as he was this month
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are many options
on the farm. And I’m still driving the Ohlendorf bandwagon because I think he’ll do a good job once if he gets the opportunity to pitch in non-long man-mop up roles.
At the beginning of the season, I was against having a guy like Rasner or Karstens on the team as the long man. But, it’s obvious now that they need one.
Ohlendorf ain’t that guy. He’s more of a 1-2 IP pitcher.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Options don't sound all that attractive
I don’t like Bruney, but he was probably the 3rd most reliable guy of the 7 guys in the pen. If you pull Joba, then you have Mo, and the next most “reliable” guy is probably (shudder) Farnsworth.
Abadoodoo and Britton aren’t the answer. They’ll soak up innings and they’re better than Hawkins and Traber, but that’s not saying much.
I like Ohlendorf and agree he should pitch shorter stints when he comes back. Other than that, who else is there??? Veras, Patterson, Edwar – I have my doubts.
The Tommy John guys can’t really be expected to help out this year can they? That really seems like wishful thinking from the Joba must start asap camp.
If you put together a depth chart of the current Yankee pen, it’s Mo #1 and Joba #2. The rest seems like a five way tie for fourth. They need a solid #3 at minimum. To me Ohlendorf could be the guy, but Girardi doesn’t seem to think he can do it, or maybe he was just stuck for a guy who could pitch a few innings at a time. They gotta do something though.
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on Apr 25, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think of it this way
How many Yankee fans had ever heard of Joba Chamberlain at this time last season? There are a ton of young arms down there and only one or two have to be effective to help this team.
Also, a guy like Albaladejo doesn’t have to mow down hitters. Eating innings is important too. I think Traber is also on the fast track to a boot in the ass and replaced as well.
by anaconda on Apr 25, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
I think abbadabba will be effective in keeping the lead. I also like Veras and a few other guys. We have OPTIONS this year that we not have last year. And it’s not like we’re falling out of the sky. The AL East standings are practically a 5 way tie.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 26, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least we get a crack at Borowski in the 9th
NAME GP GS W L Sv QS Hld IP H ER HR BB SO K/9 P/GS WHIP ERA
Borowski 5 0 0 2 2 0 0 4.0 7 8 3 4 3 6.75 0.0 2.75 18.00
by Rusty23 on Apr 25, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's hurt I think
Betancourt is the closer tonight
"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death
by matthaggs on Apr 25, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other news
The Soup is the funniest freaking show on TV.
"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel
by bxgrl1 on Apr 25, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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