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Game #21 - New York Yankees @ Chicago White Sox

New York Yankees at Chicago White Sox, Apr 22, 2008 8:11 PM EDT


NEW YORK YANKEES

Johnny Damon,  LF
Derek Jeter,  SS
Bobby Abreu,  RF
Hideki Matsui,  DH
Jorge Posada,  C
Robinson Cano,  2B
Jason Giambi,  1B
Morgan Ensberg,  3B
Melky Cabrera,  CF

 



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
Chien-Ming Wang 3-0 4 4 1 0 0 0 26.0 21 11 11 1 7 13 3.81 1.08

 

CHICAGO WHITE SOX

Nick Swisher,  CF
Orlando Cabrera,  SS
Jim Thome,  DH
Paul Konerko,  1B
Jermaine Dye,  RF
A.J. Pierzynski,  C
Carlos Quentin,  LF
Joe Crede,  3B
Juan Uribe,  SS

 



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
Jose Contreras 1-1 3 3 0 0 0 0 18.2 20 10 9 0 7 10 4.34 1.45


First off, congratulations to C-Rod and A-Rod for the birth of their yet-to-be-named baby girl last night.  Hmmm, two girls?  How is A-Rod going to afford those weddings?

As for tonight's game, as expected, A-Rod is out of the lineup and has been replaced by Morgan Ensberg.  Pete Abe speculates that A-Rod could be back in the lineup as early as Thursday.

Jorge Posada gets the start behind the plate tonight for the first time since April 8th and you can bet your @ss that the ChiSox base runners will test his shoulder right away.  I certainly would.

Jose Contreras is a lifetime 2-4, 3.96 ERA ERA in 6 starts against the Yanks, but has lost his last four starts against them (6.08 ERA, 1.35 WHIP).

Chien-Ming Wang is a lifetime 2-0, 2.57 ERA in 3 starts against the White Sox, including a complete game 5-1 victory on June 6th of last season.

Yanks' career numbers vs. Contreras can be viewed here.  White Sox career numbers vs. Wang can be viewed here.

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I get to listen to Hawk Harrelson for the next three days. Sigh.

As bad as Michael Kay is, he’s Mel Allen by comparison.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Hawk just had a Cone moment...

They [Sox] need to make Wang get it up.”

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm only half paying attention

and I feel like I’ve already heard a lot of jibberish. If you let your hitters swing 3-0, you’ll get a lot more walks? The Red Sox won their division in 2004?

by Jugwine on Apr 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

See that?

Going to the opposite field can only help Giambi’s hitting.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn...

I’ve never seen that in my life. The bat must’ve had a crack in it and broke in half on the swing.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

did you know

that the nickname “the windy city” has nothing to do with the weather?

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Legend has it

that the name came from Chicago once holding the world’s fair and there was so much overblown blather from politicians about it that it was called the “Windy City.”

But the name now does refer to the winds off Lake Michigan.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

+2

but dont you live in chicago? so -1

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

not for living in chicago

but for having an unfair advantage

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, you asked

You didn’t say a Chicagoland native can’t answer the question.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy

It was nice to see Robbie break through

"You play the game to win the game, and not to worry about what's on the back of the baseball card at the end of the year." - Paul O'Neill

by yankee come lately on Apr 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Again

Would have been nicer to see him cross home plate…

by Jugwine on Apr 22, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont dislike Singleton

I just think O’neil is better. Probably because he hasnt been in the booth with Kay as long and doesnt seem to want to do play by play as much.

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Over 100 pitches

We really need to get the offense going.

Get some pressure off the staff.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on Apr 22, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

good match-up for Bobby

needs to come through

"You play the game to win the game, and not to worry about what's on the back of the baseball card at the end of the year." - Paul O'Neill

by yankee come lately on Apr 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

oooooooooooohhh bobby!!

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

that discussion

between O”neil and Cone during Jeters at bat was awesome…...................................as was Bobby’s shot!!!!

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Oneil

was talking about how frustrating it is to get a borderline call 1-0 to make it 1-1 instead of 2-0 and how it affects the at bat and cone sort of gave the counter point. I Like Oneil because he still shows his frustration even in the booth. It was a borderline pitch (probably a strike anyway) but as a hitter Oneil wants that called a ball and wants the count 2-0 and he talked about how much that changes an at bat.

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

As if on cue

"You play the game to win the game, and not to worry about what's on the back of the baseball card at the end of the year." - Paul O'Neill

by yankee come lately on Apr 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Abreu

The ball must be really carrying out to LF because I didn’t think there was a chance that ball was going out.

I thought it was a routine fly ball off the bat.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

you can put it on the board my friend

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best part about it

was the dead silence from the Sox announcers.

(Okay, the four runs were the best part about it, shutting those homers up was a close second)

by Jugwine on Apr 22, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Homer announcers don't bother me because every team has homer announcers

It’s just that these guys just flat out suck and have the most annoying schtick in MLB.

  • Grab some bench!
  • You can put it on the BOOOOAAAAAARRRDD…..
  • That’s a can of corn
  • Duck snort
  • That’s a hang whiff ‘em

It goes on and on….

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank your lucky stars

for michael kay

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know

If I’d go that far. More like choose the lesser of two evils.

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Radio side

Just got home. Had to listen to Ed Farmer and Steve Stone on the radio. I never really had to listen to them before. I’ve always liked Stoney but Ed Farmer..Wow! What a piss-baby. All he does is cry. “Yankees spend money, wah-wah-wah.” Do you know how much they pay this guy? Wah-wah-wah.” “That looked like a strike. Jeter will always get that call.” Ugh.

by Rusty23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Steve Stone

I didn’t know Stone did the ChiSox games. I loved Stone when he was announcing for the Cubs with Harry Caray.

One of the top color men in the business, IMO.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Started this year.

He really does his homework. Excellent analysis. Very weird hearing him do a Sox game though.

by Rusty23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

SBN question-

anybody else getting some weird views on the comments.. every now and then i have to scroll up and down to view a single comment- like it has it’s own scroll bar

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

internet explorer...

it only happens sometimes.. like every fourth comment or so… and it just started happening on sunday.. never happened before that

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

what version of IE?

They’ve been having some problems with IE 6.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.. still on 6

not a huge deal… just a minor annoyance

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...that's why

IE 7 works okay under the new platform.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that with Safari

sometimes, especially on MLB.com’s stat pages. Weird.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Apr 22, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michael kAY:

the yankees have revealed their ultimate plan; Joba Chaberlain is going to become a starter at some point…

Are we the only ones who have been paying attention since last year? How is this news to people?

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Joba

The media did the same thing in March when Joba was moved back to the pen after making a few starts in ST.

Everyone and their mother knew that was the plan back in November of last season but the media reported the move like it was breaking news or something.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its incredible

I dont get it at all. Its like everyone, but those who’s decisions that matter, has this thing up for debate.

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great

The Old Bruney showed up tonight

by docgonzo on Apr 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Dear Brian Bruney

Please, let’s have more of 2008 Bruney and less of 2007 Bruney.

by Jugwine on Apr 22, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

How pathetic is Ozzie Guillen?

Abreu is much worse against lefties but let’s Dotel pitch to him rather than Thornton?

by andyroth on Apr 22, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Why argue it?

I say let him be pathetic, if that’s the result.

by docgonzo on Apr 22, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

if he gets him swinging on a breaking ball that jorge cant handle, can he just step on home plate rather than throw down to first?

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

No...

the hitter can’t run with a man on 1B.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

with 2 out he can

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to be that guy

But here we go again.

The best word to use for Bruney is “unreliable”. I don’t think anyone says “whew” when he enters a game.

Farnsworth stinks most of the time, not that he did anything wrong tonight besides occupy a roster spot.

How does Girardi not know this? Why does he keep trusting these guys? If you believe Hank and Cash he is gonna have one less safety valve later this summer. He really should be using this time to audition new people to get late inning big outs. The Yanks are gonna need another “whew” guy.

I’d like to see him give Ohlendorf a shot in these spots.

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on Apr 22, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

cart before the horse

All this is irrelevant if its 10-2 in the 7th because the starter stinks.

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chickens and eggs....

we can go around and around on this one.

by mrljdavid on Apr 22, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're missing the point.

There are going to be games like this when Joba leaves the bullpen.

Bruney has pretty much proven he cannot be trusted. Ditto Farnsworth.

While he does have the big safety valve in Joba, Girardi should be trying out other people for the role.

Bruney and Farns have more than proven they cannot handle the job on anything close to a consistent basis. Can we all agree on this?

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on Apr 22, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Total agreement

but I really want to trust Bruney….He’s thinner, better attitude…just gotta be consistent.

by mrljdavid on Apr 22, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Girardi

seems to have found that guy in Ohlendorf. If/when he gets tired out, Bruney and Farnsworth will have to be those guys. Since they wont be relied on day in and day out, hopefully they can pull it together. Is this wishful thinking? maybe, but I remember booing the hell out of Weathers and Lloyd in the beginning of ‘96, too.

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

not his most dominant...

..but got the job done.

You don't realize how easy this game is until you get up in that broadcasting booth. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Apr 22, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Def...

you come in with the bases loaded and only let one run in you have done your job.

Crowds are won and lost and won again, but our hearts beat for the diehards.

by Edwantsacracker on Apr 22, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't look now...

but Damon is starting to hit.

by anaconda on Apr 22, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

That is the offense

I asked for before.

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

by Cbeck3 on Apr 22, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like

Damon wasn’t too happy with Yankee Come Lately’s post about moving him down the batting order.

by docgonzo on Apr 22, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Girardi is a moron

Why let Joba pitch the 8th with a 5 run lead and now you can’t use him tomorrow night?

by andyroth on Apr 22, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Because

he has retards like Farnsworth who serve up dingers and walk people on 3-2 sliders with a four run lead.

Now Mo is warming up. This guy is completely useless.

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on Apr 22, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

HR

is completely irrelevant. The walk is more troubling.

by seanp23 on Apr 22, 2008 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The sight

of that loser on the mound is what’s troubling.

"Well, that kind of puts a damper on even a Yankees win."
-- Phil Rizzuto after hearing about the Pope's death

by matthaggs on Apr 22, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only

Farnsy can make a good game painful.

by docgonzo on Apr 22, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't talk so badly about Farnsy

You’re going to hurt Ronster’s feelings after sticking his neck out that he would be fine this season

by andyroth on Apr 22, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude

April. Remember last April when we were all talking about whether we’d get a draft pick if we declined his option?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Apr 23, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Managers have to say that

Only an idiot manager would rip his own player to the media before he’s managed a single game for said team.

by anaconda on Apr 23, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yanks only win by 3; season a loss.

by seanp23 on Apr 23, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

He didn't have to rip him and still not say what he said

He could’ve said that when I caught him in Chicago I really liked his stuff. I just think he needs to build his confidence up a bit and he’ll be all right instead of confidently proclaiming that this guy who has sucked for 2 years here in New York would have a good season.

by andyroth on Apr 23, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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