CC Is a Yankee!
According to the NY Post, CC Sabathia decided late last night to agree to the largest contract for a pitcher ever. Cashman flew to CC's home in San Francisco to meet. By the end of the meeting, CC said he was a Yankee.
The only Question remains, given all of the signs he gave off over the last 3 weeks, does CC really want to pitch in New York?
At least we have some footing moving forward. I think now we can stop talking about Burnett and focus on either Lowe or Sheets. I just think 5 years is outrageous for Burnett, who only pitches well during contract years.
The new Rotation (in My mind):
CC
Wang
Joba
(Sheets or Lowe)
Hughes
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Personally
I don’t give a crap if he wants to pitch here. Throw on the pinstripes and be our workhorse. This contract can blow up in our face in a heartbeat. Remember how the Brewers abused him. Bastards.
by ProudYankee on Dec 10, 2008 9:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm curious
How excited are Yankee fans with this deal? Personally, I would never sign CC because he commands 6+ years, and I predict he will experience significant injuries in that time frame. I don’t have the stats, but I think the guy has pitched like 500 innings in the past two years. Body types like his usually cause knee problems when those guys get into their thirties.
CC will probably dominate for the Yanks for the next few years, but what about after that? Tell me what you think
by Schulz on Dec 10, 2008 9:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
3 years is fine
if he can pitch with dominance for 3 years, this contract will be worth it.
by MurderersRow on Dec 10, 2008 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's true
251.1 + 256.2 = 508 innings over 2007 and 2008, counting both regular season and postseason.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Dec 10, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm shocked, shocked!
that a Red Sox fan would predict injuries for Sabathia on the day he signs with the Yankees.
ironic how a guy can go 500 ip and not be seen as a workhorse, but as injury prone.
by Travis G on Dec 10, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a workhorse all right.
And if he keeps working like that, he’ll be trotting his way to the glue factory. CC’s massive workload is a concern for any team that signs him, and I would be voicing the same concerns if the Sox had gotten him (except there would be more exclamation points).
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Dec 11, 2008 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
6 years
is about 2 yrs too long. This guy better perform or he’ll regret not signing w/ us faster, and making the fans feel like he’s stringing our team along. We will not soon forget this.
by ProudYankee on Dec 10, 2008 9:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If he pitches like an ace-
it will forgotten in a heartbeat.
Giving any pitcher is a long deal is a huge gamble, but the yanks felt like they needed to make a splash, and they got their man.
But understand, this isn’t like taking a gamble on a Carl Pavano or the like- everybody in their right mind wanted this guy this winter. Of course the economics kept some teams way out, but if all was equal, a lot of teams would want CC on their club.
I am cautiously optimistic- not taking CC’s waiting as a personal affront, understanding that it was business all along. But I do agree that he better get off to a good start.
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by NumberSeven on Dec 10, 2008 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sabathia is a professional and made up his mind. I wouldn’t worry about him “not wanting to pitch here”. He knows what his job is.
Injury is a risk for any pitcher, but Sabathia is 28, past the prime injury years, has a smooth, repeatable delivery, and while he has pitched 500 innings over the past two years, he wasn’t overused during the earlier years of his career. These are all good signs. Furthermore, these past two seasons have seen his walk rate decrease.
The truth is, it’s a minor miracle for any pitcher to pitch as long as he has without getting hurt. His size is a non-factor. I would argue that somebody his size is better suited to handle the stresses of pitching than somebody the size of Pedro Martinez.
600 innings from Wang, Chamberlain, and Sabathia….
by 3460kuri on Dec 10, 2008 9:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Off the field
If you’re a Yankee fan and a resident of New York I don’t see how this can’t outrage you. To give a player this kind of money the same week they go hat in hand to the city asking for hundreds of millions of dollars in tax exempts bonds… I just don’t get it. Not in this economy, not in this city where the transit system is financial crisis…
On the baseball field a guy like Sabathia is almost a no brainer… but off the field, it seems pretty brainless.
by JasonB on Dec 10, 2008 10:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
great find charlie
this is great. a frontline workhorse was by far our most glaring need. we now have one for six years, and he’s still in the heart of his prime.
i’m actually very surprised he didn’t ask for more money or use Boston or Cali teams to up his price. i was sure the $140 mil was a starting point and it would have finally happened for closer to $150+.
by Travis G on Dec 10, 2008 10:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
7 years?
So he’ll be 35 making 20+ million a year?! YEAY!!!! NOT! Wtf on the 7th yr? Was that the deal maker? Fat bastard.
by ProudYankee on Dec 10, 2008 11:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
this dude is not David Wells...
…guy apparently has a pretty grueling work out routine.
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by NumberSeven on Dec 10, 2008 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol come on
man… How grueling can it be if he’s still huge?
by ProudYankee on Dec 10, 2008 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm torn
On one hand, I now (in retrospect) wish that the Yanks pulled the trigger on the Santana trade last winter – but this is a good way to get a true ACE out there. I love me some Wang but he’s not a true “Ace” that can pitch a game 7 for you. So I like this signing. And I like that CC seems like such a competitor. AND I like that he has had success in the AL (look at what he did in Cleveland) – so it isn’t like a guy that padded his stats in a dreadful division (yes, I’m looking at you Jake Peavy). So yeah, I’m quickly talking myself into this one.
I’d also vote for Lowe way ahead of AJ Burnett. AJB seems like a complete dbag and only does well in contract yrs. And Lowe is a workhorse.
by Cody K on Dec 10, 2008 12:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He has 160 Million reasons to want to be a Yankee
Which is more than enough.
But I disagree with Charlie’s stab at the rotation.
Cashman is way far away from being done. I expect him to sign one of Sheets/Burnett, plus either Pettitte or Lowe.
Joba will be the 5th starter (to limit his innings).
Hughes will start the season in the minors or the bullpen depending on how he performs in the spring and will be available to get a shot if someone goes down.
I expect it to look like this:
CC
Wang
Burnett or Sheets (not both)
Pettite or Lowe (probably not both, but that could change if neither Burnett or Sheets signs)
Joba
With Phil Phranchise waiting in the wings or in the bullpen.
by losjanks on Dec 10, 2008 12:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not a Yankees fan here....
but I hopes this doesn’t push the Yanks away from trying to sign Big Tex.
Adopted Giant: Aaron King
Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat
by baetown415 on Dec 10, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think all this "I'd rather play on the West Coast" was just a great strategy to drive up the price.
He made it clear that the Yankees would have to overbid for him, and since you guys basically had no choice but to sign him, you did outbid everyone else by quite a bit. The whole “not wanting to play for the Yanks” thing is an absolute sham. I’m a Sox fan, so I understand that the Yanks/Sox rivalry is the absolute apex of baseball. I think all great players would love to be on either side of it. All Sabathia did was play the market perfectly for an extra year and tens of millions of dollars.
by BTLove on Dec 10, 2008 5:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Everyone knows if you float the “i don’t want to play in NYC” balloon the Yanks pile on another few million.
What reason would he have for not wanting to play for the Yanks? The record breaking amount of money? The prestige? The state of the art new facility? The freaking center of the world to live in?
It sounds horrible :)
by JasonB on Dec 10, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think all this "I'd rather play on the West Coast" was just a great strategy to drive up the price.
He made it clear that the Yankees would have to overbid for him, and since you guys basically had no choice but to sign him, you did outbid everyone else by quite a bit. The whole “not wanting to play for the Yanks” thing is an absolute sham. I’m a Sox fan, so I understand that the Yanks/Sox rivalry is the absolute apex of baseball. I think all great players would love to be on either side of it. All Sabathia did was play the market perfectly for an extra year and tens of millions of dollars.
by BTLove on Dec 10, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you can say that now
but you dont know him. you dont know what his true motivations are. you’re just sharing your opinion, and we’re all grateful for that.
by Travis G on Dec 11, 2008 1:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CC in Yankee land
He will soon find out how fickle the Yankee fans really are. That is what makes him hesitant to play for them. But just like most other players…money talks! He is a great pitcher, he has proven that. He will be good for the Yankees too. I saw him pitch many, many times when he played for Cleveland and right here in my home town when he was an up and coming star playing for the Scrappers in Niles, OH the Tribes single “A” team. Just sit back and enjoy it people. You scream for a winner and here is a guy that will definitely help. (but he still can’t score runs for ya!) your crunch time chokers need to address that! Ouch! The truth hurts!!
by loweseagle58 on Dec 11, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
duh
I’m a Clevaland fan….see my message saw him pitch many, many times when he played for Cleveland and right here in my home town when he was an up and coming star playing for the Scrappers in Niles, OH, the Tribes single "A" team
Who cares about the phillies?
by loweseagle58 on Dec 11, 2008 1:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
CLE fan here. Congrats. CC will win you a lot of regular season games over the next few years. You are well on your way to another $300M off season. Way to be the NYY. I do have a few questions though.
You need tax payer money why?
That home grown “Trinity” project lasted how lon, one season?
How many playoff choke jobs will it take before you turn on CC like you did A-Rod?
This is an extremely risky contract for NY. That opt out increases your risk dramatically, but gives you no reward. Best case, CC is an absolute ace for another 3 years and you have to renegotiate and give him another $160M after 2011. Worst case, he gets hurt sometime in the first 3 years and you are stuck vastly overpaying on a $90M+ 4 year player option.
by KevinV on Dec 11, 2008 10:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Trinity
are still waiting in the wings. We got our egos bruised, but Joba, Hughes, and IPK still have plenty of times to embark on productive major league careers.
Say it with me, “You can never have too much starting pitching.”
As for tax payer money- I didn’t see the Indians turning down any of the 48% of the Jake that Cleveland built for them. The Yankees are a draw for NYC in the same way the Indians are a draw for Cleveland. We also didn’t sell the name of our stadium for $58 million (more than half of what the Indians paid for their yard).
Playoff chokes- it really depends. If C.C. rolls over in decisive games against the Red Sox or Angels while inviting constant media drama, then 1. If he goes about his business without drawing too much attention to himself (no gambling dens, hookers, or washed up pop stars) then he could develop a Matsui-like workman’s reputation. Nobody boos Hideki despite only 10 hits, 1HR 2RBI, in his last 47 postseason ABs.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."
by jscape2000 on Dec 11, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i suppose you want an apology
that our owner wants to win and doesn’t care what it costs. well, you won’t get one.
you probably think Jeff Loria and Carl Pohlad are better owners because of their frugality. ask Marlins and Twins fans what they think of them.
by Travis G on Dec 12, 2008 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its not about frugality. Its about resources. The NYY have far more of them than anyone else. That is not fair. Their abuse of the rest of MLB should make you ashamed, not proud.
by KevinV on Dec 23, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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