A person in the Yankees' loop said to me earlier today that they're more likely to wind up with...

A person in the Yankees' loop said to me earlier today that they're more likely to wind up with Manny than with Mark Teixeira. Makes some sense, when you think about the relative commitment in years. For now, though, I'm gonna guess that some other team overpays for Manny. I think Cashman will have serious reservations about this one, especially since Cashman and Theo Epstein have become more friendly in recent years.

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With position changes looming for Arod, Jeter and Posada in the near future, I'd rather add Manny than Tex. That desire doubles if we can move Johnny Damon (more on that later).

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love that...

“A person in the Yankees’ loop” .. what the hell does that mean?? a season ticket holder? take everything with a grain of salt at this point. Although I agree with you jscape it doesn’t seem like a Cashman-like move.

One question.. Jeter and Posada, okay, but A-Rod position change looming? I would think he’s at third for another 5-6 years at least.

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by NumberSeven on Nov 1, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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"I think Cashman will have serious reservations " is Ken Davidoff, not me.
At this point, I don’t pretend to guess what Cashman is thinking. The pressure on him to add a big bat will be amplified if he lets both Abreu and Giambi walk (he should). Manny for 3 > Tex for 8.
But choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2008 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just my opinion, but I don’t think there’s any chance the Yanks sign Manny. I’d be downright shocked (and appalled) if they did.

Manny certainly doesn’t fit the “get younger, get better defensively, and "get someone who doesn’t have enough baggage to fill the Grand Canyon” profile that they want in a ballplayer.

He’s not worth the trouble and I don’t even think Cashman will ultimately make a bid for him.

by anaconda on Nov 2, 2008 3:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jesus christ

You should never make a decision assuming that because someone else MIGHT move to that position sometime later.

by RollingWave on Nov 2, 2008 11:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

No?

Ripken moved to 3B from SS in his age 36 season.
2009 will be Jeter’s age 35. I expect Jeter to finish his current contract as a SS, but a position change will be part of the negotiation for his new contract after the 2010 season (assuming he doesn’t sign an extension next off-season).
I think the GM’s job demands thinking about where Jeter will play. Personally, I see Jeter as either a 1B or a RF.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jeter

is not moving from SS. He has too much pride and dignity, and he will know when it is time to hang up his jersey. The day i see derek in right field would be sad.

by Soriano NY 12 on Nov 2, 2008 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

when Jeter's skills make him a non-productive SS, he'll be even less valuable as a 1B

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by Sky Kalkman on Nov 2, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sky- are you saying that Jeter at short (good bat and poor defense) > Jeter at 1B (mediocre bat and decent defense)?

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by jscape2000 on Nov 2, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Within, say, five runs, he's equally valuable in either spot

Moving from SS to 1B gives a player fewer opportunities, which tends to hide poor range or penalize good range. So that makes it a good move. But Jeter’s main fielding strength is his arm, which would no longer be an asset at first.

As has been brought up before, his skills are probably maximized in the outfield, but it’s really not that huge of a difference wherever he plays. Once he’s a .340 OBP, .400 SLG guy and -10 runs at shortstop, he’s fallen under being a league-average player no matter where you put him.

My last comment was hyperbolized.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Nov 2, 2008 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly.

not to meantion the contract you’ll most likely need to re-sign him at.

The Yankees need some ballz on this one going foward. they need to let Jeter go unless he suddenly find some miracle cure for his range in the next two season and/or is willing to take a massive pay cut, neither is likely to happen.

The prospect of us PERHAPS needing to play Jeter at first, who would at BEST be a passable 1B overall, two years down the road, is a terrible reason to not sign the best 1B in the AL on both ends of the ball who also happens to be 5 years younger

by RollingWave on Nov 2, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

another issue

as for moving Jeter to 2B, one COULD consider that, though it really depends on what path Cano goes over the next two year, if he pulls a Carlos Baerga, then we should consider it, if he proves that 08 was a fluke of tough luck, then we should not even give it a thought.

as for CF, I have no idea, I guess that could work, though again it depends on how things shape up until then, and even then he still needs to get his bat back closer to 06-07 then 08 .

by RollingWave on Nov 2, 2008 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i wouldnt mind seeing..

Posada 1B, Jeter 2b, A-Rod SS, Cano 3B

by Soriano NY 12 on Nov 3, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Whoa.

I hadn’t even thought about rotating the infielders like that. Is Cano at third plausible?

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by dzawaki on Nov 3, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i beleive

that was Cano’s original position.. correct me if I’m wrong?

by Soriano NY 12 on Nov 3, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i am wrong

but he did play some short… and i think it is plausible..

by Soriano NY 12 on Nov 3, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jeter ...

He’s made more money than God, and when his skills diminish he will leave the game. I see Jeter as more of a Barry Sanders, or Joe DiMaggio than a Willie Mays. Jeter will walk away with his legacy intact, and I believe that’s extremely important to him.

Could he play centerfield like Robin Yount? Absolutely. Could he play firstbase? Of course. But he won’t. While it might be fun for some to offer suppositions, in reality, it’s simply not going to happen.

A far more pressing need is pitching, and from what I read CC, Peavy, Burnett aren’t terribly interested in the Yankees. And do I want to see us vastly overpay for Manny? No.

Let’s keep the focus on pitching and finding a young catcher.

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Nov 4, 2008 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs