Chamberlain a starter according to ESPN
by MartyMcFly on Oct 16, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
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PrintAn interview with Hank Steinbrenner after the Yankees fall meeting today has brought some insight into the situation of Joba Chamberlain for this upcoming season. According to Hank, he has stated the following
"The plan as of right now is Chamberlain is going to be a starter...Everybody's pretty much in agreement with that"
Thoughts on what seems to be the hot topic issue this offseason for the Yankees, besides what free agents they will go after
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Joba Time
It’s about time. Joba deserves to be in the starting rotation. For how good his numbers were in college and the minors, its a shame that it means nothing when he is on the bench. He has to good of an arm to waste by having him as a setup guy for Mo. I know that management wants his to become the closer but Rivera still has a few years left in the tank. So untill then, I say unleashe him to the AL-East and bring back a Championship to New York!
We already know this
Cashman made that point clear on WFAN after he was resigned a couple of weeks ago.
That said, you should take everything Hank says with a huge grain of salt. He doesn’t run the team and he doesn’t make any of the big decisions. Hal and Cashman make those decisions.
Hank really wanted Santana and it didn’t happen. He wanted Joba in the rotation in April and it didn’t happen. He wants Teixeira and I’d bet my next paycheck that that won’t happen either.
Hank never attended games – not the VT charity game, not the All Star Game, not the final game at the Stadium.
Unless otherwise confirmed by Hal or Cashman, I tend not to believe a word Hank says.
I want Joba to replace Mariano when Mo retires
seriously Joba is the shit when he is in the pen. He has a 100 mile per hour fast ball. What other guy would u like replacing MoRivera when he leaves (God forbide)
After Game 6 The Curse of Billy Penn will be shattered and...we party
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Oct 17, 2008 8:38 AM EDT reply actions
give me a break
why would we want to let Joba only pitch 70 innings a year when he could pitch 200?
b/c he hasnt been positivly good as a starter
he’s already proven hes a dynamic reliever. We’ll need a closer within thwe next 2-3 years get Joba ready then when that time comes we got another sandman in our pen for that one run lead goin into the ninth
After Game 6 The Curse of Billy Penn will be shattered and...we party
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Oct 21, 2008 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
nonsense
He’s proven himself enough in his 12 starts this year to open next season in the rotation.
Again, when you have a pitcher who throws 100 mph, averages 10 k/9 innings, has good command of 4 pitches, and has had no unreasonble injury problems in the past, it is complete nonsense to relegate that guy to the bullpen.
Joba Chamberlain is ace material. Front line, shut down ace material. No doubt he would make a good closer, most good pitchers would. But most closers are failed starters. Mariano was a failed starter. Until Joba proves otherwise, he’s in the rotation.
By that time
You have other pitching prospects who can get the job done. Someone like Mark Melancon, who could get the call up this year after shooting up through the minors. In my own opinion, and from what I have read from other posters
Joba Chamberlain as a #1 or 2 starter > Joba Chamberlain as a setup man for the next 2 years
Why let the talent just sit there in the pen when every five days you can send a guy to the mound that gives you a chance to win every time? In every game he started this season, he kept the Yankees in it. I just hope that they don’t act too stringent upon the 200 innings limit this season and just see how he progresses, because if he is dominating and about to reach that mark, just let him ride and strengthen that arm. These walking on eggshells method of handling pitchers I think does more harm then good. Its not about innings pitched, its about effort used to get through a game.
by 'hasn't been positively good'
do you mean 65.1 ip, 2.76 ERA and 74 Ks?
if only our other starters couldn’t be ‘positively good’.
Why not get Sandy Koufax?
Peavy has a full not trade. He’s reported to have given the Padre’s a list of 5 teams who he would find acceptyable. The Dodgers are on it. The Yankees are not.
We are not loaded with depth. We’d be better off signing an available arm from the FA’s than pursue a trade for someone like Peavy who will cost twice. First, you’ll have to give the Padres a TON of talent for him. Then you’ll have to sweeten an already hefty contract to get him to waive the no trade.
This is not going to happen. I admit it would be nice. It’s just not reasonable to hope for it.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
He's got to follow Mo
When Mariano leaves the team, he has to be a reliever.
He throws ridiculously hard and doesn’t really throw off speed as well as he does the hard stuff.
That’s the ingredients for a closer, come in and only go through the lineup once at most. He has
the potential to be the next great yankee closer
The front office disagrees
and so do I. Vehemently.
Mo is still going to be the closer for at least two more years. By the time Mo retires, Joba will probably be one of the top young starters in the game.
At that point, they wouldn’t dare move him. And they shouldn’t.
I’m sure Beckett, Halladay, and Sabathia would be great closers as well but their respective GMs aren’t rushing to put them in the pen when their closer goes down.
The Joba argument is a no-brainer.
+1
After Game 6 The Curse of Billy Penn will be shattered and...we party
by XxBleedGreen5xX on Oct 21, 2008 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
"doesn’t really throw off speed as well as he does the hard stuff"?
really? so that plus-plus slider that destroys hitters (did you watch the Boston game?) ‘he doesn’t really throw as well’? i remember at one point in 2007, his slider hadn’t even been made contact with by a hitter (and it wasnt too small a sample either).
“the potential to be the next great yankee closer”
so does every decent starter. Al Aceves, who’s probably a nice back-end starter, could dominate as a reliever. did you see his first game, when he hit 94 mph and pitched 2 perfect innings?
Yeah
Any good pitcher would be a good closer. But if he’s capable of 200 good innings per year, why do we want to limit him to 70?
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