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Thinking About Edwar

I publicly begged for Edwar Ramirez to get the call up from Triple-A. I saw that 102/22 K/BB ratio in 56.2 IP and I cried every time Scott Proctor walked the leadoff hitter.

So it'd be dishonest of me to pretend I'm not disappointed by Edwar's major league showing.

I know he's only been in the bigs for 19 innings- the smallest of small sample sizes. And while he's struggled with his control his 2.9 K/BB ratio is decent and 13.74 K/9 points toward unrealized brilliance.

I want to put aside numbers for a minute, and think about Edwar's repertoire. Torre has spoken several times Edwar's value as a change-up guy in a bullpen of fastball-slider pitchers.

So who has Torre used Edwar to pitch behind? Click the jump to find out...

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Starter Previous Pitcher Results Opponent
Wang Proctor 1IP 0H 0BB 3K Min
Pettitte Pettitte 1.1IP 2H 1BB 1K TB
Mussina Mussina 0IP 1H 4BB 0K LAA
Hughes Henn 2.1IP 1H 0BB 3K BAL
Wang Chamberlain 2IP 0H 0BB 3K DET
Mussina Villone 2IP 4H 1BB 4K LAA
Clemens Clemens 1IP 0H 1BB 1K DET
Mussina Mussina 1IP 1H 1BB 1K DET
Wang Chamberlain 0.2IP 0H 0BB 1K BOS
Pettitte Pettitte 1.1IP 3H 0BB 3K TB
Hughes Chamberlain 1IP 0H 0BB 1K SEA
Pettitte Bruney 0.2IP 0H 0BB 0K KC
Hughes Hughes 2IP 2H 0BB 5K TOR
Mussina Mussina 0.1IP 0H 0BB 0K TOR
Wang Wang 0.2IP 0H 1BB 2K BOS
Hughes Hughes 1IP 3H 0BB 1K BAL
Wang Wang 0.1IP 1H 0BB 0K TOR
Hughes Veras 0.1IP 2H 0BB 0K TOR

Several things leap out at me:
First, Edwar seems to have had his worst outings in relief of Hughes. It could be that the still-recovering Hughes fastball looks too much like Edwar's fastball.
Also, as Edwantsacracker pointed out to me while we were discussing this post, Edwar's changeup looks a lot like a Mussina fastball.
There are other factors to consider, though.

Second, Edwar has faced Toronto 4 times in the last two weeks. This weeks the Jays have owned him. There could be an issue of overexposure here.

Third, and related to overexposure, Edwar has been called on nine times in September already. Compared to three appearances in July and six times in August. Twelve appearances a month would put a pitcher on pace for a Proctor-esque 72 games. 50 games (8/month) might be more realistic for a two pitch pitcher like Edwar.
If he can make an adjustment to compensate for that, he'll be able to fulfill his potential.

I think Edwar has a place in the 2008 pen. With proper usage (not matching him up against the same clubs too often, trying to watch who pitches immediately in front of him) I think Edwar could be a number 3 bullpen guy.

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i really wanted to see edwar. his k/9 almost made me piss my pants. I also fell in love with the idea of his changeup. truth is, however, i would like to see joe give britton more of a chance at this point, and maybe even test out veras a little more (although his outting today sucked.) All in all, edwar has been a considerable disappointment, but  i think he can be very valuable to next years bullpen (which I think will be very good.)
"It's great to be young and a Yankee"

by stillmonster on Sep 23, 2007 1:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Sep 23, 2007 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very thorough, but
what does it all really mean? There can't be too many caveats for using Edwar, otherwise, you've got something akin to a lefty specialist. You think that being a little more strategic now in his use is just a development step?

Also, I missed the bullpen coming unglued yesterday. How'd Ohlendorf look?

 

by LateInningRelief on Sep 23, 2007 11:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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