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Game #147 -- New York Yankees at Boston Red Sox

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New York Yankees

Johnny Damon,  DH
Derek Jeter,  SS
Bobby Abreu,  RF
Alex Rodriguez,  3B
Jorge Posada,  C
Hideki Matsui,  LF
Jason Giambi,  1B
Robinson Cano,  2B
Melky Cabrera,  CF

Andy Pettitte,  LHP  (13-8,  3.78)


Boston Red Sox

Julio Lugo,  SS
Dustin Pedroia,  2B
David Ortiz,  DH
Mike Lowell,  3B
Kevin Youkilis,  1B
J.D. Drew,  RF
Jason Varitek,  C
Bobby Kielty,  LF
Jacoby Ellsbury,  CF

Daisuke Matsuzaka,  RHP  (14-12,  4.44)


Despite last night's loss, the starting pitching has been spectacular the last 8 games (5-0, 2.16 ERA).

Pete Abraham reports that both Kyle Farnsworth and Luis Vizcaino are unavailable tonight in addition to Joba Chamberlain.  Vizcaino was "tight" after last night's outing and Farnsworth is out with a bruised labia, errr "stiff neck."  Thanks for helping out, Farnsy!

I guess the hope now is that they rock Dice-K again and the bridge to Mo is not needed -- or -- Pettitte goes 7.0 IP and pin our hopes on Edwar Ramirez doing the job in the 8th inning.

Pettitte has outstanding career numbers against the Red Sox (15-6, 3.32 ERA in 26 starts) and has been solid this season once again despite a bloated ERA (2-1, 4.75 ERA in 4 starts).

Matsuzaka has been roughed up by the Yanks this season (2-1, 6.98 ERA in 3 starts).  He has also sucked badly since Aug 10th (1-4, 9.57 ERA in 5 starts).  Red Sox are just 15-14 in games he has pitched this season.

Yankee hitters vs. Matsuzaka:

Damon:  .400 (4-10, HR)  Jeter:  .444 (4-9, 2 HR)  Giambi:  .600 (3-5)  Posada:  .500 (3-6)  A-Rod:  .167 (1-6)  Abreu:  .000 (0-8)

The featured graphic for tonight's game was the long-time home jersey logo of the Boston Red Sox from 1933 to 1978.

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OTM
is calling it the most pivotal series of the year.  I couldn't agree more.  Let's Go Yankees!

by docgonzo on Sep 14, 2007 6:43 PM EDT   0 recs

I've heard that Manny may be out
the entire series.

That's great because he has always murdered both Pettitte and Wang.

He's had trouble with Clemens, though.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 6:47 PM EDT   0 recs

this is
a different Clemens though, a very average one
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 7:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Great, Ramirez is the bridge to Mo even
if it gets there.  I hate Farnsworth even when he doesn't pitch.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 7:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Strange to hear
usually we hate him when he does pitch!
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 8:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

27 pitches for Dice-K
They didn't score, but I'll take it.  

They will get to him sooner or later.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Godzilla
gotta start hitting soon...Boston is tentative in the field right now...I liked the fac t that Joe moved him down a spot. He's so streaky..It's time for a streak...

by John Amato on Sep 14, 2007 7:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Jeter
He's usually good if he gets to the ball- what's going on?

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 7:40 PM EDT   0 recs

He has three Gold Gloves
that makes me laugh.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 8:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

44 pitches for Dice-K
Keep working the counts.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 7:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Shut up already
Every damn batter they have to mention the Joba pitches.  And Remy, it's Jahbah, you moron.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 7:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Drew
Teh awesome.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 8:01 PM EDT   0 recs

I was a big fan
of the Nancy signing from Day 1.

Unlike many of my predictions, I'm glad to see this one has worked out so far.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 8:03 PM EDT   0 recs

The Remy show
He's on fire tonight with the moronic comments.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

48 pitches for Andy so far
Don't think we'll see him getting to the 7th.

by docgonzo on Sep 14, 2007 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

That's on Jeter
He had to throw a ton more pitches because of Jeter in the first.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bobby V talking on ESPN
Wonder if he'll be back in the U.S. managing anytime soon.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 14, 2007 8:20 PM EDT   0 recs

I forgot to mention this before....
but the ChiSox are playing the Angels this weekend.

Don't expect any help from the worthless Southsiders.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Not good
DiceK usually has one bad inning each outing- they let him get out of it with no runs.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Live, from
Fenway park, team pathetic in the visitors dugout.

Its great and all Jeter wants to play hurt, but he is killing the team.  He has been awful for awhile now.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 8:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow...
I didn't realize the game was nearly over and the Yanks were getting blown out.

Have some faith.  You throw in the towel too easily.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If the
starting pitcher wasn't at 70 pitches after 3 and the only person in the bullpen wasn't just Mo, I would be much more optimistic.  They have had chances every innning and have done shit against Dice-K.  He is stuff doesn't look good.  First inning said it all.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 8:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tonight isn't the exception
you make comments like that all the time.  

Doesn't matter who is available in the pen or not.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 8:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Your
right.  Having a runner on 3rd and not scoring is awesome.  At least they increased the pitch count.  Go team!
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 8:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Everyone here knows
you make those kinds of comments all the time.  I don't exactly need to provide any more examples.

You gave up when the score was 1-0, so I sure as hell don't expect you to change your mind at 2-1 or 3-1.

You have every right to cheer or jeer your team all you want.

But, often, your comments are overreactions.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 8:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?
When the team is playing like shit I state that.  When they make the stupid mental mistakes like they did today I state that.

Everybody knows, lets see how many people back you up here.

You are in love with archiving old pa messages, go find where I say it where it isn't obvious.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think
Pride, Power, Cocktease says it all.

Yeah, it's an inside joke.  Sort of.

Like I said, you can jeer this team all you want.  That is your right.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You make
accusations, back that shit up.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not getting into another
pissing match with you.  Forget it.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 9:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

*Translation
"I can't find any"
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 9:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not getting
in a pissing match also means you are just talking nonsense.  In Jscapes recent article you posted that you deleted all the comments since it wasn't about the topic.  When I said you did that 1 month ago, you said you didn't have the capability to do that.
I look at things realisticly.  When Dice-K is pitching like shit and they score only one run, it is pathetic.  
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not true
I said I couldn't delete a portion or edit someone's comment.  Not even my own.

I can delete the entire comment or nothing at all.  That's it.

You were claiming back then that I somehow edited or deleted a sentence from your comment.  I am incapable of doing that.

I deleted those comments the other day because we had a troll come in here and unintentionally hijacked the thread and posted something that had nothing to do with the topic at hand.

If it was a PA regular who had done the same thing, I wouldn't have bothered.

That was the type of post for a diary and it would have likely gotten a lot of replies.  I told him to write it again as a diary and he chose not to do it.

Calling them "team pathetic" because they couldn't score off a struggling pitcher in the 1st inning is an overreaction.

It happens.  Can't break through every time no matter how good the offense is.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 9:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Still waiting
for everybody to agree with you that I do that.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm still
waiting for everybody to agree with you that I do that.  P.S - Cbeck doesn't count
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i agree

by dmgyanks on Sep 14, 2007 11:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm still
waiting for everyone here that knows I make these statements to agree with you.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 11:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You can wait ten years
Out of respect for John, I will not engage in another pissing match with you.

It reflects a lot worse on me as a "moderator" than it does you.

You can act however you want and it matters to nobody.

Other people don't want to get into the middle of this and I don't blame them.  I don't involve myself in other people's pissing matches either.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 11:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice try
again coming from the die hard fan.  You made an accusation and haven't backed any of it up.  You are saying you don't want to get in a pissing match when you are the one that started it in the first place.  Learn to finish what you started.

You also just called yourself a moderator when 1 month ago to MG you said you weren't one.  Fantastic.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 15, 2007 8:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you want to send me hate mail
or anything of that nature, go ahead.  be my guest.

But I'm not going to go back and forth with you on this blog like that again.

by anaconda on Sep 15, 2007 9:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and since
you like to archive messages, please look up and tell me when I do that all the time
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ortiz
Sporting more facial hair- I guess the little boy is growing up.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Hahaha
I can't believe they sent Ortiz home.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 14, 2007 8:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Solid throw by Melky
That was a laser
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 8:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Fuck
Giambi is worthless in the field.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 14, 2007 8:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Niiiiiiice
We're coming back!

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 14, 2007 8:43 PM EDT   0 recs

What the fuck
Why is Melky sliding into first? Still?

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 14, 2007 8:53 PM EDT   0 recs

Well
At least it wasn't head first, but he's still slowing himself down.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 8:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm gonna punch Melky
in the nose.  He probably would have beaten that out if he had not slid into 1B.

by anaconda on Sep 14, 2007 8:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Your
attitude is awful.  Go team!
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fuck Melky
His sliding shit just cost us a run. Glad to see Torre takes his defiance seriously. Fuck me.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 8:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Holy shit
Lohud actually had something critical to say about a Yankee not named Kyle Farnsworth and he agrees with me that Melky needs to sit for this shit:

"Melky Cabrera needs to be benched for a day and fined $1,000 for continuing to slide into first base. Joe Torre, Larry Bowa, Tony Pena and half his teammates have told him to stop doing it. Yet he continues to do it.

OK, fine. Than sit for a day and think about it. He may have cost the Yankees a run there. What he's doing is insubordination at this point."

I must admit that I feel kind of dirty knowing that Pete Abraham agrees with me. It is like garp backing up your position in here.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 10:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

melk
picked a nice time for a DP.  didnt see that one coming.

by Clutch like Leyritz on Sep 14, 2007 8:55 PM EDT   0 recs

This is not good

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 14, 2007 8:56 PM EDT   0 recs

No, it
is good.  Go team!  They are playing so hard.  2nd and 3rd with 0 out is awesome!
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 8:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Go Minnesota
As long as Detroit loses I don't care that the Yanks are shitting away this game.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 8:59 PM EDT   0 recs

That doesn't
look good so far either.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know
Detroit has Nate Robertson on the mound.  He always self-destructs.
"You play the game to win the game, and not to worry about what's on the back of the baseball card at the end of the year." - Paul O'Neill

by yankee come lately on Sep 14, 2007 9:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They'll be fine
It's only 1-0 Detroit. Unless we get swept and they sweep Minny, I am not that worried. Santana pitches tomorrow night and they still have some tough series coming up.  
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 9:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They have another series
against MIN too so hopefully they catch Santana again.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 9:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sweet Christ
Giambi is fucking terrible
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 9:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Ellsbury
I already don't like him.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 9:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Pettitte looks done
His pitches are elevating this inning.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 9:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Here we go
top of the order up, and Dice is ripe for the taking at 78 pitches.  There's no reason we can't get those runs right back off this guy.
"You play the game to win the game, and not to worry about what's on the back of the baseball card at the end of the year." - Paul O'Neill

by yankee come lately on Sep 14, 2007 9:19 PM EDT   0 recs

So much for that
They have mailed this one in.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 9:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nah
they'll put runs on the board before this is over, but it will be tough to keep the Sox at 5.

2 run shot for Morneau, 2-1 Minny.

by matthaggs on Sep 14, 2007 9:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ARod
Slumping again?  HPB and K tonight, several Ks yesterday, looking bad this at bat.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 9:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Swinging
at balls way out of the zone also
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dice K.
Sucks.

The Yanks are getting themselves out tonight. If he brought this stuff to the mound 5 times against the Yanks, he'd be in the shower 4.5 of those times by now.

Considering the $100 million price tag, this is an awful signing.  I don't see how he's going to get better, he's physically limited and is head is already bumping against his ceiling.  

by matthaggs on Sep 14, 2007 9:48 PM EDT   0 recs

5.2 IP
Didn't get that last out- if he had, that would have been the worst "quality start" I've ever seen.  Hopefully he'll end up charged with 4 runs here.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 9:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just don't
think he his used to a mlb season yet.  His stuff was really good in the 1st half.  I do think he will be better next year sinc he knows what to expect
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 9:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Considering the absurdly high price of starting
pitching, this deal is by no means awful. You have to wonder if he is hurt with his dramatic decline sort of out of nowhere.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 10:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nah it's awful
The only difference between him and a guy like Ted Lilly is one extra year and $60 million dollars.

He's a #3 starter at best getting paid #1 money.

There's no deception.  His fastball is straight and not very fast. His control blows.  

Color me 100% unimpressed.

Sucks was too strong a word, it should be reserved for a guy like Igawa, but I haven't really seen anything special.  Especially considering the ridiculous hype.

by matthaggs on Sep 14, 2007 10:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree that he is overhyped
but I don't think his contract is awful. I think he is hurt.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 11:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nope
his contract is awful.

He would be great in the NL, but here where the hitters live he's just ok.  And you don't give ok starters $100 million.

He's not hurt, the league is catching up to him, particulary the AL East.  

He will get gradually worse, not better.

by matthaggs on Sep 15, 2007 3:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He costs $20 million a year
Unless the posting fee only counts against the Yankees.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Sep 15, 2007 11:33 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Calculator much?
From what I can tell, 103M divided by 6 isn't 20M. While one can point out the merits of the pitfalls of any six year deal for a pitcher, I just don't think he is going to be so bad that this contract will be awful. He is still a 26 year old power pitcher. Unless he is injured I don't see any reason that the Sox won't get a good return on him for the future. To me, his fade down the stretch is either physical or the league just suddenly figured him out. I tend to think it is the former, but that is just me.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 15, 2007 11:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't think
it was humanly possible to walk Pudge. Nice job Garza
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 10:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Wow
Finally a bounce goes their way.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 10:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh Captain, My Captain
"You play the game to win the game, and not to worry about what's on the back of the baseball card at the end of the year." - Paul O'Neill

by yankee come lately on Sep 14, 2007 10:04 PM EDT   0 recs

Merry go round
Start 'em up.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 10:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Ball 4
Swinging in the dirt.

by SP on Sep 14, 2007 10:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Its great
that Jeter wants to play hurt, but a drop in almost 30 points in his BA in one month doesn't do the job.  

Even with Pettitte pitching like shit, the Yanks should either be tied or leading this game.  

Hey Anaconda, that is pathetic

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 10:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Tigers
take a 4-2 lead.  That game that Toronto blew against Detroit and last nights game are looking to be huge right now.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 10:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Yanks will be fine
so long as they avoid a sweep in Boston. At least Cleveland should pick up a game on Anaheim so tonight isn't a total loss.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 10:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry
for sounding so realistic or negative, I might get PA police patrol after me now
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 14, 2007 10:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have no room to talk
but I do think they will be fine. They will still be 3 up in the loss column after tonight and the Tigers face Santana tomorrow.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 14, 2007 10:21 PM EDT