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Moose's rebound game adds a little intrigue to the rotation for the rest of the regular season and into the playoffs. Much as I hate to repeat a David Justice comment, he was right in pointing out that he'd take a revamped Moose over Kennedy in the post. I'd actually say the same goes for Hughes. Question is, is Moose revamped? I think a little time off did him good, and he pitched more than respectably tonight. So he's going to get another start or two to find out if tonight or his previous few starts was/were the fluke.

If he performs at or better than Kennedy and Hughes' levels---good enough, but nothing to bank on in a 7 game series--and Rocket continues to battle inflammation and blisters, who're the odd men out in the post season?

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Who joins Wang & Pettitte in the post-season rotation
Hughes & Kennedy
4 votes
Three man rotation w/ Clemens
8 votes
Three man rotation w/ Moose
0 votes
Three man rotation w/ Hughes
1 votes
Three man rotation w/ Kennedy
0 votes
Clemens & Moose
11 votes
Clemens & Hughes
15 votes
Clemens & Kennedy
7 votes
Moose & Hughes
0 votes
Moose & Kennedy
1 votes

47 votes | Poll has closed

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I've been thinking about it
At this point I'll go with Clemens and Kennedy.

We've got two flex spots because of Pavano and Phillips on the 60 day DL.  But we can still only take 25 players.

  1. C- Posada
  2. 1B- Giambi
  3. 2B- Cano
  4. 3B- Alex
  5. SS- Jeter
  6. LF- Damon
  7. CF- Melky
  8. RF- Abreu
  9. DH- Matsui
  10. B- Molina
  11. B- WB
  12. B- Shelley
  13. SP- Wang
  14. SP- Pettitte
  15. SP- Clemens
  16. SP- IPK
  17. RP- Mo
  18. RP- Joba
  19. RP- Hughes
  20. RP- Viz
  21. RP- Farnsy
  22. RP- Edwar
  23. RP- Ohlendorf
  24. RP- Moose
Realisticly, neither Moose nor Farns is staying home.  Who do you want to see get the 25th spot?  Alberto?  Britton?  
Does it matter?
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Sep 12, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would venture to say Villone or Henn
I can't imagine the Yankees going in without a lefty in the bullpen, no matter how shitty he is.

That being said, I also don't think there's any way the Yankees are carrying 13 pitchers on the postseason roster. Here's who I see:

C - Posada
1B - Mientkiewicz
2B - Cano
SS - Jeter
3B - A-Rod
OF - Damon, Abreu, Matsui, Cabrera
DH - Giambi
Bench - Betemit, Molina, Duncan

SP - Wang, Pettitte, Clemens, Mussina (sorry, but I have this feeling that Torre's going to take Moose in the rotation as the 4th starter as long as he doesn't completely suck again down the stretch)
Relief: Rivera, Chamberlain, Farnsworth, Vizcaino, Henn, Ramirez, Hughes

Basically, I see one relief spot open. Given that there are essentially 2 long relief guys (Hughes, Henn) in the 'pen, I don't see the need for IPK, DeSalvo, or any of the other spot starters from this season. If Ohlendorf does well in the last few weeks, may it's him. If not, it'll probably be Bruney.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 13, 2007 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should've added one more possibility
Possibly add one more bench player (probably a utility infielder like Gonzales) instead of adding another reliever.

by PsiFighter37 on Sep 13, 2007 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'oh
Totally forgot Minky.
You're right.  No matter how well Ohlendorf pitches, if it comes down to him or a lefty, the lefty is going.
Probably Villone.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Sep 13, 2007 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy
I'm sure we can all agree that both Moose and Hughes are going to be on the post-season roster.

However, I think Kennedy is the odd man out unless he pitches lights out his next 2-3 starts -- beginning tonight in Toronto.  I say that because I don't think Torre is going to want to carry that many starters in the pen during the ALDS.

Hypothetically speaking, if Moose starts Game 4, Hughes is next in line to be the long man.  Adding Kennedy to the pen means you are planting 2/3 of the "Holy Trinity" into roles they've never had during their young careers.

If Hughes starts Game 4, Moose will be the long man, and again, there will be little use for Kennedy.  I'd be downright shocked if Kennedy was chosen to start Game 4 over Hughes or Moose.

I think Torre would rather have another experienced arm in the pen like Britton or Villone instead.  That's not to say I wouldn't choose Kennedy over Villone, but we're speculating on what Torre will do.  He'll probably add Villone if it comes down to having a lefty in the pen.

Hopefully, these young guys start pitching lights out the last couple of weeks and force their way onto the roster.  Southpaws or not, I don't think Henn or Villone are worth carrying simply because they are lefties.  

This team hasn't had a "lefty specialist" who could get lefties out all season and they're now 21 games over .500.

by anaconda on Sep 13, 2007 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

stinky left handers and postseason rosters
We all know Torre has a weakness for veterans. But the observation of this baseball GOD is that it is time to trust our eyes when it comes to the young talent on this team. Arms are arms no matter how they get used. Kennedy, Hughes, Chamberlain, Petitte, Clemens, Wang, Farnsworth, Vizcaino, Edwar, Ohlendorf and Mussina all belong on this roster come the postseason. Oh, just one more thing. Once in the post season, the "Joba Rules" definitely need some adjusting. Come on. The kid is a horse.
Larry the Baseball God

by Larry the Baseball God on Sep 17, 2007 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For future reference...
it's better to write out the word "and" instead of using the "&" symbol for polls because it sometimes screws with the html formatting.

I don't know why, but that's the way it is.  

I encounter goofy quirks like that on PA all the time when writing my own threads.

by anaconda on Sep 13, 2007 6:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets
all worry about this stuff when they have a playoff spot clinched.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 13, 2007 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this is what i see
C: posada
1B: giambi
2B: cano
SS: jeter
3B: arod
LF: Damon
CF: Melky
RF: Abreu
DH: Matsui
Bench:  Betemit, Shelley, Molina, Minky
Starters: Wang, Pettite, Clemens, Mussina
Relievers: Mo, Viz, Joba, Phil, Edwar, Farns, IPK, Britton/Henn

I think that last roster spot for another pitcher is going to be the hard decision. Personally, i think its going to be either Britton or Henn. Go with the lefty who cant get anyone out just to have a lefty? I hope not....go with britton

by dmgyanks on Sep 13, 2007 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
for replying when I said lets not worry about this until the Yanks have clinched.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 13, 2007 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem
i did it twice just for you

by dmgyanks on Sep 13, 2007 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto
We still The Tigers on our ass and The Sox in our way.
"Billy, you are hired." George.

by StrappedYankee on Sep 16, 2007 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You grammar
is nearly as awe inspiring as your capitalization.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 16, 2007 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Your
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 16, 2007 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
perfect.

I have no tlerance for tyops either.

The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Sep 17, 2007 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My typo was rather ironic
Admitted. However, strapped's assault on the English language is beyond comparison. You can actually hear English teachers crying as he types.
Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Sep 17, 2007 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i actually thought
your typo was on purpose
Well, baseball was my whole life. Nothing's ever been as fun as baseball. -Mickey Mantle

by NumberSeven on Sep 17, 2007 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it might be
extremely helpful to have both phil and IPK in the bullpen as long men. Do you really trust Mussina not to get bombed and for clemens not to get hurt?

I remember a few years ago when wells backed out, brown bombed, and vasquez didnt fair much better.

Other than pettite and wang, i dont trust anyone in this rotation. I do not have a problem going with clemens and mussina, as i think its the right decision if they perform down the stretch. If they get hurt or get lit up, kennedy and phil will be sooo valuable to have in the pen for a spot start or long relief

by dmgyanks on Sep 13, 2007 11:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats great
and all, but Wells wasn't ever on the team with Vazquez and Brown
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 13, 2007 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didnt mean the same year
wells in '03 and vasquez and brown in '04

two straight years where we could have used guys like phil and ipk

by dmgyanks on Sep 13, 2007 12:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup, this explains it
I remember a few years ago when wells backed out, brown bombed, and vasquez didnt fair much better
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 13, 2007 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahah
have you ever heard the expression
"arguing on the internet is like the special olympics, even if you win, youre still retarded"??

by dmgyanks on Sep 13, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just to
give you a heads up since you are new to this site, you get basically only 2 days to makes dumb comments.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Sep 13, 2007 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OH NO!
do i only have 1 day left?????????

by dmgyanks on Sep 13, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's it----times up
The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Sep 13, 2007 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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