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OK It looked intentional to me

In my previous diary I called for retaliation for the hit Dice-K laid on Arod.

Well Joba did not hit anyone.  Rocket only hit the runt second baseman, and it didn't look like it was intentional.

Joba, however, did look like he threw warning pitches. He did it twice so there was no mistake in recognition. So, Youk was given a gentle message.  Arod is our forth hitter.  Youk was hitting forth.  The right guy.  It was a time when the message could go without much risk to the sweep.

So, Red Sox, you can no longer hit Yankees with impunity.  Next time it may be worse.

I hope there is no suspension, but if there is we can handle it.  Appeal and delay it till after Seattle.  Then drop the appeal and serve it against weaker opponents. Be back for the trip to Boston.

Does it seem the Umps never protect the Yanks?

Geez, I like this kid.

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We don't need distractions.
I'm not sure what Joba was doing.  My take is that if he wanted to hit Youkilis, he would have.  Maybe for the first time this season, I agree with Joe.  We are closing out a sweep, why give the bad guys something to get fired up over.  Let them limp back to Boston licking their wounds...Now we give them a hole card that has revenge for a cause.  And you know it will come up in the media in two weeks when we go to Boston.  Who are reporters going to pester?  Joba. Neither he nor the team need distractions.

In fact, if Joba did it on his own, and was really trying to send a message, then he better get a message...make your points on the mound by getting the other guys out.  Period.  Down the road he could get into protecting our hitters and all the other stuff, but not with less than 15 innings under his belt.  

Oh those bases on balls. Can anyone here throw strikes???

by mickey07 on Aug 30, 2007 11:48 PM EDT   0 recs

Revenge? I really don't think that
the Red Sox need any incentive to throw at the Yankees. They have been doing it with impunity for years. Just ask ARod and Jeter.
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. --Billy Martin

by garp on Aug 31, 2007 12:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pretty weak
There's a big difference between drilling someone in the back or the thigh and head-hunting. What Chamberlain did is unsportsmanlike (and that's being generous) and dangerous.

Here's the discussion.

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by tommasse on Aug 31, 2007 10:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't get too
excited about this one either way. If it was unintentional, then the umps over-reacted. If it was intentional and Joba has that unerring command, then  he clearly placed the ball where Youks could easily get out of the way.

by chrisNYY on Aug 31, 2007 10:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Headhunting
If he was headhunting, he missed by a safe margin.  Throwing it as high as he did (+1 foot), he was as likely to hit his head as someone pitching for the batter's back (-1 foot).

by SP on Aug 31, 2007 11:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Checked out your post
Doesn't seem to be a lot of "discussion."

by chrisNYY on Aug 31, 2007 11:32 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It did not look like those pitches were going
to hit anyone in the head. It just proves that the Bosox are a bunch of whiny bitches.
Everything looks nicer when you win. The girls are prettier. The cigars taste better. The trees are greener. --Billy Martin

by garp on Aug 31, 2007 12:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My favorite is still
Manny vs Clemens in the 2003 ALCS. That pitch was closer to being a strike than hitting him.
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Aug 31, 2007 3:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Baseball Tonight
showed him wiping off his hands afterward and supported his explanation that the ball slipped.  Amazingly enough (I think they tend to be anti-Yankees) they sided with Joba/Yankees and from what they showed, it looks like they were right.  

Youkilis was right that Joba has great stuff and great command.  If he wanted to hit him, he would NOT have missed.  

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Aug 31, 2007 7:26 AM EDT   0 recs

He had good command
Those 2 pitches were in the exact same place.  They were too close to be just luck.

If he meant to hit him, he'd have hit him the first time.

If he meant to scare him, he did.

Nice touch, wiping his hand.

The Opera ain't over til the fat lady sings

by Cbeck3 on Aug 31, 2007 8:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Who cares?
The Sox have been hitting the Yanks non stop for the last 7 years.  Now that the Yanks do it, all the Sox fans, players and bitching.  They should deal with it, they started the whole mess.
Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Aug 31, 2007 8:48 AM EDT   0 recs

Don't you understan?
The Red Sox have to hit the Yankees. It is the only way a scrappy small market team like Boston can compete with the big money Yankees.
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by tiyuri on Aug 31, 2007 10:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Very True
but none of the Yankees have been hit the way Youk was hit by Proctor.  

Intentional or not, the head is the wrong area to mess around with.

by matthaggs on Sep 1, 2007 9:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Karim Garcia
Just sayin'
"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Sep 1, 2007 11:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I loved it
personally love the fact that he threw at him.  Maybe boston and the rest of the league will stop fucking around with arod and jeter.  Personally I hate youk and wanted a head shot.  Remember when Rocket hit Piazza, it was great stuff.  or maybe i'm just an asshole. Eithor way Joba is good and not to be messed with.
taking the east

by yankeechaser on Sep 1, 2007 5:23 PM EDT   0 recs

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