Gagne headed to Beantown

by anaconda on Jul 31, 2007 2:06 PM EDT in News

The Red Sox are on the verge of winning the Eric Gagne sweepstakes, pending his approval and a review of his medical records, according to major-league sources.

Gagne must waive his no-trade clause to Boston for the deal to be completed. It is possible the Red Sox will allow him to share the closer's role with Jonathan Papelbon.

The Rangers had discussed trading Gagne to the Mets, Yankees and Brewers. He could have been sent to each of those teams without his permission.

Gagne could reject the deal because of his desire to remain a closer with the Rangers rather than share the role with Papelbon or become his setup man.

The Red Sox also could attempt to persuade him to waive his no-trade protection by guaranteeing all or part of his remaining $3.65 million in potential bonuses for games finished.

Update [2007-7-31 16:11:12 by anaconda]:

Buster Olney says the deal is official.

Olney also added on the television side that the reason why Gagne isn’t coming to the Bronx is because Brian Cashman refused to part with Ian Kennedy or Melky Cabrera.

For those of you who wanted Cashman to hold on to the kids, it appears that you got your wish.

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Wow

They may have just traded for a ring. I hope they gave up a lot at least.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Jul 31, 2007 2:11 PM EDT 0 recs

see below.

f%ck.

by BobbyNYC on Jul 31, 2007 2:35 PM EDT 0 recs

Stick a fork ...

If this trade happens, we are done.

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Jul 31, 2007 2:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

Even if we got Gagne, the division was not happening. This makes Boston a lot better but it does keep Gagne from the Indians, so this could help in the wild card. I do think that this puts Boston squarely in front of the World Series favorites though.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Jul 31, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up 0 recs

I still put my money on DET

to go to the World Series.

by anaconda on Jul 31, 2007 2:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

Very possible

Dear God I hope so.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Jul 31, 2007 2:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

I still think

that the yanks are gonna take the wild card and then win it all

"Slump? I aint in no slump... I just aint hitting" -Yogi

by yanks are gonna win on Jul 31, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

You are freakin' delusional ...

If the Sux get Gagne, and none of their boppers get hurt, it's over for the Yankees this year. Subtracting Proctor (who admittedly has been overworked and is no doubt exhausted), for an enigma who has been bouncing around with a "franchise" tag hung around his neck for several years but can't seem to bust out makes no sense--especially considering there's no spot for him to get regular at-bats.

We lose the Gagne sweepstakes it's see ya' in '08. Here's to no Torre and no Cashman.

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Jul 31, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

This deal is not keeping them from the division

That was done a while ago. (thanks Cashman!). The Yanks can still win the wild card and then get their asses handed to them in the playoffs. I just hope it is Detroit or LA and not Boston.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Jul 31, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

No bridge ...

There's no bridge anymore.
Granted the one we had was creaky, but it was far better than what Farnsworth is going to give you; far better than what that 99mph base-on-ball specialist will give you; and better than Vizcaino who is going to get overused in the first week of this deal to the point of ineffectiveness.

You can't subtract a viable arm in an already shaky pen and expect things to get better. We are done unless Cashman legitimately upgrades the bullpen (and abusing Joba isn't the answer).

"Baseball is the background music of my life." -George Will

by Ronster22 on Jul 31, 2007 3:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

The Yanks weren't going to win....

the AL East anyways. They are going after the Wildcard and CLE is just waiting for the Yanks to make a run at them. Besides, the good thing is that CLE, DET, and MIN is going to beat up on each other.

by anaconda on Jul 31, 2007 3:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

Dotel to Braves is complete

"Slump? I aint in no slump... I just aint hitting" -Yogi

by yanks are gonna win on Jul 31, 2007 3:10 PM EDT 0 recs

I just saw

the Clemens retirement dropped call commercial. Frickin' hilarious.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jul 31, 2007 3:35 PM EDT 0 recs

Me too

that's the first time I'd ever seen it.

by anaconda on Jul 31, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

is it one

of thos cingular commercials? I haven't scene it yet, do you have a link?

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Jul 31, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

No link

I couldn't find it on YouTube.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jul 31, 2007 3:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor

It wasn't over then, and it ain't over yet for the Yankees.

Gagne to the Sox makes them a better team than they were yesterday, and they were better than the Yankees yesterday.

The Sox will probably win the division, but the Yankees still have a shot at the post season. And winning the AL East hasn't translated into a championship for six years.

Gagne going to Cleveland would have been worse for the Yankees then him going to Boston.

by collink on Jul 31, 2007 3:36 PM EDT 0 recs

No

Japan bombed Pearl Harbor

I didn't know a captain could be as bad as Varitek

by yankeechaser on Jul 31, 2007 6:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

That was a joke

by anaconda on Jul 31, 2007 6:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

Uh

You've never seen the greatest comedy in the history of film?

River Ave. Blues
Yanks and prospects

by PinstripePowerhouse on Jul 31, 2007 6:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

There's........

nothing like 1980s pop culture references in a PA post.

by anaconda on Jul 31, 2007 6:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

know I feel old

I hate it when Belushi's jokes go over someone's head. Or worse when they think I'm talking about Jim.

by collink on Jul 31, 2007 6:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'll always remember....

that Belushi died on my 8th birthday -- back on 3/05/82.

Although it may have been a bit inappropriate for a youngster, I had already seen Animal House by then.

by anaconda on Jul 31, 2007 7:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

I remember

delivering the newspaper with the story on the front page

by collink on Jul 31, 2007 7:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Gagne can still block the trade, right?

Who says he even wants to go there?

by docgonzo on Jul 31, 2007 3:41 PM EDT 0 recs

Correct

the trade isn't in the books yet, Gagne has a NTC and can use it

"Slump? I aint in no slump... I just aint hitting" -Yogi

by yanks are gonna win on Jul 31, 2007 3:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

When was the last time

a player invoked his no-trade? Randy to the Dodgers in 2004?

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jul 31, 2007 3:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

Gammons

This is the sort of shit I can't stand: "[Gagne]'s a Montreal kid, so he understands the whole Northeast thing".
Now I'm not saying that Gagne wasn't going to be able to handle the media attention, but please don't suggest that because Gagne was raised in Montreal he's prepared to face the Boston media.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jul 31, 2007 3:48 PM EDT 0 recs

It's official

according to Yahoo.

NEW YORK - The Boston Red Sox traded left-hander Kason Gabbard, minor-league outfielder David Murphy and another prospect to the Texas Rangers in exchange for right-hander Eric Gagne, according to multiple sources.

Meantime, the Red Sox and Gagne continue to talk about Gagne's role and, if Gagne is going to spend most of his time in Boston as a setup man. Gagne was due about $4 million in incentives based on games finished. That would be altered, based on appearances.

Jonathan Papelbon is expected to continue as the closer, though Gagne will fill in occasionally.

by docgonzo on Jul 31, 2007 3:50 PM EDT 0 recs

Fine By Me.

Gabbard has been great this year. Upon reflection.. we made the right move not to give away the farm.

by BobbyNYC on Jul 31, 2007 4:09 PM EDT 0 recs

Cashman's last hurrah, finally.

Cashman just doesn't get it. Sometimes you have to do the pre-emptive strike thing and take Gagne not only to help your team but to keep him away from your arch rival. Cashman stood fast and did not trade any of the young studs. BUT...Gagne is a gold standard reliever who can close and would also help set up Mo. Along side the now revived Vizcaino, he would be huge. So now we gotta go against him in the worst uniform of all. This was a case where Cashman should have dealt one of the kids (lots of potential, but unproven) for a known commodity.

Since Torre burned out Proctor last year, and was ineffective this year, we send him packing for a career 260 utility infielder. Just when I thought he could not do worse. So how are we going to get Betemit enough ABs, when we cannot get ABs for Cairo and our guys coming up from the minors. Joe doesn't trust young players, so how can he help? If you are at Scranton or Trenton or anywhere else in the system, what message does this send?

Oh, and best of all, we still have Farce-worth(less)

Nice work Cashman.

When asked what he thought of Canseco being the first to do 40/40, Mickey Mantle replied "Hell if I knew that y'all would make such a fuss, I'd 'a done it!"

by mickey07 on Jul 31, 2007 4:35 PM EDT 0 recs

So...

...who would you trade.. Joba, Kennedy or Hughes? Would one of them been enough? It seems as though we know what we've got in these guys, plus they don't come with big contracts. The Yanks can take Boston in any series so long as they're swinging the bats right. Sometimes the best move is no move. I agree it sucks we couldn't dump Farnsworthless.

by BobbyNYC on Jul 31, 2007 4:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

Seriously,

another dumb post from a someone that has no idea what went on (none of us do!). If they only wanted Joba, Hughes, etc, the Yanks absolutely made the right call.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Jul 31, 2007 4:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

The paper..

..this morning says the Rangers wanted either Kennedy or Melky. I never claimed to have any special insight.. but who else would they be asking for.... Arod?? C'mon dude.. don't be such an ass. I agree they made the right call.

by BobbyNYC on Aug 1, 2007 9:09 AM EDT up 0 recs

I was

agreeing with you, I was refering to the mickey07 post.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Aug 1, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

Texas

got no major leaguers worth a damn...They wanted Melky? Boston wins again...
With no pitchers and Betemeat...we're done...

by John Amato on Jul 31, 2007 4:41 PM EDT 0 recs

Kudo to Theo Epstein

This proves that Theo knows what he is doing while B. Cash doesn't. It is good to know that NY didn't trade their frontline young studs Hughes, Joba and Ian, but was not able to get rid of Farnsworth, Abreau. Or get a dependable set up guy. It looks like NY needs to concentrate on getting a wild card ticket now.

by yankeesintexas on Jul 31, 2007 4:50 PM EDT 0 recs

How do

you know what Cashman offered and what Daniels wanted from the Yankees? If they wouldn't take Horne, Clippard, Chase Wright, who else should have the Yanks offered? And what team in their right mind would trade for overpaid Farnsuck and Abreu?

I am not a Cashman lover, but I'm not a hater of his also. What else was he supposed to do in these situations?

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Jul 31, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

Agree

I am not a big Cashman fan but we've pounded him for giving away the farm to bring in big guns. If he's just building the team this year, then let's protect our kids. And a lot of our signings in past years signaled the end to the BoSox and yet they weren't quite done for. And you never know who gets hot in Sept and October. It's all a crap shoot sometimes. St. Louis anyone?

"The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who are undecided." -Casey Stengel

by bxgrl1 on Jul 31, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

No

Theo is what Cashman is accused of being- an idiot with a checkbook.

Look at Theo's moves:
Yes, Ortiz is great, but no one saw that coming.
Under Theo there's been a different shortstop every year, two of whom have been signed to big free agent deals (Renteria and Lugo). Lugo looks like he could find himself in a new uniform come December; meanwhile, Hanley Ramirez is an All Star caliber shortstop for the Marlins.
Coco Crisp has been an uneven player.
JD Drew?
The Dice-K bid for 20 million more than the next offer.
And Theo has signed off on putting Papelbon in the pen instead of the rotation, which Cash has refused to do with Joba.

Theo made a decent trade today, but it was money and the Yankees unwillingness to sacrafice too much that let him do it. I compare it to the Schilling trade. Arizona said "Screw the Yankees" and asked for Nick Johnson and Alfonso Soriano, then traded Schilling to the Red Sox for Casey Fossum and a bag of peanuts.

Life can be hard with the bullseye on your back, but that's what Yankees live with.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jul 31, 2007 5:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Very

well said.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Jul 31, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

Boston lucks out again

This reminds me a ton of the Schilling deal. Some other team holds out for the Yanks' farm, then caves and takes crapola from Boston. WTF?

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Jul 31, 2007 5:22 PM EDT 0 recs

i never

got over how much bull shit that was. They wanted Sori and Johnson, but ended up taking Lyon and Fossum. Please.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Jul 31, 2007 5:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's

exactly what I thought.

"Have faith in the Yankees, my son. Think of the great DiMaggio."

by jscape2000 on Jul 31, 2007 5:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Boston

I guess it helps them, but they were already pretty impossible to beat from the 8th inning on. Now I guess they use Hideki in the 7th if needed?

The trick to beating them is to hit the starters, which is something the Yanks have done every game against them this year, with the exception of Tavarez for some stupid reason.

Anyway, it's not a problem to face until the ALCS. A lot of things could happen between now and then.

by matthaggs on Jul 31, 2007 5:33 PM EDT 0 recs

I

think we would take boston in the playoff's they only will have one lefty starter. I guess well see when we play them

I didn't know a captain could be as bad as Varitek

by yankeechaser on Jul 31, 2007 10:51 PM EDT 0 recs

Daniels

wanted Melky and IPK for Gagne reported in the Daily News today. Yanks made the right move.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Aug 1, 2007 7:12 AM EDT 0 recs

That is borderline criminal

to require that package from the Yanks and then take that pile of shit from Theo. It is a shame that the commissioner can't discipline Daniels in some way.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Aug 1, 2007 7:39 AM EDT up 0 recs

I really

don't get how they can get away with stuff like that. Espicially after the Schilling situation.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Aug 1, 2007 8:44 AM EDT up 0 recs

I can't explain it

but I have a hunch it is Cairomack's fault.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Aug 1, 2007 8:48 AM EDT up 0 recs

After

the Yanks got WB yesterday, it hopefully looks like the days of Cairomack will be over.

Pride, Power, Cocktease

by ReLaunch on Aug 1, 2007 8:56 AM EDT up 0 recs

Don't tease me

I will believe it when I see it. Sadly, even if they release him this year, I am sure that Cashman will sign him to be a bench player another six times over the next 8 years.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Aug 1, 2007 9:03 AM EDT up 0 recs

Buster Olney concurs

From today's blog:

After the Yankees were asked to surrender super prospect Ian Kennedy or Melky Cabrera, they were surprised by that Texas made what New York perceived to be a much thinner deal of Kason Gabbard, David Murphy and Engel Beltre. They were not alone: Heard from about five or six executives with other teams who believe that the Boston deal lacked a solid anchor prospect: Gabbard has pitched well in the last month but is not highly regarded because of his lack of pure stuff, Murphy is thought to be an extra outfielder, and Beltre is years away from playing in the big leagues.

The general view of execs with other teams is that Texas did very well in the Teixeira deal, but might have missed on the Gagne trade. We'll see how Gabbard does.

Fear the Evil Empire

by pfistyunc on Aug 1, 2007 10:12 AM EDT up 0 recs