This is my first post on this board in a long time.  I have been a fan for decades now.  One thing I have grown to detest is the usage and matchups of the Bullpen.  The bullpen this year has blown 8 games or so.  I understand we had 3/4 of our staff on the dl.  But this extends beyond this year and over the entire Torre tenior.  We had great bullpens in the 90s so even though I didn't like the usage it worked well. But we do not have the horses in that area anymore.  I am sick and tired of pitch counts and Torres matchups.  If the starters have thrown 5 hit 1 run ball after 7...LEAVE HIM IN THE F@#$%^ GAME regardless of pitch count.  Ask the pitcher how he feels.  U don't know what the guy in the pen has(especially these clowns) but u sure know what the guy has that has been on the mound.  Its a stupid methodology and it will cost Torre his job after this year.  This method has cost the yanks at least 6 games with his bullpen use.  He looks clueless in his overmanaging style with that whatever lousy explanations after the game. I am also tired that the team never retaliates or backs hitters off the plate.  Especially Ortiz.  But that for another day.

I respect Joe but If he goes I want Girardi and Not Mattingly for the managers job.  Giradi has that passion for the game.  Mattinly looks like a younger Torre. I think New York needs a new approach.