YANKS ASK WANG TO TAME THE BOSOX
Now, as the Yankees move back across town to more familiar territory, they welcome in a most familiar opponent -- the Red Sox, who took two of three games from New York in a Massachusetts setting last month.
"It's going to be important games over there," said Yankees right fielder Bobby Abreu, who went 2-for-4 with two walks in the final game of the Mets series, leading Yankees manager Joe Torre to proclaim that Abreu is "back."
"We're just going to try to win as many games as we can win," Abreu said. "They've played very good right now, so it'll be interesting. It's going to be a good series."
The Yankees' hopes of at least returning the favor begin on Monday behind the efforts of right-hander Chien-Ming Wang, a 19-game winner last season who kicks off yet another vital series for the Yankees.
"Very important," Wang said of the start. "Maybe it can help the team feel better."
With Andy Pettitte and Mike Mussina also scheduled to see Boston, this will mark just the second time in this injury-ravaged Yankees series that they've been able to call upon their top three starting pitchers.
But it's better late than never for the Yankees, who would prefer to look at their circumstances as good timing -- after all, who better to head out in hopes of trimming their 10 1/2-game American League East deficit to the runaway Red Sox?
"We know they're tough and they're playing well," Yankees captain Derek Jeter said. "We have to go right back out there [on Monday]. Hopefully, it'll be a good game."
Amen.
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Yankees Played Billy Ball!!!
by StrappedYankee on May 21, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A Standard way to combat a knucleball.
Did you see Damon's steal? It was a knuckler that took a long time to get home. It was low inside to a right hand hitter, a difficult pitch to throw from. It was still bang bang.
The fact that you can run on a knuckleball does not mean you should be running all over the place.
by Cbeck3 on May 21, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of Course
by StrappedYankee on May 22, 2007 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One piece of advice
by pfistyunc on May 22, 2007 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm
by StrappedYankee on May 22, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your ability to miss the point
by pfistyunc on May 22, 2007 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An elaboration, if I may
While Michael Kay was right in this instance, it comes with two caveats. First is that Michael Kay is often wrong, so he is not the most credible source of baseball analysis. Second is that being that aggressive doesn't work as well against a non-knuckleballer. If the ball is floating in at 60 mph, there is no reason not to try and swipe bags with your best base stealers. This does not mean, however, that it will work all of the time.
Ergo, you (strappedyankee) have put together a weak argument.
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 22, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Guess WE are all wrong.
Johnny Damon had the kind of game that had, so far this season, been mostly missing from his inventory.
Damon went 3-for-4, drew a walk and stole two bases in a 6-2 Yanke"I thought
Johnny Damon had a great game with his bat and with his body," Joe Torre said. "He had a lot of life in his game."
by StrappedYankee on May 22, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear God, I hope we are done
by pfistyunc on May 23, 2007 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The issue
You're picking a single game (and one with very unusual factors- knuckleballer plus weak armed catcher) and trying to build an entire strategy out of it.
Ditto pointing to one game when Damon goes 3-4 as proof that he's not old or slowing down.
It makes no difference whom you cite; if you don't acknowledge the variables involved in a small sample size, there's little else we can talk about.
by jscape2000 on May 23, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean that
by StrappedYankee on May 23, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most respecfully
by StrappedYankee on May 23, 2007 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Before the homerun"
by Willton on May 24, 2007 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Before the homerun"
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont you agree
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please go away
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by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think they should run intelligently
You want to know who the best basestealer is? It's not the one who steals the most; it's the one who gets caught the least.
Joe Sheehan elaborates on the value of the stolen base much more here:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2607
by Willton on May 24, 2007 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat me to it
And seriously, the words you used are way too big for his comprehension. Oops, used another one there. Comprehension. It means ability to understand.
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems to me you are all afraid of
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seems to me
Once again, shut up.
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by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha!
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Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work
by jscape2000 on May 24, 2007 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
Jeter's been bad so far this year with steals. He's already been caught as many times as he was all of last year. He has four stolen bases, at least one of which is of third base (which actually plays into strapped's theory of being aggressive, but it's not based on the same concept of stealing second).
Then you have A-Rod, who rarely has steal opportunities (though he's been good when given those opportunities). Abreu hasn't been on base nearly enough to steal (hey, when he gets on, you don't wanna waste that rare opportunity). Melky is good, but as with Abreu, he's not on base enough.
No one else has the ability to consistently swipe bags.
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
by StrappedYankee on May 25, 2007 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forget playoffs
by StrappedYankee on May 25, 2007 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A good hitting team
Want to know what team holds the AL record for team LOB? The 1941 St. Louis Browns, with 1,334 runners. They finished 3rd in the AL in runs scored.
In the NL? The 1976 Cincinatti Reds, with 1328. Yep, you guessed it, the WS champion Cincinatti Reds, also known as the Big Red Machine. For someone who's been a fan of baseball since the mid-70's, that should not surprise you.
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/left_on_base_records.shtml
by Willton on May 24, 2007 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have a point
by StrappedYankee on May 25, 2007 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hands down the worst
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You
by StrappedYankee on May 25, 2007 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you kindly Sir
by StrappedYankee on May 23, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hit the
by ReLaunch on May 24, 2007 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are free to speak
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your point is completely lost
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be sure to include some ketchup packets
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he write
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love it
Plus, they're a victim of day to day observation. For instance, it looked like Ty Clippard threw a lot of strikes on Sunday, particularly first-pitch strikes. So a baseball player might (and probably would) tell you that he threw a lot of first pitch strikes, which helped.
In reality, though, he threw 48% first pitch strikes and just 57% overall.
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Even the Boss doesnot have enough money to save them. Wake up and see the light.
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Better
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Then
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Risk/Reward
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You leave yourself so open
The Yankees game is to work into hitters counts. They take a lot of pitches. Over the last two weeks, pitchers have been throwing more first-pitch strikes. Not only does this foil the team's plan at the dish, but it foils them on the basepaths, since you really don't want to be stealing when the pitcher is ahead (as you said yourself).
To me, and most reasonable people, if that truly is the problem (that last paragraph was anecdotal, and I'm not sifting through game logs right now), the solution would be to look for first pitch strikes and swing, rather than steal a base.
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no execution
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem?
by Willton on May 24, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game is called b a s e b a l l
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see
Pride, Power, Pinstrippes
and Passion.
Fear Strikes Out!
by StrappedYankee on May 24, 2007 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is fear in you
Got any more gems for us, Darth Sidious?
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am afraid too
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes it was
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
However, all of this is moot
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I forgot
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not since 2004
by Willton on May 24, 2007 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How has it not worked?
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by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking about the WS winners
by Willton on May 24, 2007 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, gotcha
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not
by StrappedYankee on May 25, 2007 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone follow me
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Second
Yanks and prospects
by PinstripePowerhouse on May 24, 2007 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will take self control
by pfistyunc on May 24, 2007 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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